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gab13by13

(32,321 posts)
Tue Apr 11, 2023, 04:18 PM Apr 2023

Alvin Bragg Appreciation Thread

I am ashamed to say that I doubted Mr. Bragg. Alvin Bragg isn't doing a pyramid strategy going after the hundreds of people who are sending him death threats, Alvin Bragg is going for the head of the snake, the person inciting the threats.

Let's see how Gym Jordan acts in federal court where he can't just Tweet out inane comments.

Lead the way Mr. Bragg, lead the way.

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Alvin Bragg Appreciation Thread (Original Post) gab13by13 Apr 2023 OP
This is GREAT news! 634-5789 Apr 2023 #1
Thank you, Alvin Bragg! raging moderate Apr 2023 #2
I'll sign on GPV Apr 2023 #3
So will I. calimary Apr 2023 #46
Anyone know if this could result in criminal charges for Jordan? Marius25 Apr 2023 #4
I think he is suing to get the judge to stop Jordan's subpoenas Walleye Apr 2023 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #19
That's right, Trump doesn't usually have to deal with people who have moral authority Walleye Apr 2023 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #30
No. See "speech & debate clause" brooklynite Apr 2023 #31
Alvin Bragg is my new HERO! skylucy Apr 2023 #5
Thank you sir! PortTack Apr 2023 #6
This makes me so happy! StarryNite Apr 2023 #7
It is in state court isn't it? Bev54 Apr 2023 #8
Federal court - filed to the SDNY (federal district court for the Southern District of NY) BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #18
Ahhhh. Bev54 Apr 2023 #20
That's because Congress is "federal" BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #22
Ok thanks, makes sense now, it is about the federal subpoenas after all. Bev54 Apr 2023 #24
Yup BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #33
Thanks so much for the legal details Rhiannon12866 Apr 2023 #35
Would love to see your state BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #38
It sure sounds like Bragg's giving it a try! Rhiannon12866 Apr 2023 #39
He doesn't BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #40
Thanks. Can't wait for the E. Jean Carroll appreciation thread. live love laugh Apr 2023 #9
Alvin Bragg is my new HERO! skylucy Apr 2023 #10
Thank you Mr. Bragg. Prairie_Seagull Apr 2023 #11
I appreciate this OP mcar Apr 2023 #12
book em DANO!! YoshidaYui Apr 2023 #14
Thanks for getting our minds off of Merrick Garland! Blue Owl Apr 2023 #15
Thanks for showing Garland how it's done hot2na Apr 2023 #21
That was such a boss move. I LOVE it! ecstatic Apr 2023 #16
Yes Akakoji Apr 2023 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #17
Kudos, DA Bragg gademocrat7 Apr 2023 #25
There are how many millions of Americans looking for accountability. ffr Apr 2023 #26
Jordan's a fool and Bragg is going to reveal that fact. Septua Apr 2023 #27
Don't be ashamed. Akakoji Apr 2023 #28
...K&R... spanone Apr 2023 #32
DA Alvin Bragg, sir, much obliged FakeNoose Apr 2023 #34
Recommended. H2O Man Apr 2023 #36
I did not see this. onecaliberal Apr 2023 #37
Take Gym Jordan OUT, Mr. Bragg. For starters. Paladin Apr 2023 #41
Bragg has claudette Apr 2023 #42
like the posting republianmushroom Apr 2023 #43
K&R orangecrush Apr 2023 #44
Thank you Mr. Bragg MustLoveBeagles Apr 2023 #45
👇👇👇👇👇 Goonch Apr 2023 #47

raging moderate

(4,624 posts)
2. Thank you, Alvin Bragg!
Tue Apr 11, 2023, 04:23 PM
Apr 2023

Thank you for your strength, your courage, your intelligence, your energy!

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
4. Anyone know if this could result in criminal charges for Jordan?
Tue Apr 11, 2023, 04:26 PM
Apr 2023

Or is just an injunction to get him to stop obstructing?

Response to Walleye (Reply #13)

Response to Walleye (Reply #23)

BumRushDaShow

(169,758 posts)
18. Federal court - filed to the SDNY (federal district court for the Southern District of NY)
Tue Apr 11, 2023, 06:39 PM
Apr 2023
Case 1:23-cv-03032 Document 1 Filed 04/11/23 Page 1 of 50


IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK

________________________________________________________________

ALVIN L. BRAGG, JR., in his official capacity as District Attorney for New York County,

Plaintiff,

v. JIM JORDAN, in his official capacity as Chairman of the Committee on the Judiciary;
COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY OF THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES; and MARK F. POMERANTZ,

Defendants.
__________________________________________________________________

Case No. 23-cv-03032



INTRODUCTION

1. Plaintiff District Attorney Alvin L. Bragg, Jr. brings this action in response to an unprecedently brazen and unconstitutional attack by members of Congress on an ongoing New York State criminal prosecution and investigation of former President Donald J. Trump. Beginning on March 20, 2023, Representative Jim Jordan, Chairman of the House Committee on the Judiciary (the “Committee”), began a transparent campaign to intimidate and attack District Attorney Bragg, making demands for confidential documents and testimony from the District Attorney himself as well as his current and former employees and officials. Two days after Mr. Trump was arraigned on 34 felony counts in New York State Supreme Court, Chairman Jordan and the Committee served a subpoena on Mark Pomerantz, a former Special Assistant District Attorney who participated in an investigation of Mr. Trump and his businesses. The subpoena seeks to compel Mr. Pomerantz to testify in a deposition on April 20, 2023. Chairman Jordan’s demands, including his subpoena to Mr. Pomerantz, seek highly sensitive and confidential local prosecutorial information that belongs to the Office of the District Attorney and the People of New York.

