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In It to Win It

(12,648 posts)
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 05:29 PM Apr 2023

Wow: Judge Thomas Rice issues a new order compelling the FDA to preserve access to mifepristone

Mark Joseph Stern
@mjs_DC
Wow: Judge Thomas Rice issues a new order compelling the FDA to preserve access to mifepristone in 17 states and D.C.—without any of the old obstacles—"irrespective of" the 5th Circuit's decision.

We have a direct conflict. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.waed.102225/gov.uscourts.waed.102225.91.0.pdf







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Wow: Judge Thomas Rice issues a new order compelling the FDA to preserve access to mifepristone (Original Post) In It to Win It Apr 2023 OP
The board is set. The pieces are moving. WheelWalker Apr 2023 #1
HUR...RAH Me. Apr 2023 #2
B/c Kacsmaryk's order wasn't in effect when Rice ruled, Rice rules today, he had jurisdiction and Cha Apr 2023 #18
I Keep Hearing About Who Has Standing In This Matter Me. Apr 2023 #20
I know.. I was thinking about Cha Apr 2023 #21
Yeah, this look like it will be a quick trip to the SC....and that will be a shitshow. Thomas Hurt Apr 2023 #3
It will be up to Roberts and Kavanaugh, and I do not feel confident in those two at all JohnSJ Apr 2023 #4
I feel more confident in those two than a 5th Circuit panel In It to Win It Apr 2023 #5
That isn't saying much JohnSJ Apr 2023 #9
You're right about that 🤣 In It to Win It Apr 2023 #10
but it is better than no hope at all, so you are right JohnSJ Apr 2023 #11
Freepers are disgusted with Kavanaugh and Roberts Kaleva Apr 2023 #7
Why Barrett? She delivered for them. In It to Win It Apr 2023 #12
They think of her the same way a lot of Dems think about Manchin. BlueCheeseAgain Apr 2023 #14
+1 Kaleva Apr 2023 #26
Right.. the only real Cons Cha Apr 2023 #22
Rice's order applies to the following: Kaleva Apr 2023 #6
TY Cha Apr 2023 #24
We really should rename the country to "The States of America" Marius25 Apr 2023 #8
This is Heading into Strange Days Beetwasher. Apr 2023 #19
I read Sen Ron Wyden told Pres Biden Cha Apr 2023 #25
I too Trust Biden Will Do What Needs to Be Done Beetwasher. Apr 2023 #27
Agreed.. Pres Biden is a Cha Apr 2023 #28
Not anymore if ever.. it's Cha Apr 2023 #23
They have to do something about forum shopping. BlueCheeseAgain Apr 2023 #13
Hear, hear peppertree Apr 2023 #16
I like it republianmushroom Apr 2023 #15
B/c Kacsmaryk's order wasn't in effect when Rice ruled, Rice rules today, he had jurisdiction and Cha Apr 2023 #17

Cha

(319,067 posts)
18. B/c Kacsmaryk's order wasn't in effect when Rice ruled, Rice rules today, he had jurisdiction and
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 07:29 PM
Apr 2023

Me.

(35,454 posts)
20. I Keep Hearing About Who Has Standing In This Matter
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:14 PM
Apr 2023

as far as I'm concerned, until they can give birth, no man has any standing in this matter.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
21. I know.. I was thinking about
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:30 PM
Apr 2023

that pompous ass Texas judge needs to butt Out.

But good on Judge Thomas Rice, tho tying to fix it!

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
4. It will be up to Roberts and Kavanaugh, and I do not feel confident in those two at all
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 05:58 PM
Apr 2023

In It to Win It

(12,648 posts)
5. I feel more confident in those two than a 5th Circuit panel
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 06:03 PM
Apr 2023

Last edited Thu Apr 13, 2023, 06:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
7. Freepers are disgusted with Kavanaugh and Roberts
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 06:05 PM
Apr 2023

They consider the two, along with Barrett, to be fake conservatives.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,983 posts)
14. They think of her the same way a lot of Dems think about Manchin.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 06:36 PM
Apr 2023

She's not always with them, so she may as well be a flaming liberal, in their view.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
22. Right.. the only real Cons
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:33 PM
Apr 2023

are Tax Cheat & Bribed Thomas & the rest of the Horror show.

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
6. Rice's order applies to the following:
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 06:03 PM
Apr 2023

"His order applies to Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Washington state and the District of Columbia."

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/13/abortion-pill-mifepristone-court-ruling-doesnt-affect-17-states-ag-says.html

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
8. We really should rename the country to "The States of America"
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 06:05 PM
Apr 2023

There is nothing United about this country at all.

Beetwasher.

(3,178 posts)
19. This is Heading into Strange Days
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 07:33 PM
Apr 2023

It may be coming to a point where Biden may need some real fortitude to say enough and let the courts enforce certain things. I can’t see how he could let a clearly unconstitutional breach like a court ordered federal ban on an approved drug stand. Hopefully smarter people than me are making contingencies because I’ll be fucked if I’d know what to do. Yeesh what a fuckin nightmare.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
25. I read Sen Ron Wyden told Pres Biden
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:45 PM
Apr 2023

to Ignore it as not being Lawful. Imagine that.. a Con judge not following the Rule of Law.

I think Pres Biden has the Fortitude to do what's necessary.

Wyden to President Biden and FDA after Texas Ruling: Ignore Any Ban, Keep Mifepristone on the Market

https://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/press-releases/wyden-to-president-biden-and-fda-after-texas-ruling-ignore-any-ban-keep-mifepristone-on-the-market

Beetwasher.

(3,178 posts)
27. I too Trust Biden Will Do What Needs to Be Done
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 09:04 AM
Apr 2023

But he's being forced into some real pickles by these cretins, I'm grateful we've got a brilliant statesman at the helm, but I feel for him, the weight of the world on his shoulders, you know it's not easy for him.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
28. Agreed.. Pres Biden is a
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 03:32 PM
Apr 2023

Brilliant Statesman and truly amazing how he can juggle so many issues & crises at once.

And, all for the betterment of our country and planet.. all the while having Forces of Pure Evil trying to take him down.

It obviously Helps that he has the advantage of all those years of Experience in the Senate & in the Obama WH.. and now as President.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,983 posts)
13. They have to do something about forum shopping.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 06:35 PM
Apr 2023

This case had nothing to do with that particular district in Texas. They filed it there, knowing this judge was the only one there and so they could get it in front of him. The same thing happened with getting Cannon in the Trump documents case, though at least she's in Florida.

For cases like this, maybe they can randomly give it to any federal judge in the country.

peppertree

(23,336 posts)
16. Hear, hear
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 06:51 PM
Apr 2023

Foreign vulture funds are probably the most egregious abusers of the forum shopping scam - filing sham lawsuits not in their tax haven domiciles; but in Lower Manhattan, where they know that their victims' bondholders could be easily held hostage.

And they can usually find some Repug appointee willing to play ball (for a price, probably).

Cha

(319,067 posts)
17. B/c Kacsmaryk's order wasn't in effect when Rice ruled, Rice rules today, he had jurisdiction and
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 07:25 PM
Apr 2023


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