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Bye bye Uncle Thomas (Original Post) malaise Apr 2023 OP
Don't tease me Mal. FalloutShelter Apr 2023 #1
I'll believe THAT when I seen it. dchill Apr 2023 #2
"Clear as day" Deuxcents Apr 2023 #3
He's not going anywhere. There is literally no way to remove him Marius25 Apr 2023 #4
just wondering here, but IF he was tried, convicted, and sent to prison, how could he still be a Celerity Apr 2023 #11
Even if you could get an indictment Zeitghost Apr 2023 #39
Then make it something else. I was asking what IF a SCOTUS Justice is sent to prison? Celerity Apr 2023 #44
Yes FBaggins Apr 2023 #52
Prison we can do it Apr 2023 #19
Congress can't even pass ethics laws for them, gab13by13 Apr 2023 #5
Lawrence O and Sheldon Whitehouse agreed CT has broken a law spooky3 Apr 2023 #7
Precisely malaise Apr 2023 #9
Right. H2O Man Apr 2023 #30
was that tonight? what time does his show rerun? nt orleans Apr 2023 #35
Check #31 malaise Apr 2023 #48
Being that it is only the senate that votes in sitting Judges, can they also Bev54 Apr 2023 #25
no. onenote Apr 2023 #32
But they can vote in Biden's cilla4progress Apr 2023 #38
Any requirements on the Supreme Court Zeitghost Apr 2023 #40
And what does enforcing that law look like? FBaggins Apr 2023 #59
Republicans don't give one shit about the law. Just look at Trump. hadEnuf Apr 2023 #27
I hope you're right. Nt spooky3 Apr 2023 #6
I wish I could believe it leftieNanner Apr 2023 #8
He broke the effin' law malaise Apr 2023 #10
The problem is that the law is pretty toothless; nothing you'd go to prison for. Ocelot II Apr 2023 #17
So? FBaggins Apr 2023 #53
It is a lifelong habit of mine to watch the network evening news. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #12
Nice input malaise Apr 2023 #15
IF you're right who will replace him ? Beachnutt Apr 2023 #13
Biden dweller Apr 2023 #16
But only leftieNanner Apr 2023 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #42
I sure hope so. 2naSalit Apr 2023 #14
There's no way you're getting 67 senators to convict on an impeachment charge. Beautiful Disaster Apr 2023 #18
The best we can hope for is he'll resign calguy Apr 2023 #20
...let alone getting the House GOPhers to impeach.... lastlib Apr 2023 #23
Never will happen, he's not going anywhere. dem4decades Apr 2023 #22
From Senator Whitehouse LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #24
good to know - thanks nt spooky3 Apr 2023 #26
From the Last Word LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #31
Yeah.. you Snooze you Lose Cha Apr 2023 #36
He's not going to resign. He has a chip on his shoulder the size of the rock of Gibraltar... Princess Turandot Apr 2023 #28
I think it will take a Whitewater/Benghazi level inquiry to have any impact Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #29
I hope at least Corrupted Uncle Cha Apr 2023 #33
I'm sure they are both malaise Apr 2023 #47
I sure hope you're right, malaise! ShazzieB Apr 2023 #34
I think so, cilla4progress Apr 2023 #37
Nothing but an impeachment, which the Republican House will never vote for... Silent3 Apr 2023 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #43
Oh, we can try, maybe even send a message that way... Silent3 Apr 2023 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #46
Obvious as a 4-pound pubic hair. Kid Berwyn Apr 2023 #49
ROFL malaise Apr 2023 #51
Clarence Thomas' Lost South Africa Connection Kid Berwyn Apr 2023 #55
Oh, I didn't know this. Not a good look, Clarence! electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #56
Thanks for this malaise Apr 2023 #65
One thing about Clarence Thomas et ux: They're consistent. Paladin Apr 2023 #54
After seeing Paris, it's hard to go back on the farm. Kid Berwyn Apr 2023 #58
Lol, I think I'll hold off on going to the bank just yet. BlackSkimmer Apr 2023 #50
It's time for him to find out ... it REALLY IS time! FakeNoose Apr 2023 #57
The pressure needs to kept on him. Break every bone. LiberalFighter Apr 2023 #60
Not happening JustAnotherGen Apr 2023 #61
+1 n/t area51 Apr 2023 #63
if only clarence the sleeper agent would quit wasting resources. niyad Apr 2023 #62
So why is this criminal not behind bars? bif Apr 2023 #64

