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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Abortion Ban Backlash Is Starting to Freak Out Republicans
The 11-point loss of the Republican-aligned candidate in Wisconsins Supreme Court election on Tuesday has influential conservatives rethinking this strategy. Republicans had better get their abortion position straight, and more in line with where voters are, or they will face another disappointment in 2024, said a Wall Street Journal editorial.
Ann Coulter tweeted, The demand for anti-abortion legislation just cost Republicans another crucial race, and added, Please stop pushing strict limits on abortion, or there will be no Republicans left. Jon Schweppe, policy director of the socially conservative American Principles Project, lamented, We are getting killed by indie voters who think we support full bans with no exceptions.
But having made the criminalization of abortion a central axis of their political project for decades, Republicans have no obvious way out of their electoral predicament. A decisive majority of Americans 64 percent, according to a recent Public Religion Research Institute survey believe that abortion should be legal in most cases. A decisive majority of Republicans 63 percent, according to the same survey believe that it should not. When abortion bans were merely theoretical, anti-abortion passion was often a boon to Republicans, powering the grass-roots organizing of the religious right. Now that the end of Roe has awakened a previously complacent pro-choice majority, anti-abortion passion has become a liability, but the Republican Party cant jettison it without tearing itself apart.
The reason voters think Republicans support full abortion bans, as Schweppe wrote, is that many of them do.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/07/opinion/abortion-rights-wisconsin-elections-republicans.html
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)the GQP playbook with impunity in all the red states, regardless of public opinion.
Irish_Dem
(47,423 posts)They only need enough votes to cover their cheating.
They want to turn this country into white male christian minority rule.
Nothing will stop them until they are stopped.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)Just question to you, Do you think Putin is behind with what's going on in the US? Putin would be happy to divide the US?
Irish_Dem
(47,423 posts)Putin was furious at the collapse of the USSR and blamed the US.
He vowed revenge. He sucked out all of the money from the Russian economy and
became the richest man in the world. Spending his fortune on installing his puppets
throughout Europe and the US.
His goal is to damage western democracies via spreading chaos, division, hatred, revenge,
violence. He funds terrorist groups, including the NRA.
He wants to break up the US.
The GOP agrees with Putin, they spout his talking points every day and in every way.
They want what Putin has, total permanent power and access to all national assets.
The GOP follows the KGB handbook to the letter. Create fear, terror to make a docile population.
Demonize various groups like women, POC, LGBT, etc to create hatred and division.
We know Trump was installed by Putin, Members of Congress have opening supported Putin.
They are on Putin's payroll.
Putin has been so successful weakening the US he was emboldened to invade Ukraine.
China has also aligned with Russia, sharing the same dream of shifting world power.
Their goal is to make autocracies, fascist governments the dominant form of government on the planet.
And to control the world's wealth.
Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)Coventina
(27,172 posts)Um....rightly so, because that's exactly what you do support!!
underpants
(182,883 posts)They are a force the modern system isnt prepared for.
calimary
(81,500 posts)And I aint talkin right wing.
Thats EXACTLY what they want, hope for, and dream about. Whats next? Womens right to vote?
This is WAR.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)will be next.................they want chaos, they will get it.
This is minority rule...........we will not stand for this. I am so damn angry. They want to burn everything down.
calimary
(81,500 posts)How far back ARE they going to try to roll back the clock?
Ohio Joe
(21,761 posts)BOSSHOG
(37,108 posts)It does not make one damn, full, partial, three-eighths. A woman seeking medical health care via abortion is none of you ghouls business. But if religious zealots insist then lets do away with the separation of church and state. Turn loose the assessors and we will quickly discover what churchs value.
Equal parts ignorance and hate gets ya a Republican.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(8,073 posts)you do support bans with no exceptions.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,595 posts)The truth hurts.
calimary
(81,500 posts)Last edited Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:01 PM - Edit history (1)
Theyre just working toward that. But thats the ultimate goal: To DO AWAY WITH womens rights. And take OUR control of OUR bodies and OUR lives away from us.
