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Miles Archer

(24,328 posts)
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:12 PM Apr 2023

I see two options for Clarence. Is there a third?

I see only one of two things happening.

1). He lives out the rest of his life in his lifetime SCOTUS appointment, enjoying yearly R.V. vacations in the WalMart parking lot

2). Democrats eventually have enough seats in Congress for the majority required to impeach him.

I don't acknowledge "Roberts doing something about him" as an option, because the saga just keeps getting worse, and Roberts is more silent than a mime trying to find his way around that invisible wall.

IS THERE a third possibility?

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I see two options for Clarence. Is there a third? (Original Post) Miles Archer Apr 2023 OP
I really wish he would be held accountable in a meaningful way. Arthur_Frain Apr 2023 #1
I don't see Roberts doing A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G... Miles Archer Apr 2023 #6
Let's play "If I were Roberts" Effete Snob Apr 2023 #17
Seppuku would be nice, but that requires something which he does not possess. niyad Apr 2023 #2
I love your way of thinking... fierywoman Apr 2023 #14
Thank you! niyad Apr 2023 #24
He drops dead and Biden appoints a new justice? Scottie Mom Apr 2023 #3
That's possible, but... Miles Archer Apr 2023 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #30
Pressured to resign; ostracized by Crowe and other former supporters Sanity Claws Apr 2023 #4
The problem with people like crow MOMFUDSKI Apr 2023 #11
They don't like being in the news Sanity Claws Apr 2023 #27
Yes, the DoJ acting orthoclad Apr 2023 #5
the right emissary is sent to tell him it's time to go. mopinko Apr 2023 #7
"1, but he drops the Walmart shtick keeps taking enormous payoffs from billionaires" seems RockRaven Apr 2023 #8
True. Although he can't do anything about impeachment if Dems had the votes. Miles Archer Apr 2023 #12
The "Roberts Court" will go down as corrupt and illegal in the eyes of more than 50% of the voters. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2023 #10
Do you think they care about "legacy"? orthoclad Apr 2023 #16
Wtf is Roberts supposed to do? Effete Snob Apr 2023 #13
It gets pointed out here every time as well but people still run with it. Ace Rothstein Apr 2023 #18
So weird Effete Snob Apr 2023 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #33
They can put it on PPV and donate the proceeds to charity. Ace Rothstein Apr 2023 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #36
Under Sup. Ct. Rule 32(c)(i)... Effete Snob Apr 2023 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #40
He resigns under pressure of Senate Committee investigations and Sneederbunk Apr 2023 #15
What should happen. pandr32 Apr 2023 #29
This Will Not Happen RobinA Apr 2023 #50
That is it. Unless the D's have enough votes on their own to impeach, he aint going anywhere Eliot Rosewater Apr 2023 #19
Just keep putting the pressure on him. The other supporters on the court push him to resign. LiberalFighter Apr 2023 #20
I think there is a third option of their being enough pressure and ongoing disclosure that Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #22
We mock him relentlessly. We keep his name in the news for these transgressions. Earth-shine Apr 2023 #23
If New York didn't strike down our maps, we'd have the House Marius25 Apr 2023 #25
And after the house impeached him, the Senate would acquit him onenote Apr 2023 #32
Maybe, just maybe...the MASH theme song could be something that... Enter stage left Apr 2023 #26
Yes. Find a criminal statute he violated CanonRay Apr 2023 #28
He spends time in jail and issues his SC decisions from there. Hassler Apr 2023 #31
Expand the court ThoughtCriminal Apr 2023 #34
Is direct prosecution an option? Or do we go through this Barr crapola about not being able to lees1975 Apr 2023 #38
Last paragraph is most likely to succeed if tried. wnylib Apr 2023 #45
Expand the court to 13. Samrob Apr 2023 #39
There isn't a second possibility. brooklynite Apr 2023 #41
It's cute you think anything will change including the perks Arazi Apr 2023 #42
After Reading All Items Herein :: Your Option (1) Is Most Likely (n/t) Ahna KneeMoose Apr 2023 #43
Same As It Always Was DET Apr 2023 #44
Hunting trip with the Cheney's. usonian Apr 2023 #46
A late entry winner! Effete Snob Apr 2023 #47
The Thomas's don't care Buckeyeblue Apr 2023 #48
Weaknesses in our system Johnny2X2X Apr 2023 #49

Arthur_Frain

(2,406 posts)
1. I really wish he would be held accountable in a meaningful way.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:13 PM
Apr 2023

I don’t believe he will be though.