(snip)

More: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23772947-read-alvin-braggs-lawsuit-against-house-judiciary-chairman-jim-jordan-over-trump-probe-interference

BumRushDaShow

(169,758 posts)
33. Yup
Tue Apr 11, 2023, 07:21 PM
Apr 2023

and there is no rhyme or reason as to why a Congressional Committee needs to insert itself into a state's criminal investigation, particularly when that state is prosecuting a suspect based on a STATE'S laws.

It's idiotic that Gymsuit is leaving a clear trail of obstruction. In fact, NY state has in its penal code, what they dub "Obstructing governmental administration", which if Jordan keeps at this, they could charge him with.

This entry was published on 2014-09-22


SECTION 195.05
Obstructing governmental administration in the second degree


Penal (PEN) CHAPTER 40, PART 3, TITLE L, ARTICLE 195

========================================

§ 195.05 Obstructing governmental administration in the second degree.

A person is guilty of obstructing governmental administration when he
intentionally obstructs, impairs or perverts the administration of law
or other governmental function or prevents or attempts to prevent a
public servant from performing an official function, by means of
intimidation, physical force or interference, or by means of any
independently unlawful act, or by means of interfering, whether or not
physical force is involved, with radio, telephone, television or other
telecommunications systems owned or operated by the state, or a county,
city, town, village, fire district or emergency medical service or by
means of releasing a dangerous animal under circumstances evincing the
actor's intent that the animal obstruct governmental administration.

Obstructing governmental administration is a class A misdemeanor.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/195.05


Bragg's office is slowly escalating their "warnings" before they consider going that far.

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
39. It sure sounds like Bragg's giving it a try!
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 04:54 AM
Apr 2023

And I really don't think Jordan has the legal right - or knowledge - to win this!

BumRushDaShow

(169,758 posts)
40. He doesn't
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 05:31 AM
Apr 2023

Congress doesn't have any "oversight" over individual state civil or criminal prosecutions - and especially when it has to do with violations of state law, which is the case here.

NY has that "interference" mention in the penal code that Jordan can be charged with if he continues his ridiculous charade. The lawsuit actually uses the penal code language to characterize this. A hearing is scheduled for the lawsuit next week -


Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg sues Rep. Jim Jordan to block interference in Trump case

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 5:22PM


(snip)

The court will hold a hearing on Bragg's motion on Wednesday, April 19.

(snip)

The lawsuit makes specific mention of threats Bragg has endured since Trump posted on social media about the prospect of being indicted.

"Later that day, a package containing suspicious white powder arrived at the District Attorney's Office along with a note making a specific death threat against the District Attorney. The New York City Police Department and the Department of Environmental Protection responded and ultimately concluded the substance was not dangerous. In the aftermath, the District Attorney's Office received more than 1,000 calls and emails from individuals claiming to be Mr. Trump's supporters, many of which were threatening and racially charged. District Attorney Bragg also received multiple death threats," the lawsuit said.

The lawsuit accused Jordan and the House Republicans of "participating in a campaign of intimidation, retaliation, and obstruction." It noted how Trump "has threatened New York officials with violent and racist vitriol."

(snip)

https://abc7ny.com/alvin-bragg-donald-trump-jim-jordan-lawsuit/13113872/



He's whining now...




Rep. Jim Jordan
@Jim_Jordan
·
Follow
First, they indict a president for no crime.

Then, they sue to block congressional oversight when we ask questions about the federal funds they say they used to do it.
3:15 PM · Apr 11, 2023








ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
16. That was such a boss move. I LOVE it!
Tue Apr 11, 2023, 06:31 PM
Apr 2023

He warned them several times and now he's taking action. I hope other Democrats are taking notes. You can try to talk and reason with rethugs all day long. It doesn't work. They only understand consequences. Swift, harsh consequences.

Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

ffr

(23,398 posts)
26. There are how many millions of Americans looking for accountability.
Tue Apr 11, 2023, 07:03 PM
Apr 2023

Bragg doesn't sound like he's much interested in wimpy law enforcement.

Septua

(2,957 posts)
27. Jordan's a fool and Bragg is going to reveal that fact.
Tue Apr 11, 2023, 07:03 PM
Apr 2023

Jordan, who is not a lawyer, should have known better than to pick a fight with a lawyer but because he's a fool, he couldn't know better.

He will however, go on Fox, give a completely different narrative of the facts, and claim a victory.

H2O Man

(79,052 posts)
36. Recommended.
Tue Apr 11, 2023, 10:32 PM
Apr 2023

I was confident that he would do the right thing. I am impressed with how right he is doing it. Great respect.

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