General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPentagon Gives Statement On Russian T-90 Tank Left At Truck Stop
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/pentagon-gives-statement-on-russian-t-90-tank-left-at-truck-stopGough also confirmed our reporting about the tanks ultimate destination before the truck transporting it broke down at Petos Travel Center and Casino in rural Roanoke.
I can confirm that a T-90 tank was being transported to Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Maryland, when the truck transporting it suffered a mechanical issue. That issue has been fixed and the item is secure."
The "ultimate consignee" on the shipping label attached to the barrel of the tanks main gun was listed as Building 358, 6850 Lanyard Rd., Aberdeen Proving Ground. That's the home of the U.S. Army Aberdeen Test Center (ATC).
more at link...
TheRealNorth
(9,481 posts)For our engineers to poke around at.
underpants
(182,848 posts)Javaman
(62,531 posts)ms liberty
(8,588 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,228 posts)niyad
(113,490 posts)getagrip_already
(14,795 posts)Hundreds have been killed in Ukraine. All typef weopons have been fired at them. They are used not only by russia and now ukraine, but russia has also exported these to other conflict areas.
Finally, the world wide supply is small, getting smaller, and russia can't build new ones.
Is it just for the smithsonian? A generals base collection?
I guess if it ends up in the smithsonian it isn't so bad; except for the cost to ship it.
"My country supported Ukraine and all I got was this stupid tank" ) /s
Javaman
(62,531 posts)a whole bunch of things just from the metallurgy alone.
the quality of the steel can tell the volumes about their production.
getagrip_already
(14,795 posts)but it looks like an intact unit. there were plenty of killed tanks or ones that couldn't be made battle ready again to get parts from.
This feels more like a war trophy or will be used as a field prop for tank crews to recognize, but not fire on.
Javaman
(62,531 posts)they will be doing a series of tests on the armor strength against a variety of weapons.
I had a buddy that did high speed camera work back in the day on test ranges.
they watch for missile penetration on the outer shell.
and on an aside, sure they can use old blown up versions, but sometimes, the heat of an explosion will change a metals composition to make it unusable for tests.
getting an intact tank without that, is a good find.
getagrip_already
(14,795 posts)With a whole tank, they can digitize it and use the 3d model to train ai fire systems to automatically identify it as a t-90 and fire on it autonomously.
Then they can run it around with other tanks and see if an auto fire system could pick out and auto-fire on it when weopons free. They wouldn't actually fire live rounds at it, just test the algorithms in all conditions to id and target it. A kind of AI based visual iff.
Just a thought anyway. theyreally don't need a functional physical tank to see how it was built aat this point.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)chew on while real important stuff happens and makes real news elsewhere.
GregariousGroundhog
(7,525 posts)The T-90 has gone through two major upgrade programs, resulting in the T-90A and the T-90M. Additionally, there are export versions of the T-90 and T-90M, named T-90S and T-90MS respectively. The T-90S has been widely exported, Egypt wanted to buy T-90MS though I'm unsure if any of those have been delivered.
I suspect Aberdeen Proving Grounds will completely disassemble, catalogue, and study every piece of that tank. I also suspect that they would love to get their hands on an intact T-90M.
Aristus
(66,434 posts)The T-64, T-72, T-80, and T-90 are all, more or less the same tank, with the same basic layout and crew responsibilities.
There are some basic differences in the tank models. For example, the automatic main-gun loading mechanism is more complex and expensive on the T-64 than the subsequent models. The T-80 has a gas turbine engine, instead of a diesel like the others.
After that, it pretty much comes down to upgrades in optics, targeting software, and as you pointed out, some changes in metallurgy.