Theyll have their fun now. But theyll PAY in 2024. I bet we keep the White House, get the House back, and expand our lead in the Senate.
I also bet they wont learn a single thing from that, either. They refuse to accept that theyre swimming against a mighty tide. And they havent even considered whats likely to be a tsunami of younger voters who are wide awake now.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(8,073 posts)Bev54
(10,072 posts)antics and going to the extreme, not cutting back. They are so bloody nefarious they cannot see beyond their own arrogance.
flashman13
(677 posts)Hubris is a central character weakness in almost all tragedies. And we all know that tragedies do not end well for those that think they are masters of the universe. Payback is hell.
underpants
(182,883 posts)This and guns are perfect for Republicans. It stems from Atwaters God Guns and Gays. With one mention of each Republicans have massive swaths of voters in their pocket. Never have to spend another resource for their vote.
What happened is is that the activists got involved in all levels, then they moved up. Requirements for access rights to a local hospital including specific distance, wild unaffordable equipment requirements, and even zoning. They got creative. They got money and moved up. Theres always money in both guns and life.
The top lost control and it soon engulfed them.
Side note - the origins of pro-life come from Paul Weyrich tapping into the evangelicals to protect racist colleges tax exempt status. Bob Jones U specifically.
The Real Origins of the Religious Right
Theyll tell you it was abortion. Sorry, the historical records clear: It was segregation.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/religious-right-real-origins-107133
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,430 posts)underpants
(182,883 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,430 posts)Sky Jewels
(7,140 posts)will happily go along with the GOP's Handmaid's Tale agenda.
calimary
(81,500 posts)Just how far up inside our bodies does the GOP want to go? And for what purpose?
NowISeetheLight
(3,943 posts)Well . I seem to recall a lot of RepubQcan fascists claiming no exemptions.
calimary
(81,500 posts)I remember hearing some knuckle-dragger calling into the local talk radio station I used to listen to, who said in all seriousness that this country started going downhill when women got the right to vote.
Seriously. No lie. No exaggeration, either. I was driving and I remember gazing at my car radio, mouth agape, struggling to believe Id just heard what I heard. Well, dude, whoever you are, wherever you are, you just fucked over half the population of America. Actually, by now, its slightly MORE than half.
The Woman as Property crowd has a lot to celebrate today.
ShazzieB
(16,529 posts)And even when they deign to write any kind of exemptions into their stupid laws, they make sure to word them so vaguely that doctors can't figure out what's allowed and what isn't, AND they make the penalties for making a mistake so steep that everyone's afraid to chance it. The result is a de facto complete ban on abortion.
It's like they're playing a sneaky little game of "Watch us ban abortion completely without saying we're banning abortion completely!"
kimbutgar
(21,195 posts)Women are outraged and repukes are going to pay in 2024.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)they will pay..........tic tock....tic tock
Marius25
(3,213 posts)Most white women voted for this.
So I wouldn't count on women as a whole stopping Republicans.
kimbutgar
(21,195 posts)Reality has set in to what consequences their daughters, female relatives and friends might face.
Because you know birth control is next and I bet TFG women supporters also like sex without worrying about getting pregnant.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)They are pro-forced life followed by pro-snuff life.
Marius25
(3,213 posts)If they were so alarmed by the backlash, they wouldn't keep passing more and more strict abortion bans.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)They don't. The Republican have the power in those sates, they own the judges and the votes. What are those people going to do who are against their draconian edicts? Protest? Yeah, that will work, not.
Renew Deal
(81,873 posts)That is a common position in the republican party.
dalton99a
(81,590 posts)By all means necessary that are not expressly prohibited by current law
edisdead
(1,956 posts)Give women their guaranteed rights to bodily autonomy and the fuck right off forevermore.
These damned neanderthals are threatening a hell of a lot more than women's healthcare rights. They want to put women under their thumbs and force them out of their careers and back into the kitchen.