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ffr

(22,671 posts)
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 10:22 AM Apr 2023

Campaign Legal Center seeks criminal referral for Clarence Thomas

The CLC wrote to the Judicial Conference:

Campaign Legal Center respectfully requests that the Judicial Conference exercise its authority pursuant to 5 U.S.C. § 13106(b) and refer Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to the U.S. Attorney General because there is “reasonable cause to believe” that he “willfully failed to file information required to be reported” under the Ethics in GovernmentAct (“EIGA”).

If the Judicial Conference fails to publicly address the substantial evidence of blatant violations of a disclosure law that other
federal judges understand and regularly follow, it creates an exception for Justice Thomasthat swallows the rule. Inaction here also renders meaningless the Judicial Conference’s commitment in its most recent strategic plan to “ensure timely action is taken on credible allegations of misconduct according to established procedures."

* The Judicial Conference is Authorized to Refer Supreme Court Justices to the Attorney General for Violations of the Ethics in Government Act
* Justice Thomas Did Not Disclose Receipt of Free Travel Expenses as Required by the Ethics in Government Act
* There is Reasonable Cause to Believe that Justice Thomas Willfully Violated the Ethics in Government Act


In conclusion, the publicly known facts concerning Justice Thomas’ receipt of transportation on private planes and yachts raise significant legal implications for Justice Thomas and all federal judges who are required to comply with EIGA. It is incumbent on the Judicial Conference to either refer this matter to the U.S. Attorney General or state publicly why it believes this matter does not warrant further action.
https://www.politicususa.com/2023/04/13/a-criminal-referral-is-being-sought-for-clarence-thomas.html

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Campaign Legal Center seeks criminal referral for Clarence Thomas (Original Post) ffr Apr 2023 OP
Reminds me of a line in UpInArms Apr 2023 #1
That's an excuse commonly used by 2nd-A gun fetishes. jaxexpat Apr 2023 #2
Yep. Ridiculous argument. Like "don't do anything about it because nothing will work"! Reminds me KPN Apr 2023 #3
Shop humor is okay by me. jaxexpat Apr 2023 #28
best thing so far today👍 bringthePaine Apr 2023 #4
My apologies, but I've become too cynical about the AG for this story to give me hope. NullTuples Apr 2023 #5
I am sure a strongly worded letter would have Thomas shaking in his boots. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #37
Good. K&R for visibility. crickets Apr 2023 #6
I never heard of this organization before. ShazzieB Apr 2023 #7
Those who wrote the Constitution got many things right and a few things wrong. Lonestarblue Apr 2023 #8
The "well-regulated militia" part is always forgotten somehow. calimary Apr 2023 #11
More likely willfully ignored. LiberalFighter Apr 2023 #19
And the real weapons. Permanut Apr 2023 #21
a sternly worded letter... getagrip_already Apr 2023 #9
What about the Income Tax He Sould Have Paid? PuppyBismark Apr 2023 #10
You're not alone with that wish. calimary Apr 2023 #12
Gift taxes are not paid by the recipient Zeitghost Apr 2023 #17
That needs to change. LiberalFighter Apr 2023 #20
Gift? Hell - bribes aren't gifts... dchill Apr 2023 #22
Yes Zeitghost Apr 2023 #23
Yeah, that's a common Right Wng talking point Farmer-Rick Apr 2023 #31
I believe the gifts have to add up to around a million bucks before taxes due rickford66 Apr 2023 #29
like it republianmushroom Apr 2023 #13
I guarantee that an institutionalist gab13by13 Apr 2023 #14
Nobody is above the law even a person who adjudicates the law kimbutgar Apr 2023 #15
That corrupt, hate-filled jerk will just claim it's "a high-tech lynching" f_townsend Apr 2023 #16
Good Jarqui Apr 2023 #18
Prosecute and impeach and replace. lindysalsagal Apr 2023 #24
If you had video of Thomas Mr.Bill Apr 2023 #27
TY & the CLC, frr! nt Cha Apr 2023 #25
What if he is impeached but the Senate doesn't find him guilty, friend of a friend Apr 2023 #26
They should amend their request in view of new information summer_in_TX Apr 2023 #30
This is only the Crooked Clarence crimes we know about. Hassler Apr 2023 #32
Is an ethics violation a criminal violation? wnylib Apr 2023 #33
US code makes willfully filing incorrect financial disclosures a felony punishable by up to one year Scruffy1 Apr 2023 #34
Then if it's a felony - a crime - couldn't he be charged wnylib Apr 2023 #36
You don't really expect that anyone will ever actually do anything about this, do you? lees1975 Apr 2023 #35
well they're "doing something" about Donald Fucking Trump Skittles Apr 2023 #38
Abe Fortas was forced off the Supreme Court for less Vogon_Glory Apr 2023 #39
K & R malaise Apr 2023 #40