Miles Archer

(24,328 posts)
6. I don't see Roberts doing A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G...
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:15 PM
Apr 2023

...and, short of that, there IS no remedy other than impeachment. At least none that I'm aware of, hence my post. It's like asking the foxes to find out why eggs keep disappearing from the hen house.

Miles Archer

(24,328 posts)
9. That's possible, but...
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:17 PM
Apr 2023

...I'm thinking more in terms of what can be done while he's still among us.

Response to Scottie Mom (Reply #3)

Sanity Claws

(22,440 posts)
4. Pressured to resign; ostracized by Crowe and other former supporters
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:14 PM
Apr 2023

Crowe does not like all this attention to his bribery. Clarence will find himself standing alone, feeling ostracized, and finally resigning.

 

MOMFUDSKI

(7,080 posts)
11. The problem with people like crow
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:19 PM
Apr 2023

is that they don't care what anyone thinks because they are untouchable. That is how the upper .5% roll.

orthoclad

(4,818 posts)
5. Yes, the DoJ acting
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:15 PM
Apr 2023

on the criminal referral sent to it according to an earlier post today.

Oops. Did I say "DoJ acting"?

mopinko

(73,935 posts)
7. the right emissary is sent to tell him it's time to go.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:17 PM
Apr 2023

or we take a real close look at a whole lot of stuff, including your wife.
joe should offer him a nixon style pardon. i dont usually approve of such things, but at this point i’d like to see 1 branch of govt not mired in protracted legal bullshit.

question is who to send.

RockRaven

(19,753 posts)
8. "1, but he drops the Walmart shtick keeps taking enormous payoffs from billionaires" seems
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:17 PM
Apr 2023

the most likely. Who is going to stop him, realistically?

Miles Archer

(24,328 posts)
12. True. Although he can't do anything about impeachment if Dems had the votes.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:19 PM
Apr 2023

Thay's why I basically split it between that and what you said.

I think that, unchecked, he'll only become more arrogant.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,605 posts)
10. The "Roberts Court" will go down as corrupt and illegal in the eyes of more than 50% of the voters.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:17 PM
Apr 2023

This will be his legacy. Or yeah, "Citizen's United"....that helped our democracy.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
13. Wtf is Roberts supposed to do?
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:26 PM
Apr 2023

The voodoo some people believe is amazing. The Constitution is a pretty quick read.

Ace Rothstein

(3,378 posts)
18. It gets pointed out here every time as well but people still run with it.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:27 PM
Apr 2023

The Chief Justice isn't the boss of the rest of the Supreme Court.

Response to Effete Snob (Reply #13)

Response to Ace Rothstein (Reply #35)

Response to Effete Snob (Reply #37)

Sneederbunk

(17,640 posts)
15. He resigns under pressure of Senate Committee investigations and
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:27 PM
Apr 2023

the prosecution of his wife for her crimes.

pandr32

(14,307 posts)
29. What should happen.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:53 PM
Apr 2023

Or he could muster up the courage to resign even sooner, but then no more vacations and his mom would probably be put out on the street.

