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LetMyPeopleVote

(179,870 posts)
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 03:01 PM Apr 2023

TFG's lawyers again raised the so-called Clinton sock case to defend TFG

Today on Meet the Press, Chuck Todd actually asked a TFG attorney questions and the attorney cited the Clinton sock case



https://www.mediaite.com/news/thats-just-a-cheap-shot-trump-lawyer-chafes-at-chuck-todd-asking-if-trump-holding-docs-hostage-for-money/
JAMES TRUSTY: Let’s go, let’s go more modern day because you’re right about the time you were Presidential Records Act. Bill Clinton had multiple recordings he kept in a sock drawer of his presidency while in the oval office talking to foreign leaders, talking to advisers. He basically said, “Hey, that stays in my sock drawer. It’s personal” and everyone didn’t blink.

TFG appears to want to litigate the applicability of the Presidential Records Act. The case cited dealing with President Clinton's persnoal records is being wrongly cited by TFG's idiot attorneys in both the Special Master litigation and now today. The two cases are not similar at all.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/team-trump-takes-interest-clinton-sock-drawer-case-rcna47363?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

But as NBC News report added, it’d be an overstatement to suggest there was nothing new in the filing.

Trump’s newest filing for the first time refers to what has been called “the Clinton sock drawer case,” a 2012 ruling concerning a former president’s power — in this case, Bill Clinton — to unilaterally decide what is a private record and what is a Presidential Records Act document in his post-presidency.


And what, pray tell is “the Clinton sock drawer case”? I’m glad you asked.

During his White House tenure, Bill Clinton spoke at some length with Pulitzer Prize-winning author Taylor Branch, and as part of the project, there were many recordings of their conversations. According to one 2007 account, tapes were at one point stored in a sock drawer.

A conservative group called Judicial Watch filed a lawsuit, demanding that Clinton be forced to turn over the recordings. In 2012, a federal court rejected the organization’s claims, concluding that the tapes were personal records, not official presidential materials.......

But it’s not nearly that simple. NBC News’ report added, “Unmentioned by Trump’s defenders who began raising the issue of the sock drawer case last month is that Jackson’s ruling explicitly states that the Presidential Records Act distinguishes presidential records from ‘personal records,’ defined as documents that are ‘purely private or nonpublic character.’”

In contrast, Trump took highly sensitive national security secrets to his glorified country club. To see the two as comparable is to overlook every relevant detail.

I have heard TFG's attorneys cite the Clinton sock case several times. This case will not help TFG
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TFG's lawyers again raised the so-called Clinton sock case to defend TFG (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 OP
It's not intended as a serious legal argument ThoughtCriminal Apr 2023 #1
"whataboutism" plays great with infotainment talking heads Takket Apr 2023 #2
TFG is worried LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #3

ThoughtCriminal

(14,721 posts)
1. It's not intended as a serious legal argument
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 03:52 PM
Apr 2023

It is being thrown out there purely for a political base that is incapable or unwilling to understand the difference.

Takket

(23,715 posts)
2. "whataboutism" plays great with infotainment talking heads
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 03:57 PM
Apr 2023

but that isn't going to do SHIT for you in court

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