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
1. Reminds me of a line in
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 10:56 AM
Apr 2023
Enemy of the State

“Who will monitor the monitors.”

The answer … we, the people, will monitor the monitors.

jaxexpat

(6,848 posts)
2. That's an excuse commonly used by 2nd-A gun fetishes.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 11:12 AM
Apr 2023

Democracy has an irreparable problem when 1/3 of the electorate is willfully and blissfully ignorant while determined to reproduce their spawn.

KPN

(15,649 posts)
3. Yep. Ridiculous argument. Like "don't do anything about it because nothing will work"! Reminds me
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 11:26 AM
Apr 2023

of a placard my Dad had posted over the doorway inside his shop years ago: "Don't just do something, stand there!"

ShazzieB

(16,497 posts)
7. I never heard of this organization before.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 11:54 AM
Apr 2023

Still don't know much, but what I've learned so far, I like: https://campaignlegal.org/

Also, in case I'm not the only one not familiar with the Judicial Conference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_Conference_of_the_United_States

This particular action seems like a worthy endeavor. I just hope the J.C. doesn't blow it off, which they could easily do. The Campaign Legal Center sounds like an advocacy group thst is fighting the good fight, but they don't have any actual power.

Lonestarblue

(10,063 posts)
8. Those who wrote the Constitution got many things right and a few things wrong.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 11:55 AM
Apr 2023

Given where we are today, the 2nd Amendment should have clarified that the well-regulated militia was in place of a standing army. Past Congresses and states, though, should have amended or nullified this amendment long ago.

The Electoral College should not exist. Even at the time, it was to placate and give more power to rural areas.

The Constitution provides multiple ways to hold two branches of government accountable while giving almost no accountability for the Supreme Court. Yes, they can be impeached, but in practice that is close to impossible today so SC justices seem able to do whatever the wish because they can’t be removed. That needs to change. We need ways to hold every branch of government accountable.


getagrip_already

(14,834 posts)
9. a sternly worded letter...
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 12:01 PM
Apr 2023

That will surely get doj to launch an immediate investigation.

A press conference is iminent.

PuppyBismark

(595 posts)
10. What about the Income Tax He Sould Have Paid?
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 12:02 PM
Apr 2023

Gifts over $15,000 I think are taxable. He may owe years of back taxes.

I'm not a CPA so this may just be my wish to get him.

Zeitghost

(3,868 posts)
17. Gift taxes are not paid by the recipient
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 01:04 PM
Apr 2023

They are paid by the giver if they exceed certain thresholds.

LiberalFighter

(51,077 posts)
20. That needs to change.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 01:17 PM
Apr 2023

If it is by a parent to a child or grandchild for education or career. Then sure the parent should pay.

But if it is to someone that is not charity related beyond a threshold the recipient should pay taxes. On the whole amount.

Zeitghost

(3,868 posts)
23. Yes
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 02:30 PM
Apr 2023

I have yet to see evidence of bribes or even Crow having business before the court.

