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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 12:41 PM Apr 2023

As I read Jim Jordan's complaint that the Bragg complaint against him "attempts to

obstruct our oversight function", it occurred to me that "oversight" is the MAGA party's primary goal.

Thet want to "oversee" who we love, how we worship, women's health decisions, teen girls' menstrual cycles, what fuel we use, what cars we drive, what books we read and---most importantly---whose vote REALLY counts.

There are no "good" MAGA policies.

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As I read Jim Jordan's complaint that the Bragg complaint against him "attempts to (Original Post) Atticus Apr 2023 OP
The US House has *no* oversight function relating to state-level prosecutions Ocelot II Apr 2023 #1
Exactly. Just like a social media company deleting offensive posts is not a 1st Amendment issue. Midnight Writer Apr 2023 #12
omg -- great comparison! orleans Apr 2023 #31
Correct TimeToGo Apr 2023 #30
Like DeSantis "oversaw" torture at Guantanamo. n/t barbaraann Apr 2023 #2
Jordan is drunk with power, he's got a big hangover coming Walleye Apr 2023 #3
Gym Jordan is out of his depth malaise Apr 2023 #4
...and in over his head. WheelWalker Apr 2023 #7
Which is an easy trap for him anyway. calimary Apr 2023 #35
Jim Jordan would be out of his depth Otto_Harper Apr 2023 #25
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Apr 2023 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Apr 2023 #5
More BS talking points for Faux Noise. grumpyduck Apr 2023 #6
Gym and his committee have zero "oversight authority" over D.A. Bragg, his office, or the NY ... Botany Apr 2023 #8
I guess he has always done OK with bluster and sarcasm vanlassie Apr 2023 #9
Gym is just JanLip Apr 2023 #22
he does not have oversight barbtries Apr 2023 #10
Nailed it republianmushroom Apr 2023 #11
If Gymsuit doesn't stand down, I hope Bragg's office brings state charges against him BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #13
This for someone using attack dogs? KS Toronado Apr 2023 #16
That is an example of a form of "intimidation" BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #19
The charge fits: Dangerous animals including, but not limited to, attack dogs. Marcuse Apr 2023 #29
Thanks KS Toronado Apr 2023 #33
And with that, he made it clear what his whole outlook on life is. calimary Apr 2023 #36
They are banking on a partisan court system. Caliman73 Apr 2023 #14
Congress has oversight responsibility for the federal executive KPN Apr 2023 #15
Can you supply a link? Thanks. n/t aggiesal Apr 2023 #17
Gymsuit tweeted that whining nonsense out yesterday BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #20
Thank you. There will be a little extra in your paycheck next week! n/t aggiesal Apr 2023 #21
LOL BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #23
Gym Jordan opened himself up to discovery, gab13by13 Apr 2023 #18
Jordan is an arrogant ignoramus. Joinfortmill Apr 2023 #24
Wait, DA Bragg is suing both Jim Jordan AND Mark Pomerantz? FakeNoose Apr 2023 #26
A more accurate name for Gym's "oversight" would be meddling. democrank Apr 2023 #28
But you need to be able to see how he's built! calimary Apr 2023 #37
Who legitimizes someone who routinely overlooked sex abuse Marthe48 Apr 2023 #32
Correct. moondust Apr 2023 #34
Basically, but there's a word for that... NotVeryImportant Apr 2023 #38

Midnight Writer

(21,802 posts)
12. Exactly. Just like a social media company deleting offensive posts is not a 1st Amendment issue.
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 01:12 PM
Apr 2023

Republicans understand the Constitution just like they understand the Bible.

malaise

(269,173 posts)
4. Gym Jordan is out of his depth
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 12:50 PM
Apr 2023

Bragg is a real lawyer - he will own the bragging rights on this major upcoming embarrassment for these racist fascists

calimary

(81,500 posts)
35. Which is an easy trap for him anyway.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 11:09 AM
Apr 2023

He’s a short guy. Probably what drew him to some “alpha male” activity in high school or college or something - to build muscle. You can’t build height - even lifts in your shoes only add a couple of inches and he needed/wanted more than a couple of inches. He wanted to tower over everyone else but it just wasn’t meant to be. So he went for the body-building and muscles and physical dominance and virility that wrestling might be able to give him.

And okay, I’m gonna go there: his lack of physical stature probably extends - um - below the waist.

Whatever. Having observed his belligerence and attempted bullying behavior, I’d suspect he has a short-guy complex. And probably early-on, overcompensation was his way to thinking of himself as more powerful and dominant. He probably yearned to have some weight to throw around. No wonder he eventually aimed toward the corridors of political power! “You’ll see! They’re gonna fear me NOW!”

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Botany

(70,585 posts)
8. Gym and his committee have zero "oversight authority" over D.A. Bragg, his office, or the NY ...
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 12:59 PM
Apr 2023

... which is hearing the case.

vanlassie

(5,689 posts)
9. I guess he has always done OK with bluster and sarcasm
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 01:03 PM
Apr 2023

neither of which are of any use against a smart person with their own power.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
10. he does not have oversight
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 01:08 PM
Apr 2023

over a state's justice dept!

especially not to grease the wheels for his loathsome cult leader. good gawd it pisses me off


aargh

BumRushDaShow

(129,497 posts)
13. If Gymsuit doesn't stand down, I hope Bragg's office brings state charges against him
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 01:18 PM
Apr 2023
This entry was published on 2014-09-22


SECTION 195.05
Obstructing governmental administration in the second degree


Penal (PEN) CHAPTER 40, PART 3, TITLE L, ARTICLE 195

========================================

§ 195.05 Obstructing governmental administration in the second degree.

