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Statement of Attorney General Garland on abortion medication rulings (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 OP
That Texas "judge" should be joshdawg Apr 2023 #1
This judge is a hypocrite. no_hypocrisy Apr 2023 #2
Off topic maxrandb Apr 2023 #3
in all fairness NJCher Apr 2023 #4
and I might add NJCher Apr 2023 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #29
Sometimes you have to shame people COL Mustard Apr 2023 #16
Here's an idea StoolPigeon Apr 2023 #8
Good idea Farmer-Rick Apr 2023 #20
Weak. Garland should have echoed what Senator Wyden said Tarc Apr 2023 #6
That federal judge will be partying with Clarence on some yacht this summer yaesu Apr 2023 #9
We know this strengthens his position COL Mustard Apr 2023 #19
Careful! The DU Garland Protection Squad will be after you! (nt) Paladin Apr 2023 #10
Or, as I like to call us, wnylib Apr 2023 #14
What a brilliant perspective. wnylib Apr 2023 #11
I'd like to see him ignored, too NJCher Apr 2023 #13
That certainly feels good, but it's also a dangerous road to go down. paleotn Apr 2023 #17
Thanks for the clarity. ancianita Apr 2023 #27
precisely. and thank you. stopdiggin Apr 2023 #30
I don't know, the death of healthcare and control for women in the United States Hope22 Apr 2023 #26
Agree. ancianita Apr 2023 #28
Eat their sexist elephant...nicely put. Hope22 Apr 2023 #32
lol it's an old saying I came across ancianita Apr 2023 #34
Oh claudette Apr 2023 #7
A judge can't just ban an FDA-approved medication! What's next, banning insulin?! yardwork Apr 2023 #12
Goddamn lawless judge belongs in a revival tent not in any public office dalton99a Apr 2023 #15
Alliance for Hypocritical Medicine peppertree Apr 2023 #18
Weak tea! onecaliberal Apr 2023 #21
They could do this with any medication or vaccine. That is why this needs to be reversed as JohnSJ Apr 2023 #22
This is how fascists destroy democracy Mysterian Apr 2023 #23
An equal problem is these drugs have important uses other than just pregnancy termination. paleotn Apr 2023 #24
Yes, elections have consequences....vigilance is need to counter these clowns. Historic NY Apr 2023 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #31
We need a female judge to ban viagra, cialiis and the other boner drugs. lindysalsagal Apr 2023 #33
A sternly worded letter, that will teach them. nt Hotler Apr 2023 #35

no_hypocrisy

(54,881 posts)
2. This judge is a hypocrite.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 07:48 AM
Apr 2023

This ruling implies that the medication isn't "safe" for a zygote/embryo, not the host mother.

maxrandb

(17,417 posts)
3. Off topic
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 07:56 AM
Apr 2023

But there was a thread on DU saying we shouldn't criticize folks that didn't, or don't vote.

NJCher

(43,115 posts)
4. in all fairness
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 08:32 AM
Apr 2023

I don't think that's what the poster was saying. The question in that post was whether criticizing non voters does any good.

The poster seemed to think such posts were preaching to the choir.

This would be an ideal time to put up a poll asking how many are registered voters and who vote.

Should break down by primaries and general election.

Won't be scientific but it's better than nothing.

---------------

This is OT, too, but since the topic of "what good does it do?" has been brought up, ever since trump has been indicted, I've noticed the big-time bellyachers have been rather quiet. My question would be what good does it do to come on this board and predict all their gloom and doom?

Some people seem to think it's healthy to vent, but studies in psychology suggest otherwise.

However, it is a fact that emotions are contagious and when people come on here and talk about how depressed they are over republican crap, it only serves to affect the emotions of others. They are not contributing to the overall good. Instead they are negatively affecting it.

Response to NJCher (Reply #5)

COL Mustard

(8,196 posts)
16. Sometimes you have to shame people
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:31 AM
Apr 2023

I’m all for shaming non-voters. If people can’t be bothered to vote, they deserve to be ashamed. Our democracy depends on them, and they’ve let us down.

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
6. Weak. Garland should have echoed what Senator Wyden said
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 08:47 AM
Apr 2023

Which was basically "ignore this asshat".