Celerity

(43,533 posts)
11. just wondering here, but IF he was tried, convicted, and sent to prison, how could he still be a
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 10:33 PM
Apr 2023

SCOTUS Justice?

Would he vote on cases from prison?

The US Constitution has too many long wave ticking time bombs for the union of the States to survive until 2050. It probably starts to atomise long before that.

Zeitghost

(3,869 posts)
39. Even if you could get an indictment
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 12:44 AM
Apr 2023

And a conviction which would be a miracle in and of itself. Nobody is going to prison over inaccurate public disclosure forms.

Celerity

(43,533 posts)
44. Then make it something else. I was asking what IF a SCOTUS Justice is sent to prison?
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 01:07 AM
Apr 2023

I they are not impeached and then convicted and removed, do they work from prison?

That is what I was asking.

FBaggins

(26,760 posts)
52. Yes
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 08:22 AM
Apr 2023

The only way to remove him from the court is impeachment.

I doubt that he would have to operate from prison, but even were that to happen he would still be on the court unless and until he was impeached and removed

spooky3

(34,481 posts)
7. Lawrence O and Sheldon Whitehouse agreed CT has broken a law
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 10:29 PM
Apr 2023

And that it’s very clearcut. If so no law must be passed. The existing law must be enforced.

H2O Man

(73,622 posts)
30. Right.
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 12:08 AM
Apr 2023

It's up to the DOJ. In other times, the House would impeach, and the Senate convict and remove him. But at this point, it is up to the DOJ.

Bev54

(10,072 posts)
25. Being that it is only the senate that votes in sitting Judges, can they also
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 11:16 PM
Apr 2023

write the ethics without the house approval? The house has nothing else to do with Judges.

FBaggins

(26,760 posts)
59. And what does enforcing that law look like?
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 09:13 AM
Apr 2023

He appears to have inherited one-half of one-third of his grandparents' home decades ago when his grandfather passed away. Given the reported sale price and the time involved... his profit might have been a couple thousand dollars on the sale.

Nobody has claimed that he failed to pay any required taxes or that the billionaire funneled tons of cash to him in excess of what the property was worth. The law he appears to have violated was that he failed to report it.

Ok - are there prosecutions for that offense? What penalty is associated with a successful prosecution?

malaise

(269,174 posts)
10. He broke the effin' law
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 10:32 PM
Apr 2023

There is a clear law re property. Bye bye uncle Thomas- good effin riddance.

Ocelot II

(115,858 posts)
17. The problem is that the law is pretty toothless; nothing you'd go to prison for.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 10:43 PM
Apr 2023

What we really need is disclosure laws with big, sharp, teeth. As far as I can tell, there are currently no felony disclosure laws. If all he can be busted for is what's basically a misdemeanor, the fact that what he did was absolutely egregious and despicably dishonest and unethical won't make much difference.

FBaggins

(26,760 posts)
53. So?
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 08:32 AM
Apr 2023

Seriously - despite the claims in the video, it’s hardly the only time that a judge has violated the law.

Violations range from jaywalking to murder. This isn’t one that plausibly results in “bye bye CT” no matter how much gravity the host adds to his voice

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
12. It is a lifelong habit of mine to watch the network evening news.
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 10:33 PM
Apr 2023

As a little kid I watched Huntley-Brinkley, and sometimes Cronkite.

Helps me get a feel for the stories that are getting covered outside the cable news bubble.

Pretty damning report tonight on ABC's World News Tonight w/David Muir. Led off the show.

