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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYou know how the Supremes say gun laws have to be "rooted in our nation's history"?
What do you think they would do if some jurisdiction codified Dodge City's gun laws?
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,926 posts)Dodge City was founded in 1872 it looks. The Text, History, and Tradition standard that Thomas made up in Bruen looks specifically from 1791, when the 2nd Amendment was ratified, to 1868, when the 14th Amendment was ratified. Even if the Dodge City laws were within that time frame, there would have to be many examples of the same laws found throughout the US in order to satisfy the "tradition" part. One off laws won't pass muster, nor laws that were in place only for a short period of time. They need to have been widespread and well established.
madville
(7,412 posts)Probably the most strict in the nation, very difficult if not impossible for regular citizens to get permits/licenses there.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,926 posts)The Bruen decision overturned NY's laws, as well as all other states with "may issue" permitting schemes for concealed carry. They now have to issue carry permits to all applicants who meet the statutory requirements. No special need is required. For New York, you need to complete a training course, provide character references and social media accounts, list spouse or domestic partner and all other adults who live with the applicant, and complete a in person interview with the licensing authority. Do that, plus pass the background check and pay the related fees and they must issue you a permit to carry.
Parts of the new law is being challenged in court, so currently NY probably still has the most strict laws, it remains to be seen if they will survive the additional court challenges.
madville
(7,412 posts)Im talking about New York City ordinances, not NY state law. New York City does not even honor New York State carry permits. Youre talking about New York State laws that were overturned, New York City still has very restrictive ordinances in place.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,926 posts)Bruen applied to every state and locality. CA, HI, NJ, MD, etc all had to change their laws. NYC was no exception. NYC also has to issue carry permits to whoever wants one as long as they meet the statutory requirements. No special need is required.
NYPD announced immediate changes, which includes eliminating the "proper cause" requirements.
[link:https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/news/sa0014/nypd-the-adoption-an-emergency-rule-effective-immediately-establishing-additional|]
And the NYC Mayor had announcement on the state law that affected NYC law.
[link:https://www.nyc.gov/nyc-resources/new-york-city-concealed-carry-law.page|]
It would appear that NYC is now following state law but still issuing their own permits.
[link:https://licensing.nypdonline.org/faq/|]