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JPK

(971 posts)
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 03:03 PM Apr 2023

So...explain to me....

This Guard Airman exposes secrets, is arrested and will probably go to prison perhaps for a long time. And yet, our exprez gives Lavrov secret info and goodness knows who else. Steals top secret docs from the WH, he and Flynn and Pompeo still walk among us. There is no justice.

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So...explain to me.... (Original Post) JPK Apr 2023 OP
That's easy. There are two justice systems in America. MontanaMama Apr 2023 #1
Exactly claudette Apr 2023 #5
He won't. MontanaMama Apr 2023 #6
It's so claudette Apr 2023 #8
Absolutely true claudette Apr 2023 #2
Yeah, the guy who put away Timothy McVeigh is a coward ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #15
He's definitely proven he's more concerned about appearance than saving Democracy Marius25 Apr 2023 #21
Timothy McVeigh was not in a position of wealth and power. Autumn Apr 2023 #25
It's not claudette Apr 2023 #26
... lapucelle Apr 2023 #3
We are repeatedly told we are not smart enough to understand the US legal system. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #4
Nobody ever tells me that I am not smart enough to understand the US legal system. N/T lapucelle Apr 2023 #9
Good. I am glad. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #10
Nobody has said that ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #16
Yep a good example of how I am not smart enough for this to make one bit of sense. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #20
Es gut to be da king Kennah Apr 2023 #7
Oh, I don't know. The 21YO isn't TOO POWERFUL for the justice system Hortensis Apr 2023 #11
Or maybe the case has been in the system for a while ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #17
:) That too! As it is, tRump spent 7 hours answering questions Hortensis Apr 2023 #28
So they didn't have to spend several years investigating Mr.Bill Apr 2023 #12
Sounds like they did if it happened years ago ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #18
You are aware Garland let Trump get away with like 10 counts of obstruction right? Marius25 Apr 2023 #22
Yup. Sky Jewels Apr 2023 #13
Well, Flynn was pardoned Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #14
Do we have proof that Trump disclosed the documents he took from the WH? onenote Apr 2023 #19
Well, Trump did admit he took the documents and could make money off them Marius25 Apr 2023 #23
Most of what Trump says is bullshit. onenote Apr 2023 #24
Isn't there new now that claudette Apr 2023 #27

MontanaMama

(24,722 posts)
1. That's easy. There are two justice systems in America.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 03:05 PM
Apr 2023

One for the rich, well connected and powerful and another for the rest of us mortals.

MontanaMama

(24,722 posts)
6. He won't.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 03:15 PM
Apr 2023

The Chief Justice does not believe SCOTUS needs any oversight and he's said so.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
2. Absolutely true
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 03:08 PM
Apr 2023

Garland is a coward. Let’s hope Jack Smith has a spine. I think he does

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
15. Yeah, the guy who put away Timothy McVeigh is a coward
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:29 PM
Apr 2023

Do you have the faintest clue how insane that sounds?

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
21. He's definitely proven he's more concerned about appearance than saving Democracy
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:41 PM
Apr 2023

and the rule of law

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
25. Timothy McVeigh was not in a position of wealth and power.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 10:04 PM
Apr 2023
This fucking weekend warrior has an ex president and idiots in Congress on his side.
 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
26. It's not
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 07:15 AM
Apr 2023

insane. I’m just wondering why he wasn’t able do the same thing that Jack Smith is doing? Long ago. The same evidence is there.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
4. We are repeatedly told we are not smart enough to understand the US legal system.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 03:13 PM
Apr 2023

It is all a wondrous, very secret, long range 3D chess game.

We are mere mortals who do not possess this wisdom.
And not to question it.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
16. Nobody has said that
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:33 PM
Apr 2023

They're saying that there's the reality of a system that's always been slow and ponderous and that can be gamed by the rich...

And then there's throwing tantrums if you can't get what you want when you want it.

The federal court system doesn't turn on a dime, because it can't. It has long had a backlog to process, and that was before COVID threw a wrench into the system, then all those J6 participants flooding an already strained system. You do know that there are courts without the necessary number of judges adding to the backlog...right?

If there weren't plea deals, it would take a few years to get any case to trial. It's that backed up, and always has been.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
20. Yep a good example of how I am not smart enough for this to make one bit of sense.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:41 PM
Apr 2023

And on top of it, accused of having a temper tantrum when I'm not having a temper tantrum.

Yep if I were smarter it would all make perfect sense I am sure.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. Oh, I don't know. The 21YO isn't TOO POWERFUL for the justice system
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 03:24 PM
Apr 2023

that's facing off against extremely corrupted and traitorous, and enormously powerful RW forces to go right after. I wouldn't say there's no justice, only that it isn't applied as equally as it should be. And could be.

I'd like a count of how many who claim to believe in equality have justified not voting or throwing their vote away on a candidate who couldn't win by claiming there'd be no justice no matter what they did. Miserable hypocrites.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
17. Or maybe the case has been in the system for a while
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:34 PM
Apr 2023

And not talked about, because DOJ doesn't publicize what they're up to. Now we're hearing about it at the tail end of investigations and the rest.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. :) That too! As it is, tRump spent 7 hours answering questions
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 10:36 AM
Apr 2023

for NY AG Letitia James in one of the cases yesterday.

And to underline: NO to false-equating tRump's corrupt WH and tRump's corrupt DoJ with Biden's.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
12. So they didn't have to spend several years investigating
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 03:34 PM
Apr 2023

him to make sure they have an airtight case? Amazing how that works.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
18. Sounds like they did if it happened years ago
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:35 PM
Apr 2023

And now the gears are finally grinding fine.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
22. You are aware Garland let Trump get away with like 10 counts of obstruction right?
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:42 PM
Apr 2023

He ignored the Mueller findings and let the statute of limitations run out.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,236 posts)
14. Well, Flynn was pardoned
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 03:47 PM
Apr 2023

Don’t know what Pompeo would be charged with, and DOJ didn’t know of any missing docs until NARA alerted them to it in late 2021, after which they contacted Trump, and while attempting to retrieve the documents, also gave Trump the opportunity to incriminate himself for obstruction, and establish his knowledge and intent to commit the crimes.

As for his revelations to Lavrov, that should have been grounds for impeachment, but I don’t expect he will ever be criminally charged for those events.

onenote

(46,142 posts)
19. Do we have proof that Trump disclosed the documents he took from the WH?
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:38 PM
Apr 2023

Isn't that part of the investigation?

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
23. Well, Trump did admit he took the documents and could make money off them
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:44 PM
Apr 2023

on live TV

onenote

(46,142 posts)
24. Most of what Trump says is bullshit.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:46 PM
Apr 2023

I don't recall him saying he ever sold any of the documents, but if you have a link....

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