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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 05:09 AM Apr 2023

I just woke up to a BBC episode of "Guns In America" where they...

interviewed kids who survived school shootings, or were otherwise affected.

I remember the "duck and cover" silliness of the 50s and our attitudes back then, but I can't imagine what it's doing to kids today. There is no comparison between the geopolitical fantasies of nuclear war with the Soviets and actually seeing dead kids around you, and with politicians just waving it away.

It wasn't easy, but we grew out of the Cold War idiocy and yet here we are again.

A warlord in Russia, but now surround by dead kids solely our own fault

How are our kids today going to grow out of this?

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callous taoboy

(4,798 posts)
1. We had a lockdown at the school where I teach last week.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 05:18 AM
Apr 2023

There was a suspicious individual in the area and a false report that the individual was in a backyard near the school with a gun. We didn’t have these details at the time, but everyone was a bit tense since we knew this was not a drill. One second grade teacher said some of her kids were crying, and one her boys was very fearful that his sister may already be dead. This is beyond fucked up.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
7. The World is horrified. The Gun is America. And a trillion dollar a year Gun budget, to
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:22 AM
Apr 2023

point at the same World.

America needs to look in the mirror and see what the World sees, cause one nation is not the planet. Lots of people not American, different opinions…just as good opinions, even without all the guns and gun spending.

wnylib

(26,467 posts)
3. The duck and cover drills in the 50s
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 06:58 AM
Apr 2023

did not scare me because a bomb attack wasn't real to me. By the time that I was in junior high in the 60s, we no longer did those drills, which were futile in the case of a nuclear bomb anyway.

But, hiding behind a locked door and hearing gun shots and the screams of people you know, or being in the room while your teacher and classmates are getting shot and dying, is very real. PTSD for a lifetime.

The fascist party is traumatizing our children. They are child abusers.



wnylib

(26,467 posts)
9. There have been many calls for the families of
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:45 AM
Apr 2023

murdered children to release photos in orders to show the reality of assault rifles on children's bodies. But I can understand the reluctance of family to do that.

Instead, a group of screenwriters, producers, and directors could do a very realistic movie based on real life accounts of school massacres. Start with parents sending the kids off in the morning and follow it through from several perspectives - parents, responders, teachers and children inside the school taking shelter and protecting each other. Show details without holding back - initial shock inside the school as they realize what's happening and follow their lockdown drill. Hiding, fear, silence, trembling. Students inside a room where the shooter begins the attack. Show the kids' bodies bouncing around on impact, the decapitation, the blood, and the horror on survivors' faces as they see their teacher and classmates gunned down.

Show the classroom scene as it appears later to responders when they enter. Show the parents going about business as usual until the news of the attack goes public. Show them racing to the school and trying to break through barriers to rescue their children.

Let people see the horrorr and gore from all perspectives and publicize that the scenes are realistic, based on actual incidents.



 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
10. Mass shooting high budget movie...it's gruesome to consider, but may open all
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 11:52 AM
Apr 2023

these closed Gunner hearts and minds…not to mention the media and the public.

bucolic_frolic

(55,840 posts)
4. Guns were good when citizens defended the country on the frontier and shores if need be
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 07:33 AM
Apr 2023

Those days are long gone. Now there is far less patriotism. Guns are for getting what you want, by force or control, unless you're a hunter. The world hasn't been this psychologically divided since The Thirty Years' War. Geographic boundaries mean little. It's all about what's going on in the heads of the oppressors.

mopinko

(73,943 posts)
5. i think us boomer grew up knowing we might not live longer than our parents.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 07:38 AM
Apr 2023

but we never thought our parents would have to bury us. i think that knowledge, plus the fact that we were loved as hard as any generation, and as gently, ty dr spock, led to- hell no, i wont go.

between the parents, the teachers, and the kids, i rly think the constant threat of death has shifted us into a defensive place where we make a lllllottttt of bad decisions on every level.

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