The heat is definitely being turned up on Clarence Thomas.

Decades too late, but he seems to be in real trouble.

Response to leftieNanner (Reply #21)

calguy

(5,326 posts)
20. The best we can hope for is he'll resign
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 10:48 PM
Apr 2023

But the man has no shame, and his republican puppet masters won't allow him to resign with a Democratic President and Senate.

So in the end, ain't nothing gonna happen.

Cha

(297,692 posts)
36. Yeah.. you Snooze you Lose
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 12:33 AM
Apr 2023

Chief Justice Roberts.

TY & Sen Whitehouse!

FAFO uncle thomas & tea bag ginni.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
28. He's not going to resign. He has a chip on his shoulder the size of the rock of Gibraltar...
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 11:31 PM
Apr 2023

- that he shares with Alito - dating back to his confirmation hearings.

Even if impeached, there aren't enough Senate Republicans to get the 66 votes needed to convict/remove him. I don't think there are enough Rs who would vote to convict and remove him even if he was first convicted of a felony in a criminal court.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,657 posts)
29. I think it will take a Whitewater/Benghazi level inquiry to have any impact
Thu Apr 13, 2023, 11:52 PM
Apr 2023

On Thomas’s benefactors.

I think a select senate investigation committee should make Clarence and Ginni so radioactive that his Nazi pal, or anyone else, wont even treat him to a Starbucks latte.

Then make a criminal referral to DOJ…

Cha

(297,692 posts)
33. I hope at least Corrupted Uncle
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 12:18 AM
Apr 2023

Thomas & Ugly ginni are sweating puddles in their laps of Luxury.



It would be Justice.

ShazzieB

(16,529 posts)
34. I sure hope you're right, malaise!
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 12:18 AM
Apr 2023

I'm afraid to get my hopes up just yet, but I do like the direction this is heading in!

Silent3

(15,273 posts)
41. Nothing but an impeachment, which the Republican House will never vote for...
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 12:46 AM
Apr 2023

...would get rid of Thomas.

If we regain the House and keep the Senate next election, no way we'll reach 2/3 to remove Thomas in the Senate.

If you think he can be shamed into resigning, I want some of what you're smoking.

Response to Silent3 (Reply #41)

Silent3

(15,273 posts)
45. Oh, we can try, maybe even send a message that way...
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 01:21 AM
Apr 2023

...but that's not at all the same thing as saying "Bye bye Uncle Thomas" like there's actually any realistic chance of Thomas resigning or being forcibly ousted.

I'm long past having any hope of Republican's joining Democrats when it's merely the right thing to do if what's needed would diminish Republican power or upset "the base".

Response to Silent3 (Reply #45)

Kid Berwyn

(14,964 posts)
49. Obvious as a 4-pound pubic hair.
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 08:11 AM
Apr 2023

The NAZI buff financed a millionaire lifestyle for Long Dong Silver.



Historic.

Kid Berwyn

(14,964 posts)
55. Clarence Thomas' Lost South Africa Connection
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 08:57 AM
Apr 2023

Inquiring minds need to know…



Missed connections and forgotten history from before Clarence Thomas ascended to the Supreme Court:



Judge Thomas's South Africa Connection Needs Clarification

Opinion / LTTE
The New York Times

To the Editor:

Judge Clarence Thomas, President Bush's Supreme Court nominee, has had a disturbing record of affiliations and joint activities with lobbyists for the South African Government, which Congress should explore in his confirmation hearings. The most important of these lobbyists are Jay Parker and William Keyes. According to filings with the Department of Justice, Mr. Parker was registered as an agent of South Africa's Transkei bantustan, or tribal homeland, in 1977-78 and was the official agent of another South African bantustan, Venda, 1981-85. In 1985, Mr. Parker and Mr. Keyes incorporated International Public Affairs Consultants, registered as a lobbying agency for the South African Government, receiving $360,000 a year, plus expenses.

