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UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 05:50 AM Apr 2023

Big U.S. intelligence leak was by gun enthusiast in 20s -Washington Post

(Reuters) - The person who leaked U.S. classified documents prompting a national security investigation is a gun enthusiast in his 20s who worked on a military base, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday, citing fellow members of an online chat group.

The person shared classified information to a group on the instant messaging platform Discord of about two dozen men and young boys who shared a "mutual love of guns, military gear and God," the Post said.

… snip …

The person went by the handle OG, slang for Original Gangster, or an old school traditionalist. The person was described by one of the Post's sources as being in his early to mid-20s, and was looked up to by members of the group.

"He's fit. He's strong. He's armed. He's trained. Just about everything you can expect out of some sort of crazy movie," said one member of the chat group, who was under 18 and spoke on the condition of anonymity with the permission of his mother, the Post reported.

In what appears to be the gravest leak of U.S. secrets in years, pictures of sensitive documents were posed on Discord and other platforms including the online messaging board 4Chan, the encrypted Telegram global messaging app, and Twitter.

More at:

https://news.yahoo.com/big-u-intelligence-leak-gun-034247926.html

Have I said how much I despise MAGAts lately?

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Big U.S. intelligence leak was by gun enthusiast in 20s -Washington Post (Original Post) UpInArms Apr 2023 OP
Knew it was Trump related underpants Apr 2023 #1
✔️ live love laugh Apr 2023 #14
Similar to Snowden -- Snowden didn't get caught fast enough and Tetrachloride Apr 2023 #2
There are all kinds of leaks. This one surpasses any in live love laugh Apr 2023 #16
So many people live in our beautiful country, and harbor hatred toward us Walleye Apr 2023 #3
He worked on a military base--meaning he was a civilian? Lonestarblue Apr 2023 #4
And now we know why privatizing these kind of jobs is a bad idea. Baitball Blogger Apr 2023 #10
+1 2naSalit Apr 2023 #33
Men in their 20s haven't fully matured LittleGirl Apr 2023 #5
If a 20 something man plots against the country he's immature. Hope22 Apr 2023 #11
As an older citizen LittleGirl Apr 2023 #40
Me too! Hope22 Apr 2023 #41
Checklist NowISeetheLight Apr 2023 #6
Absolutely 💯 live love laugh Apr 2023 #17
and he loves god onethatcares Apr 2023 #24
Yep. Seems they're all traitors now. Scrivener7 Apr 2023 #28
it's hard for me to let a day go by without noting barbtries Apr 2023 #7
A fucking Trumper. Who would have thought that would be the case? Botany Apr 2023 #8
To jail he goes. Baitball Blogger Apr 2023 #9
It's shameful and embarrassing that we don't adequately screen who has access to these docs DFW Apr 2023 #12
This is my main takeaway, gab13by13 Apr 2023 #29
Indeed. 2naSalit Apr 2023 #34
Oh, we screen hard when a minority is involved, believe me. White men with even criminal background Samrob Apr 2023 #39
When the GOP gets done spinning this, the guy will be "woke" and transgender. Vinca Apr 2023 #13
Ironically funny and true Redleg Apr 2023 #18
There needs to be a purge of Trumpsters with security clearance Johnny2X2X Apr 2023 #15
How did this traitor come by the information? AllyCat Apr 2023 #19
Maybe the oldest way in the world... getagrip_already Apr 2023 #20
Possibly someone left them laying around in an office (improperly) Liberal In Texas Apr 2023 #26
Reality Winner obamanut2012 Apr 2023 #21
Was this about ongoing strategy and tactics being used in Ukraine? Ligyron Apr 2023 #22
Heads should roll, including the contractor that employed this traitor dlk Apr 2023 #23
Leavenworth, KS sloopdog50 Apr 2023 #25
And he could be charged with espionage. Joinfortmill Apr 2023 #27
This is what MAGATs do. They are trying to destroy the country. hadEnuf Apr 2023 #30
More right wing treason. The Jungle 1 Apr 2023 #31
Why are people calling this guy a Trumper/MAGA? WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2023 #32
From the article UpInArms Apr 2023 #35
People loved those things before Trump and will do so after Trump. Nothing the source said had WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2023 #37
Of course UpInArms Apr 2023 #38
ah yes, what rethugs would call a "Real American" Takket Apr 2023 #36

live love laugh

(13,128 posts)
16. There are all kinds of leaks. This one surpasses any in
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 07:38 AM
Apr 2023

recent history as the article states—Snowden included.

Lonestarblue

(10,063 posts)
4. He worked on a military base--meaning he was a civilian?
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 06:22 AM
Apr 2023

The Post or the Times had an article yesterday about how many private contractors are used by the military and how too much top-secret information flows through them with few controls. This may be an example. Part of Republican dogma is to privatize everything to generate more profits for the rich, so companies contract with the military to provide expertise the military needs. Sure hope this cretin spends a lot of time in jail.

