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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWill "Margie" accuse the Dalai Lama of being a "groomer"?
The Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama apologized on Monday after a video which showed him asking a boy to suck his tongue triggered a backlash on social media.
The video, which has gone viral, shows the Dalai Lama, 87, planting a kiss on the boy's lips as he leaned in to pay his respects.
The Buddhist monk is then seen sticking his tongue out as he asked the child to suck it. "Can you suck my tongue," he is heard asking the young boy in the video.
https://www.rawstory.com/dalai-lama-apologises-for-asking-boy-to-suck-his-tongue/
Maru Kitteh
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Javaman
(65,711 posts)Maru Kitteh
(31,761 posts)Whereas their values are hate, white patriarchy and cruelty. All of this makes him Democratic-adjacent
Now he fucked up.
Yes he will he called a groomer by the right, and everyone should be asking themselves; if he was so comfortable doing this in the open with witnesses - what's been goin on in the dark with the door closed;
Javaman
(65,711 posts)the d lama needs to be called out on this shit.
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no_hypocrisy
(54,908 posts)It's like she's proud of it.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,990 posts)Every single one of them has been caught up in child diddling for time immemorial.
She would actually be right this time.
TheProle
(3,982 posts)Really. "Every single" religious or spiritual leader for "time immemorial"?
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)MLK Jr.? Gandhi? All the popes? Farrakhan? The Islamic leaders past and present? Billy Graham?
Could you post some links showing the "child diddling" that they were "caught up in"?
shrike3
(5,370 posts)I'd like to add Bishop Tutu, who came across in interviews as one of the nicest people alive.
cbabe
(6,648 posts)For starters:
https://www.miamiherald.com news nation-world national article105581626.html
Was Gandhi saint or sinner? Debate rages over statue - Miami Herald
Gandhi was also called a pedophile by many in the crowd for sleeping nude with his teenage grandnieces to test the strength of his vow of chastity. "Gandhi was a child molester," said Tej Maan ...
https://gvwire.com 2020 07 20 ad-calls-gandhi-a-racist-pedophile-urges-removal-of-fresno-state-bust
Ad calls Gandhi a racist pedophile urges removal of Fresno State bust
Gandhi was undeniably racist towards Africans, dismissive of both the Armenians under the Ottoman Turks and Jews in Nazi Germany. He disrespected Sikhs and held contempt towards oppressed Dalitz. His pedophilic ways are well-documented. We can do better. President Castro. Bring our community together and let's unite against hypocrisy."
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)The poster claimed that ALL were child molesters.
shrike3
(5,370 posts)Hard to know with Ghandi because there was a lot of character assassination coming from the British side. I take some of what I read with a grain of salt.
Here's a bit from NPR re Ghandi:
There's no way around it: Gandhi was a racist early in his life, says his biographer Ramachandra Guha.
"Gandhi as a young man went with the ideas of his culture and his time. He thought in his 20s that Europeans are the most civilized. Indians were almost as civilized, and Africans were uncivilized," Guha, 61, told NPR in an interview in May at his home in Bengaluru, India.
"However, he outgrew his racism quite decisively, and for most of his life as a public figure, he was an anti-racist, talking for an end to discrimination of all kinds," he said.
That included gender discrimination. Gandhi championed women in politics. But he was also obsessed with his own celibacy. In his late 70s, before he died at 78, he slept naked with his grandniece when she was in her late teens. He said he wanted to test his willpower to abstain from sex.
Nowadays, most people would call that abuse. Some question whether the young female was capable of giving consent as a minor to a man who was so revered and so much more powerful than she.
In 1962, when British filmmaker Richard Attenborough began researching what would become his 1982 Gandhi film, he asked Jawaharlal Nehru, India's first prime minister, how he should portray his late colleague. Nehru famously replied that Gandhi was "a great man, but he had his weaknesses, his moods and his failings." He begged Attenborough not to turn Gandhi into a saint. He was "much too human," Nehru said.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,990 posts)Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Baptists, Mormons, Buddhists and so on and so forth. Not every single person but every single denomination or religious sect.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)I imagine that pedophiles exist in every area of human life for that matter. Disgusting as it is to imagine, I have no doubt it's true.
Religion has no monopoly on this.
shrike3
(5,370 posts)The Boy Scouts. Ox-fam. University of Michigan. U.S. Olympic Committee. The Bureau of Indian Affairs. Countless youth athletics clubs, some of which are in my area. We as humans have a lot of work to do.
JI7
(93,617 posts)and Gym Jordan ? And so many others that she would identify with ?
leftyladyfrommo
(20,005 posts)FalloutShelter
(14,466 posts)been concerns about dementia. It is time he withdraws from the public. IMHO
For those who do not know, sticking out one's tongue is a form of greeting in Tibet.
Otherwise, the inappropriate language is something I was in my father when he suffered from dementia. The filters are entirely of and he would often blurt terrible things and be totally unaware that he wasn't expressing something else entirely.
It is very sad.
leftyladyfrommo
(20,005 posts)I don't want to see his reputation wrecked by one strange incident.
FalloutShelter
(14,466 posts)My life has been immeasurably enriched by my good fortune to have attend several teachings by The Dalai Lama.
His lifetime of good works and fight for peace should not be tarnished by this.
shrike3
(5,370 posts)I'm glad you enjoyed his teachings.
leftyladyfrommo
(20,005 posts)to make him look terrible. They will blast this all over.
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shrike3
(5,370 posts)Language of course terribly inappropriate. But you're exactly right, i.e. filters and dementia.
TexasBushwhacker
(21,204 posts)obamanut2012
(29,369 posts)Getting old and senile does not make you a pedophile.
The Dalai Lama love and support has always been old to me. He does done and said so many pretty horrible things,.
LeftinOH
(5,648 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)He's not.
LeftinOH
(5,648 posts)anything about other religious, and freely conflate them with each other (Islam, Sikhs, Buddhists, etc).
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)I can only imagine if a Christian leader had been seen in this situation.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)By some well known here, so we didn't need to wait for Greene, as you say.
Sogo
(7,191 posts)This incident makes one wonder what he's been like with children in private....