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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 04:57 PM Apr 2023

Gallup Poll of Party Affiliation

Do you consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat or an independent?

Democrat — 25%
Republican — 25%
INDEPENDENT — 49% (+13 from October 2020)

With Indy leaners:
GOP — 43%
DEM — 43%


https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx
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Gallup Poll of Party Affiliation (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2023 OP
1) We're doomed. 2) I wonder where that +13 mostly came from? Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2023 #1
mostly from Republicans Qutzupalotl Apr 2023 #6
OK, I'm still out on the ledge but I've inched closer back to the window. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2023 #18
Don't believe polls. Seriously. We know much of the MSM is corrupt Hortensis Apr 2023 #9
Exactly. 81M Dem voters in 2020. 74M repubican voters sure seems... brush Apr 2023 #11
Their "non-realized red tsunami." From these data Hortensis Apr 2023 #16
I figure indies split fairly evenly. Repugs should've won big... brush Apr 2023 #17
The Rethugs outvoted us in 2022 by 3 million. Popular US House vote: R - 54,506,136. D - 51,477,313 Celerity Apr 2023 #20
Why Gallup, aren't they a right-leaning org? brush Apr 2023 #2
References TheProle Apr 2023 #4
Gallup is one the oldest Polling firms in America. brooklynite Apr 2023 #5
Because of the 2020 election. 81M Dem voters vs 74M republicnans.... brush Apr 2023 #7
Because they are in Omaha or actually that weird part of Iowa DenaliDemocrat Apr 2023 #12
Yes We Can ProfessorGAC Apr 2023 #10
24% is not pretty close to 28% IMO. 4 points better equates... brush Apr 2023 #14
Yes, It Is ProfessorGAC Apr 2023 #19
IMO Gallup is well known to be a right-leaning outfit. Those figures shold be taken with several... brush Apr 2023 #24
What this means angrychair Apr 2023 #3
Gallup is right-leaning. Those figures are questionable. brush Apr 2023 #8
What is your source? friend of a friend Apr 2023 #13
Biden 81M votes in 2020, trump 74M. brush Apr 2023 #15
The takeaway from Biden's victory seem to be that he drew significant support Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #21
Interesting. NotVeryImportant Apr 2023 #22
Polls are funny. Igel Apr 2023 #23

Qutzupalotl

(15,823 posts)
6. mostly from Republicans
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 05:15 PM
Apr 2023

Rs lost 8 points, Ds lost 4 since October.

We're at a tipping point (dead even), but the trends are in our favor.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Don't believe polls. Seriously. We know much of the MSM is corrupt
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 05:26 PM
Apr 2023

and misusing their power to keep Republicans in power. They need to be able to quote polls and need them to say what...they need them to say.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
11. Exactly. 81M Dem voters in 2020. 74M repubican voters sure seems...
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 05:31 PM
Apr 2023

to say something...as does the non-realized red tsunami in 2022, a midterm election where the out of power party usually wins big.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Their "non-realized red tsunami." From these data
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 05:46 PM
Apr 2023

you might assume "indies" were just as likely to vote for banning all abortion nationwide, overthrowing democracy, and ending freedom of the internet as to vote in alarm to protect themselves from that.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
17. I figure indies split fairly evenly. Repugs should've won big...
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 05:53 PM
Apr 2023

in 2022 but we Dems gained a Senate seat and the repugs barely kept the House when they were expectling to win 30-40 seats.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
20. The Rethugs outvoted us in 2022 by 3 million. Popular US House vote: R - 54,506,136. D - 51,477,313
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 05:56 PM
Apr 2023


Also, closing in on 75% of Biden's 7 million popular vote winning margin came from ONE state (my state of registration, CA)

Biden won CA by over 5.1 million votes.





 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
5. Gallup is one the oldest Polling firms in America.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 05:11 PM
Apr 2023

Why would you assume an even split in voters isn't realistic?

Gallup, Inc. is an American analytics and advisory company based in Washington, D.C. Founded by George Gallup in 1935, the company became known for its public opinion polls conducted worldwide. Starting in the 1980s, Gallup transitioned its business to focus on providing analytics and management consulting to organizations globally. In addition to its analytics, management consulting, and Gallup Poll, the company also offers educational consulting, the CliftonStrengths assessment and associated products, and business and management books published by its Gallup Press unit.


 

brush

(61,033 posts)
7. Because of the 2020 election. 81M Dem voters vs 74M republicnans....
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 05:23 PM
Apr 2023

and the rampant gerrymander in many states is why I don't think the country is split evenly between Democrats and republicans voters.

IMO Gallup is not the organization we should put our trust in. It's long been known as a right-leaning poller.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,777 posts)
12. Because they are in Omaha or actually that weird part of Iowa
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 05:33 PM
Apr 2023

That is on the wrong side of the River but the state is redder than Alaska and full of trad Catholics who send their kids to Creighton Prep. How about that?

ProfessorGAC

(76,702 posts)
10. Yes We Can
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 05:30 PM
Apr 2023

Our purely social statistics matters, where the questions asked are hard to create "pull" they have reliable numbers.
Pew last summer or fall, showed R = 24%, D = 28%, 48% I.
So, it's pretty close to the same result.
Two different firms, nearly identical figures.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
14. 24% is not pretty close to 28% IMO. 4 points better equates...
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 05:39 PM
Apr 2023

to won elections with indies split evenly.

For instance, in 2020 Dems had 81M votes, republicans had 74M, that's a 7 point difference and it put Biden in the WH.

ProfessorGAC

(76,702 posts)
19. Yes, It Is
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 05:54 PM
Apr 2023

In a social survey using sampling, 26% +/-2% is quite good.
It's a less than 8% difference. That's a reasonably small sampling error.
And, it's silly to compare votes to sampled statistics. You are comparing a sample to a whole population.
It's particularly weak given that Biden's win of around 8 million votes out of 150 million plus is already >5%.
So, it doesn't take much to see that those independent leanings shifted toward Biden. It's easy to believe that many independents were voting to launch TFG. In another election, some might lean the other way.
I really am not going to argue statistics because you don't like the result. I have decades of statistical & mathematical analysis under my belt.
I have nothing to prove. You can trust me or not.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
24. IMO Gallup is well known to be a right-leaning outfit. Those figures shold be taken with several...
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 11:44 PM
Apr 2023

grains of salt. There are other polling outfits that would should distinctly different breakdowns.

Gallup? No, just no.

angrychair

(12,284 posts)
3. What this means
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 05:04 PM
Apr 2023

Is our country is doomed.

Given that even split it means that half the country is actually as it appears: antisemitic, racist, misogynistic and bigoted asshats.

These are irreconcilable differences.

These are dark times and if I'm being perfectly honest I do not see our country surviving the decade.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
21. The takeaway from Biden's victory seem to be that he drew significant support
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 05:58 PM
Apr 2023

from the independant voters who Gallup suggest lean 43% GOP/ 43% DEM.

Democrats win when we run a candidate with broad appeal, especially when the Republican alternative is cray-cray.



Igel

(37,535 posts)
23. Polls are funny.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 07:29 PM
Apr 2023

It's a commonplace that if a president is popular, two years into his term more say voted for him than votes tallied during the election tally. And if the president is uncommon, fewer voted for him, in retrospect, than votes count.

If a president goes from popular to unpopular (or vice-versa) then the people who are sure they voted for him increases and decreases (or vice-versa).

Identity is very, very fluid, in this case.

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