LittleGirl

(8,291 posts)
5. Men in their 20s haven't fully matured
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 06:33 AM
Apr 2023

The government needs to stop contracting our military operations to civilians! This is what happens when you don’t have unions to back employees and the danger to the citizens of this country. This guy isn’t mature to understand the severe level of their actions.

The GOP/MAGA crowd have no idea how the rest of the world works. They are in their right wing bubble and I hope that this is a wake up call to our military. Stop hiring civilians for proper military posts.

And another thing, the Pentagon got 80 billion more dollars than they requested. Why are front line soldiers needing food stamps to survive? Where is all that money going because the military personnel aren’t getting it. Shakes fist!

Rant over

Hope22

(1,858 posts)
11. If a 20 something man plots against the country he's immature.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 07:16 AM
Apr 2023

If a 20 something woman plots against the country what is her excuse? Why are these men given an out. I guess we need to hire babysitters.

LittleGirl

(8,291 posts)
40. As an older citizen
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 10:15 AM
Apr 2023

I am worried about all these young men that are causing so much trouble.
It’s like they are being groomed by religion, guns and violence.

Hope22

(1,858 posts)
41. Me too!
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 02:08 PM
Apr 2023

It could be that or the dark tunnel of the internet echoing into their empty noggins. Feeding the depression of not having what they think everyone else has. Hearing about city libraries being closed next sends chills down my spine. If people stop reading to the little ones we are in for a bumpy ride!

onethatcares

(16,184 posts)
24. and he loves god
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:10 AM
Apr 2023

according to some 14 year old with permission from his mommy. Just the kind of person that needs to be on a gun site.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
12. It's shameful and embarrassing that we don't adequately screen who has access to these docs
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 07:32 AM
Apr 2023

Maybe we need to take a better look at who is doing the screening. Maybe this happened with their blessing. This doesn't sound like it was the sole brain-child of one 20-something gun freak from the God Squad.

gab13by13

(21,400 posts)
29. This is my main takeaway,
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:44 AM
Apr 2023

how does he get access to top secret documents? If he had clearance something is severely fucked up with the system.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
39. Oh, we screen hard when a minority is involved, believe me. White men with even criminal background
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:48 AM
Apr 2023

slip thru easily, especially if they are former military. They seldom vet using battalion members or smaller unit member who are close to the person being vetted.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
15. There needs to be a purge of Trumpsters with security clearance
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 07:38 AM
Apr 2023

If you support Trump, you cannot be trusted with America's secrets, period. These are people who have chosen a cult leader over their own country, they should not have security clearance. No oath they take to our Constitution is meaningful because they've taken an oath to Trump that means more to them. The damage Trump has done to every aspect of this country will last generations. He's gotten a significant portion of our country to forsake their country, they worship him above all and they think that's what is patriotic.

getagrip_already

(14,834 posts)
20. Maybe the oldest way in the world...
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 07:51 AM
Apr 2023

He may have slept with someone who had the documents.

Unless he personally had clearance to access those docs, it's unlikely he would have them.



Liberal In Texas

(13,574 posts)
26. Possibly someone left them laying around in an office (improperly)
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:24 AM
Apr 2023

and he saw them as he was sweeping the floor or something and scooped them up and stuffed them into his pockets.

Somebody somewhere didn't follow orders with how to handle secret documents.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
22. Was this about ongoing strategy and tactics being used in Ukraine?
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:05 AM
Apr 2023

Why would he want to endanger or harm our military? If he's a Trumper and thus supposedly loves the USA, how does this make sense? Maybe it's related to the GOP going cold on supporting the war over there.

Some were thinking this an attempt at disinformation but obviously not now.

Glad they identified him rather quickly but still, weird.

dlk

(11,575 posts)
23. Heads should roll, including the contractor that employed this traitor
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:09 AM
Apr 2023

This was treason and everyone involved should be locked up until the end of days.

sloopdog50

(36 posts)
25. Leavenworth, KS
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:18 AM
Apr 2023

That a good place for this big, bad MAGAT to meet new people for a lifetime. Fear not, a lot of high ranking MAGATs will join him soon.

hadEnuf

(2,212 posts)
30. This is what MAGATs do. They are trying to destroy the country.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:45 AM
Apr 2023

All while screeching that woke Democrats are trying to destroy the country

It's one of the oldest tricks in the book. Keep the owner of the house busy at the front door by telling him who all the "criminals" are in the neighborhood while his buddy sneaks in the back door and cleans out the family jewels.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
31. More right wing treason.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:53 AM
Apr 2023

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
35. From the article
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:58 AM
Apr 2023
mutual love of guns, military gear and God

maybe that is too obscure

Editing to add:

Today’s media WILL NOT question their irresponsible reporting regarding the difference of the GQP and its horrifying behaviors.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,421 posts)
37. People loved those things before Trump and will do so after Trump. Nothing the source said had
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:02 AM
Apr 2023

anything to do with Trump, the GOP, etc. At least half of the group can't vote.

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