RobinA

(10,478 posts)
50. This Will Not Happen
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 12:21 PM
Apr 2023

The man somehow weathered the Anita Hill mess, something he congratulates himself for every day of his life. But sitting there at the hearings, one look at him would have told you he wasn't a quitter. And that would have been an unbearable embarrassment to most sane people. He's spent his entire career in the spotlight as the proverbial immovable object. He's not going to quit over some fancy financial footwork.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,296 posts)
19. That is it. Unless the D's have enough votes on their own to impeach, he aint going anywhere
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:28 PM
Apr 2023

Cons are anti America, so they wont cooperate.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
20. Just keep putting the pressure on him. The other supporters on the court push him to resign.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:29 PM
Apr 2023

Ask the question. What have the other justices done that is improper or illegal? Ask that of those in his camp. Keep putting heat on them.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
22. I think there is a third option of their being enough pressure and ongoing disclosure that
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:29 PM
Apr 2023

lead Thomas to resign.

Not suggesting it is the likeliest scenario, as the mans seems shameless, but the glare of ongoing revelations and public attention could get to be too much.

A man can dream.

 

Earth-shine

(4,044 posts)
23. We mock him relentlessly. We keep his name in the news for these transgressions.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:31 PM
Apr 2023

We say to the voters, this corruption is what you get when Republicans have power.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
25. If New York didn't strike down our maps, we'd have the House
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:31 PM
Apr 2023

and we could impeach Thomas.

That's what happens when we try to play fair while the other side cheats.

onenote

(46,228 posts)
32. And after the house impeached him, the Senate would acquit him
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:56 PM
Apr 2023

since it requires 2/3 vote to convict.

Enter stage left

(4,635 posts)
26. Maybe, just maybe...the MASH theme song could be something that...
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 08:32 PM
Apr 2023

saves this country from a VERY ugly confrontation between those who have ethics, and those who HATE ethics.

There has never (In my very uneducated estimation) been someone so devoid of ethics as Clarence Thomas and his wife.

If we are going to save this country and democracy, and he refuses to step down, and the rePuqs refuse to impeach, then the MASH theme song could save us.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,754 posts)
34. Expand the court
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:03 PM
Apr 2023

Bring in some new justices that do not tolerate un-ethical behavior and adopt rules that frankly, I do not think the current GOP appointees will be able to handle.

Not happening while the GOP has any ability to obstruct.

lees1975

(7,190 posts)
38. Is direct prosecution an option? Or do we go through this Barr crapola about not being able to
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:12 PM
Apr 2023

indict sitting office holders. Otherwise, indict his ass. Put him on trial. Since he is a prominent personage, we should have him convicted and jailed by, oh, somewhere around 2040.

Frankly, though I don't like the process, indict his wife and make a deal that involves his resignation from the court.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
41. There isn't a second possibility.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:18 PM
Apr 2023

Even if there were enough House. It’s to Impeach him, there would never be 2/3 of the Senate to remove him.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
42. It's cute you think anything will change including the perks
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:34 PM
Apr 2023

There’s no penalty for this.

Thomas is going to keep on accepting bribes until he dies.

DET

(2,600 posts)
44. Same As It Always Was
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 09:57 PM
Apr 2023

Even republicans have to recognize how bad this looks. Start out easy with some internal admonishment and nudging by the other SC justices. When that doesn’t make a dent, Crow and whoever else is bribing Clarence drop their support and make clear that it’s time to go. Next, up the ante with some stern warnings of ‘investigations’ into Clarence and his wife. Follow up with some actual investigations. He may be so fed up with the scrutiny at that point that he reluctantly resigns to ‘spend more time with his family’.

Buckeyeblue

(6,439 posts)
48. The Thomas's don't care
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 11:39 AM
Apr 2023

The fact that all this is coming out enhances their standing in the crazy fascist world. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Ginni's fee just went up.

Republicans refuse to hold each other accountable.

Johnny2X2X

(24,435 posts)
49. Weaknesses in our system
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 11:44 AM
Apr 2023

SCOTUS was always something considered to be beyond reproach. There are few if any hecks and balances on their behavior because the founders didn't think they'd need them because only the best among us with the highest character would ascend to this position.

Thomas is ike Trump in a way, when you have zero checks and balances, you end up with total and complete corruption.

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