A person is guilty of obstructing governmental administration when he
intentionally obstructs, impairs or perverts the administration of law
or other governmental function or prevents or attempts to prevent a
public servant from performing an official function, by means of
intimidation, physical force or interference, or by means of any
independently unlawful act, or by means of interfering, whether or not
physical force is involved, with radio, telephone, television or other
telecommunications systems owned or operated by the state, or a county,
city, town, village, fire district or emergency medical service or by
means of releasing a dangerous animal under circumstances evincing the
actor's intent that the animal obstruct governmental administration.

Obstructing governmental administration is a class A misdemeanor.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/195.05


Bragg's suit against him in federal court even cites the "language" of the NY penal code that Gymsuit is violating.

From pg 3 of the suit -

Case 1:23-cv-03032 Document 1 Filed 04/11/23 Page 1 of 50


IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK

________________________________________________________________

ALVIN L. BRAGG, JR., in his official capacity as District Attorney for New York County,

Plaintiff,

v. JIM JORDAN, in his official capacity as Chairman of the Committee on the Judiciary;
COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY OF THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES; and MARK F. POMERANTZ,

Defendants.
__________________________________________________________________

Case No. 23-cv-03032


(BREAK BREAK BREAK)


Case 1:23-cv-03032 Document 1 Filed 04/11/23 Page 3 of 50

(snip)

4. The charges the District Attorney filed against Mr. Trump were approved by citizens of New York. They did their civic duty as members of a grand jury pursuant to the federal Constitution and laws of the State of New York. Like any other defendant, Mr. Trump is entitled to challenge these charges in court. He can avail himself of all the processes and protections that New York State’s robust criminal procedure affords. 5. But rather than allowing the criminal process to proceed in the ordinary course, Chairman Jordan and the Committee are participating in a campaign of intimidation, retaliation, and obstruction. Mr. Trump in particular has threatened New York officials with violent and racist vitriol.

(snip)

More: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23772947-read-alvin-braggs-lawsuit-against-house-judiciary-chairman-jim-jordan-over-trump-probe-interference

KS Toronado

(17,329 posts)
16. This for someone using attack dogs?
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 01:58 PM
Apr 2023

"or by means of releasing a dangerous animal under circumstances evincing the actor's intent that the
animal obstruct governmental administration."

BumRushDaShow

(129,497 posts)
19. That is an example of a form of "intimidation"
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 02:23 PM
Apr 2023

which is cited in the penal code and I think that fits some of the hoodlums who associate with 45 and his minions!

calimary

(81,500 posts)
36. And with that, he made it clear what his whole outlook on life is.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 11:18 AM
Apr 2023

“They’re not here to hurt ME. I don’t give a crap what happens to anybody else. Let ‘em riot and go nuts and trash the place. Teach my haters a lesson. I’LL be just fine.”

Schmuck.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
14. They are banking on a partisan court system.
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 01:21 PM
Apr 2023

So far, except for the Supreme Court and some district court judges, we do not have a partisan hack court system. The federal court system does not want to set the precedent against States Rights by allowing Jordan's bullshit to stand.

BumRushDaShow

(129,497 posts)
20. Gymsuit tweeted that whining nonsense out yesterday
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 02:27 PM
Apr 2023



Rep. Jim Jordan
@Jim_Jordan
·
Follow
First, they indict a president for no crime.

Then, they sue to block congressional oversight when we ask questions about the federal funds they say they used to do it.
3:15 PM · Apr 11, 2023

gab13by13

(21,405 posts)
18. Gym Jordan opened himself up to discovery,
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 02:21 PM
Apr 2023

If Gym is coordinating his witch hunt with Trump he's in hot water.

Gym is going to have to come up with a legal explanation why he wants to interfere in an ongoing criminal investigation.

FakeNoose

(32,767 posts)
26. Wait, DA Bragg is suing both Jim Jordan AND Mark Pomerantz?
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 02:52 PM
Apr 2023

Wow, I didn't know Pomerantz was part of this.

democrank

(11,109 posts)
28. A more accurate name for Gym's "oversight" would be meddling.
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 03:04 PM
Apr 2023

No jacket, no integrity…..nothing. Gym Jordan is a disgrace.

calimary

(81,500 posts)
37. But you need to be able to see how he's built!
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 11:22 AM
Apr 2023

The upper-body muscles and definition that a jacket would conceal. Can’t have that! “Besides, it sets me apart. Notice ME! Notice ME! I don’t HAVE TO BE six feet tall!”

Marthe48

(17,027 posts)
32. Who legitimizes someone who routinely overlooked sex abuse
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 03:32 PM
Apr 2023

under his nose, of boys in his care? He was an incompetent locker room accessory then, he is an incompetent blowhard now, and he won't do any better.

What a shame that people like him were gerrymandered into a responsibility position by people as bad as, or worse than he is.

moondust

(20,006 posts)
34. Correct.
Wed Apr 12, 2023, 04:32 PM
Apr 2023

GQP amateur authoritarian control freaks are not there to legislate or govern for The People. They are there to control everyone and everything to benefit their big donors and themselves.

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