In 1977-78, when Mr. Parker first served as a South African agent, he organized the Lincoln Institute for Research and Education, which issued the quarterly Lincoln Review. The institute and review have consistently attacked the African National Congress, sanctions against South Africa and the United States civil rights movement's leadership and ideas.

Mr. Parker and Clarence Thomas served on the Reagan-Bush transition team for the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, of which Mr. Thomas became commissioner in June 1982. Since 1981, Mr. Thomas has been listed as an editorial advisory board member of Mr. Parker's Lincoln Review. Mr. Keyes has been a contributing editor. Registration filings under the heading "political propaganda" show International Public Affairs Consultants held a reception for its South African client's Ambassador in 1987, when Pretoria was vigorously fighting sanctions. Mr. Thomas, then E.E.O.C. chairman, was listed as in attendance.

In 1984, Mr. Keyes organized Black PAC, Mr. Parker serving as treasurer. This political-action committee worked hard for the re-election of Senator Jesse Helms in 1984, while strongly opposing the "terrorist outlaw" African National Congress and "extremists" like Jesse Jackson and the Congressional Black Caucus.

In June 1987, the conservative weekly Human Events reported that the leaders of Black PAC were holding a strategy meeting that month "to plan for the important political battles being waged in Congress," those to attend including Clarence Pendleton, President Reagan's chairman of the Civil Rights Commission, and Clarence Thomas of the E.E.O.C.

It is not certain that these two top black officials in the Reagan Administration attended the strategy meeting that was organized by two paid lobbyists for a foreign (and racist) government, but this is something that the confirmation hearings should clarify.

EDWARD S. HERMAN
Narberth, Pa., Aug. 29, 1991

The writer (was) professor emeritus of finance, Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania.
A version of this article appears in print on Sept. 8, 1991, Section

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/1991/09/08/opinion/l-judge-thomas-s-south-africa-connection-needs-clarification-858891.html



That’s some of the missing historical context on Clarence Thomas, Esq.

Kid Berwyn

(14,964 posts)
58. After seeing Paris, it's hard to go back on the farm.
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 09:05 AM
Apr 2023

A couple develop tastes for the finer things, like the Michaela Rose



The Haves and the Have-Yachts

Luxury ships attract outrage and political scrutiny. The ultra-rich are buying them in record numbers.


By Evan Osnos
The New Yorker, July 18, 2022

In the Victorian era, it was said that the length of a man’s boat, in feet, should match his age, in years. The Victorians would have had some questions at the fortieth annual Palm Beach International Boat Show, which convened this March on Florida’s Gold Coast. A typical offering: a two-hundred-and-three-foot superyacht named Sea Owl, selling secondhand for ninety million dollars. The owner, Robert Mercer, the hedge-fund tycoon and Republican donor, was throwing in furniture and accessories, including several auxiliary boats, a Steinway piano, a variety of frescoes, and a security system that requires fingerprint recognition. Nevertheless, Mercer’s package was a modest one; the largest superyachts are more than five hundred feet, on a scale with naval destroyers, and cost six or seven times what he was asking.

Excerpt…

O’Shannassy has come to see big boats as a space where powerful “solar systems” converge and combine. “It is implicit in every interaction that their sharing of information will benefit both parties; it is an obsession with billionaires to do favours for each other. A referral, an introduction, an insight—it all matters,” he wrote in “Superyacht Captain,” a new memoir. A guest told O’Shannassy that, after a lavish display of hospitality, he finally understood the business case for buying a boat. “One deal secured on board will pay it all back many times over,” the guest said, “and it is pretty hard to say no after your kids have been hosted so well for a week.”

Continues…

Source: The New Yorker

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/07/25/the-haves-and-the-have-yachts

Same can be said for “investing” in the corruption of an Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court. It pays back big time.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
50. Lol, I think I'll hold off on going to the bank just yet.
Fri Apr 14, 2023, 08:13 AM
Apr 2023

Besides, I'm busy in the back counting my chickens.

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