There is no legal basis for the judiciary to reach in and undo a decades-old medical approval by the FDA. Ignore it, call their bluff and let the Texan rednecks try to do something.

yaesu

(9,299 posts)
9. That federal judge will be partying with Clarence on some yacht this summer
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 08:56 AM
Apr 2023

It's time for our Federal Government to control these fascists with every means possible otherwise this christofascist Nazi behavior will just get worse

COL Mustard

(8,196 posts)
19. We know this strengthens his position
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:34 AM
Apr 2023

For a Supreme Court nomination the next time there’s a Republican president. He seems like he would make a great 🤡.

wnylib

(25,916 posts)
11. What a brilliant perspective.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:06 AM
Apr 2023

Won't it be hard to ignore when pharmacies no longer carry the med because they feel obligated to follow the ruling and fear legal and financial consequences of continuing to carry and sell it?

NJCher

(43,115 posts)
13. I'd like to see him ignored, too
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:16 AM
Apr 2023

but I think there will be such confusion that it might not do any good.

paleotn

(22,182 posts)
17. That certainly feels good, but it's also a dangerous road to go down.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:34 AM
Apr 2023

I've gotten pissed and advocated the same thing, but on second thought, do we really want to short circuit rule of law? The ruling will certainly die on appeal, so maybe let the system work instead? Frustrating as it is at times. Otherwise we open a whole can of worms with Repuke administrations ignoring the courts and rule of law means less and less. That's not a place I want to live in.

stopdiggin

(15,422 posts)
30. precisely. and thank you.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 10:42 AM
Apr 2023

rule of law is rather important. Breaking said laws should not be done without serious consideration. And - when protesting or circumventing unjust or bad law .... Protesters must accept that there are possible (and quite legal) punishments in store. And 'systems' must be aware that there are consequences to bad law - and laws routinely flouted.

Hope22

(4,723 posts)
26. I don't know, the death of healthcare and control for women in the United States
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:47 AM
Apr 2023

Is one of a thousand knife strikes. Each measure to counteract that should be a calculated one. I’m not sure ignoring asshats is wise. From my perspective a silent response is permission with these dangerous fools.

ancianita

(43,303 posts)
28. Agree.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 10:20 AM
Apr 2023

I'm all over the place on strategy. Our silence is partly what got them to this point.

Now rethugs are fighting in court to make it clear that pro-choice Americans are going to have to eat their sexist elephant one bite at a time.

Hoping the Garland response is also calculated to stop all this agency control through courts down the road.

Hope22

(4,723 posts)
32. Eat their sexist elephant...nicely put.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 10:48 AM
Apr 2023

Our conversation at brunch today. The only absolute action to avoid being caught in a life threatening pregnancy in this country is to avoid sex with sperm carriers and if threatened with rape, be prepared to fight for your life. I can’t believe this is what my country has become. My heart goes out to the young women here. I feel for everyone but especially those carrying viable eggs.

ancianita

(43,303 posts)
34. lol it's an old saying I came across
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 11:10 AM
Apr 2023

This situation you so precisely describe is exactly why Dobbs and subsequent state laws so horribly nullify the freedoms of "life and liberty" for 51% of us.

That we'll have to, state by state, collect data on the loss, harm, and damage done to us,
then go through years of court motions, rulings, and appeals, is the erection and core of the christofascist battlements surrounding us.

That men choose to define the "rights" of the unborn as greater than those already alive and voting -- females and their families -- is a patriarchal evil. Beyond taxation without representation.

This is the rule of men takeover of rule of law.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
22. They could do this with any medication or vaccine. That is why this needs to be reversed as
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:37 AM
Apr 2023

quickly as possible, and this judge needs to be publicly humiliated, like judge canon was in trying to protect trump for no other reason then political ideology


Mysterian

(6,459 posts)
23. This is how fascists destroy democracy
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:40 AM
Apr 2023

Install their lackeys everywhere to corrupt the government entirely.

paleotn

(22,182 posts)
24. An equal problem is these drugs have important uses other than just pregnancy termination.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:42 AM
Apr 2023

It's used in dealing with miscarriages. So Jebus Boy wants to tie MD's hands in handling pregnancy complications, making pregnancy even more hazardous to the mother. What an asshole.

Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

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