And would you really need to bribe Thomas to take a radical right wing position? Generally you need to bribe people to do things they would have already done for free.

Farmer-Rick

(10,207 posts)
31. Yeah, that's a common Right Wng talking point
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 06:24 PM
Apr 2023

"The Manhattan Institute, where Shapiro leads an amicus brief filing program lobbying the Supreme Court to rule certain ways on issues like student debt cancellation and corporate taxation, boasts Crows’ wife Kathy on its board of trustees and has been called “wonderful” by Crow himself."

"Shapiro filed a brief calling on the Supreme Court to review a case upholding the constitutionality of a one-time repatriation tax imposed on foreign earnings accumulated by foreign subsidiaries of U.S. companies"

https://truthout.org/articles/clarence-thomas-sold-3-properties-to-billionaire-crow-and-never-disclosed-it/

Every pro corporate ruling has benefited Crow. By stroking Clarance, Crow gets the court to crush the middle class and favor the filthy rich. How does that Not benefit Crow?

rickford66

(5,528 posts)
29. I believe the gifts have to add up to around a million bucks before taxes due
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 04:57 PM
Apr 2023

But only the yearly gift above a certain amount is added to the total. It used to be $10,000 / year. So you can give someone $10,000 per year forever without any tax due. $10,001 adds one dollar to the total which will be taxed when it adds up to one million. This is all from memory. I have had arguments about this and have looked it up a few times but not recently.

gab13by13

(21,401 posts)
14. I guarantee that an institutionalist
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 12:23 PM
Apr 2023

is not going to touch this with a 10 foot pole. As far as the IRS goes, it has ignored Trump for decades.

 

f_townsend

(260 posts)
16. That corrupt, hate-filled jerk will just claim it's "a high-tech lynching"
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 12:45 PM
Apr 2023

While regaling his rich white benefactors how he used his court position to gut the civil rights voting act.

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
18. Good
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 01:12 PM
Apr 2023

One thing we know: if he appeals the crime to the Supreme Court, he can't be counted on to recuse himself.

Mr.Bill

(24,318 posts)
27. If you had video of Thomas
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 04:24 PM
Apr 2023

chopping the heads off live new-born babies, republicans would not vote to impeach or remove him from office.

summer_in_TX

(2,748 posts)
30. They should amend their request in view of new information
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 06:18 PM
Apr 2023

Clarence Thomas's failure to disclose that Harlan Crow bought Thomas's property and adjacent properties belonging to Thomas's mother and brother.

That's clearly against the law, strengthening the complaint of ethics violations a lot.

Hassler

(3,390 posts)
32. This is only the Crooked Clarence crimes we know about.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:50 PM
Apr 2023

Imagine what an investigation will turn up.

wnylib

(21,602 posts)
33. Is an ethics violation a criminal violation?
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:12 PM
Apr 2023

Can a justice be charged with a crime for violating ethics?

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
34. US code makes willfully filing incorrect financial disclosures a felony punishable by up to one year
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 10:26 PM
Apr 2023

John Roberts is in charge of the executive branch of the Judicial Committe. I am sure he will get right on it.not.

wnylib

(21,602 posts)
36. Then if it's a felony - a crime - couldn't he be charged
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 10:32 PM
Apr 2023

by an AG or DA for a criminal offense? Don't know who would be the one to charge him.

Skittles

(153,185 posts)
38. well they're "doing something" about Donald Fucking Trump
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 12:25 AM
Apr 2023

so MAYBE there is hope for Clarence Fucking Thomas?

do I think they will spend time in prison? No fucking way. But at least they are being INCONVENIENCED and show-cased for the fucking grifting hypocrites they are

Vogon_Glory

(9,128 posts)
39. Abe Fortas was forced off the Supreme Court for less
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 06:55 AM
Apr 2023

Justice Abe Fortas was forced to resign from the Supreme Court for being far less compromised than Clarence Thomas. IOKALAYAR is not a valid defense.

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