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Javaman

(62,531 posts)
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 08:08 AM Apr 2023

Pentagon Gives Statement On Russian T-90 Tank Left At Truck Stop

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/pentagon-gives-statement-on-russian-t-90-tank-left-at-truck-stop

Gough also confirmed our reporting about the tank’s ultimate destination before the truck transporting it broke down at Peto’s Travel Center and Casino in rural Roanoke.

“I can confirm that a T-90 tank was being transported to Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Maryland, when the truck transporting it suffered a mechanical issue. That issue has been fixed and the item is secure."

The "ultimate consignee" on the shipping label attached to the barrel of the tank’s main gun was listed as Building 358, 6850 Lanyard Rd., Aberdeen Proving Ground. That's the home of the U.S. Army Aberdeen Test Center (ATC).

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Pentagon Gives Statement On Russian T-90 Tank Left At Truck Stop (Original Post) Javaman Apr 2023 OP
Sounds like we got a gift from Ukraine..... TheRealNorth Apr 2023 #1
The shipping label was on the barrel? underpants Apr 2023 #2
Yeah, that cracked me up too. LOL :) nt Javaman Apr 2023 #3
The picture at the link looks like a FedEx or UPS label ms liberty Apr 2023 #8
They were towing it with the wrong vehicle. Should have used these BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #4
A friend and I were just talking about those farmers the other day. niyad Apr 2023 #12
At this point, I'm wondering what they can learn from a t-90? getagrip_already Apr 2023 #5
they can learn a ton of stuff. Javaman Apr 2023 #6
I suppose.... getagrip_already Apr 2023 #7
if they are taking to aborteen testing grounds... Javaman Apr 2023 #10
I think I may have answered my own question - possibly getagrip_already Apr 2023 #9
What we can all learn is that news on Twitter is not news, it's feed for the masses to Alexander Of Assyria Apr 2023 #11
I doubt that the United States has gotten their hands on a T-90A GregariousGroundhog Apr 2023 #13
There's probably very little we don't already know about the T-90. Aristus Apr 2023 #15
Next time... ThoughtCriminal Apr 2023 #14

getagrip_already

(14,795 posts)
5. At this point, I'm wondering what they can learn from a t-90?
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:25 AM
Apr 2023

Hundreds have been killed in Ukraine. All typef weopons have been fired at them. They are used not only by russia and now ukraine, but russia has also exported these to other conflict areas.

Finally, the world wide supply is small, getting smaller, and russia can't build new ones.

Is it just for the smithsonian? A generals base collection?

I guess if it ends up in the smithsonian it isn't so bad; except for the cost to ship it.

"My country supported Ukraine and all I got was this stupid tank" ) /s

Javaman

(62,531 posts)
6. they can learn a ton of stuff.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:27 AM
Apr 2023

a whole bunch of things just from the metallurgy alone.

the quality of the steel can tell the volumes about their production.

getagrip_already

(14,795 posts)
7. I suppose....
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:31 AM
Apr 2023

but it looks like an intact unit. there were plenty of killed tanks or ones that couldn't be made battle ready again to get parts from.

This feels more like a war trophy or will be used as a field prop for tank crews to recognize, but not fire on.

Javaman

(62,531 posts)
10. if they are taking to aborteen testing grounds...
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:39 AM
Apr 2023

they will be doing a series of tests on the armor strength against a variety of weapons.

I had a buddy that did high speed camera work back in the day on test ranges.

they watch for missile penetration on the outer shell.

and on an aside, sure they can use old blown up versions, but sometimes, the heat of an explosion will change a metals composition to make it unusable for tests.

getting an intact tank without that, is a good find.

getagrip_already

(14,795 posts)
9. I think I may have answered my own question - possibly
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:37 AM
Apr 2023

With a whole tank, they can digitize it and use the 3d model to train ai fire systems to automatically identify it as a t-90 and fire on it autonomously.

Then they can run it around with other tanks and see if an auto fire system could pick out and auto-fire on it when weopons free. They wouldn't actually fire live rounds at it, just test the algorithms in all conditions to id and target it. A kind of AI based visual iff.

Just a thought anyway. theyreally don't need a functional physical tank to see how it was built aat this point.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
11. What we can all learn is that news on Twitter is not news, it's feed for the masses to
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:50 AM
Apr 2023

chew on while real important stuff happens and makes real news elsewhere.

GregariousGroundhog

(7,525 posts)
13. I doubt that the United States has gotten their hands on a T-90A
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 11:54 AM
Apr 2023

The T-90 has gone through two major upgrade programs, resulting in the T-90A and the T-90M. Additionally, there are export versions of the T-90 and T-90M, named T-90S and T-90MS respectively. The T-90S has been widely exported, Egypt wanted to buy T-90MS though I'm unsure if any of those have been delivered.

I suspect Aberdeen Proving Grounds will completely disassemble, catalogue, and study every piece of that tank. I also suspect that they would love to get their hands on an intact T-90M.

Aristus

(66,434 posts)
15. There's probably very little we don't already know about the T-90.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 12:54 PM
Apr 2023

The T-64, T-72, T-80, and T-90 are all, more or less the same tank, with the same basic layout and crew responsibilities.

There are some basic differences in the tank models. For example, the automatic main-gun loading mechanism is more complex and expensive on the T-64 than the subsequent models. The T-80 has a gas turbine engine, instead of a diesel like the others.

After that, it pretty much comes down to upgrades in optics, targeting software, and as you pointed out, some changes in metallurgy.

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