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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,732 posts)
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 08:20 PM Apr 2023

Musk claims 'birth control and abortions' could cause civilization to collapse

Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson discussed the urge to have sex, with Musk claiming 'birth control and abortions' could cause civilization to collapse

Billionaire Elon Musk aired his controversial ideas on population decline and reproduction in the second of a series of meandering interviews with Fox News' Tucker Carlson that aired Tuesday.

During the discussion, Musk claimed that the human urge to procreate had been "subverted," leading to population decline.




Carlson then asked the Tesla and SpaceX billionaire to expand on the idea.

-snip-

"I'm sort of worried that hey, civilization, if we don't make enough people to at least sustain our numbers, perhaps increase a little bit, then civilization's going to crumble," Musk added.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/elon-musk-and-tucker-carlson-discussed-the-urge-to-have-sex-with-musk-claiming-birth-control-and-abortions-could-cause-civilization-to-collapse/ar-AA1a2Zri

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Musk claims 'birth control and abortions' could cause civilization to collapse (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2023 OP
Just when I thought I could not think less off him Miguelito Loveless Apr 2023 #1
yeah. once thought of him as an innovator inventor...now just think he's a bigot caveman BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 2023 #12
K&R!!!!! Same thoughts here. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2023 #26
He used to have great PR and people thought he was an Carlitos Brigante Apr 2023 #30
he happily accepted the meme that he was the real "tony stark" BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 2023 #35
Yup. He's not even a low rent Carlitos Brigante Apr 2023 #37
He has no education and never invented anything. He bought inventions using his Father's Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #32
I know something way bigger that will definitely cause civilization to collapse. roamer65 Apr 2023 #2
but killing is ok once born............... Lovie777 Apr 2023 #3
The two of those bigots talking about procreation is disgusting. rogue emissary Apr 2023 #4
Didn't these clowns want to 'cull the herd'? C_U_L8R Apr 2023 #5
No, Elon Musk is worried about White babies. haele Apr 2023 #6
and to consider - - that this clown is actually considered stopdiggin Apr 2023 #7
He's really dumb as a rock in many areas. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2023 #27
We are going to need more labor resources to fuel the economy as our numbers dwindle Shermann Apr 2023 #8
Does this claudette Apr 2023 #9
The planet will survive just fine calguy Apr 2023 #11
I was thinking more claudette Apr 2023 #20
He's worried about the declining number of White births. Yavin4 Apr 2023 #10
Didn't we have "civilization" in the past with far fewer people? DBoon Apr 2023 #13
Exactly my thought, too claudette Apr 2023 #21
White people. Lots and lots of white people, I guess. nt Carlitos Brigante Apr 2023 #31
Good thing Musk is on top of the situation. ornotna Apr 2023 #14
Racist scumbags. usonian Apr 2023 #15
too many people will cause a ton more problems than birth control RussBLib Apr 2023 #16
Musk is worried about there being enough people to sustain the human species? patphil Apr 2023 #17
He DGAF about the human species jcgoldie Apr 2023 #33
Who are Elon Musk's kids? His 10 children's names, ages and mothers IcyPeas Apr 2023 #18
I would support reducing population by over half if he is included. LiberalFighter Apr 2023 #19
"make people" - why don't you just say cogs, scumbag Iris Apr 2023 #22
So Musk is pro-forced birth. Got it. sakabatou Apr 2023 #23
But, Hey Everyone! Stay on twitter maxrandb Apr 2023 #24
I have abandoned twitter but still can't quit the dumb thing permanently. Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #34
The rich just don't want to deal with increase taxation hence Jspur Apr 2023 #25
Yep, he probably wants more expendable young kids to exploit for dangerous jobs. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2023 #28
Man who doesn't pay workers enough Johonny Apr 2023 #29
Blame it on the self-driving Tesla? Scottie Mom Apr 2023 #36
Sit down and get back to work on your SpaceX rockets that are exploding, Elon. Sogo Apr 2023 #38
 

Carlitos Brigante

(26,848 posts)
30. He used to have great PR and people thought he was an
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:27 AM
Apr 2023

inventor. When in reality he hasn't invented anything.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
32. He has no education and never invented anything. He bought inventions using his Father's
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:29 AM
Apr 2023

profits from his South African apartheid Emerald mines. He is a rich asshole and a complete fraud.

roamer65

(37,957 posts)
2. I know something way bigger that will definitely cause civilization to collapse.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 08:25 PM
Apr 2023

CLIMATE CHANGE.

8 BILLION IS TOO MANY.

Lovie777

(22,992 posts)
3. but killing is ok once born...............
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 08:25 PM
Apr 2023

how about no killing once they are born and live a good life .

C_U_L8R

(49,387 posts)
5. Didn't these clowns want to 'cull the herd'?
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 08:29 PM
Apr 2023

Or is that just for populations that don't look like them?

haele

(15,404 posts)
6. No, Elon Musk is worried about White babies.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 08:31 PM
Apr 2023

We actually don't need as many people to "sustain Civilization" as we did in 1980, because of a little thing called technology. Now, we need to improve technology to assist people as they age, but for now, immigration can easily make up for the difference, as the emerging countries still have more than sustainable birthrates and would happily provide people to be trained and take their families to countries that need people to do the caretaking and other critical jobs.

All this being said, we do have a bad problem across the world with worker exploitation. Until we fix that, the rights and dignity of people who want to immigrate to get better or more diverse jobs is going be a shameful reflection of our society.

Haele

stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
7. and to consider - - that this clown is actually considered
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 08:34 PM
Apr 2023

a 'smart cookie' in some quarters. Damn!

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Shermann

(9,062 posts)
8. We are going to need more labor resources to fuel the economy as our numbers dwindle
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 08:37 PM
Apr 2023

That's where AI comes in! AI and robots will work all those stupid jobs, while us aging humans can focus on enjoying our retirement.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
9. Does this
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 08:42 PM
Apr 2023

stupid moron know how many people inhabit this planet? And how this affects how long our PLANET will survive? My gawd. Money does not make one smart

calguy

(6,154 posts)
11. The planet will survive just fine
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 08:46 PM
Apr 2023

It's the survival of the human race one or two hundred years from now that's in serious jeopardy.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
20. I was thinking more
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:21 PM
Apr 2023

of the problem of climate change and what it might do to the planet itself, too, with all thse people abusing it.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
10. He's worried about the declining number of White births.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 08:45 PM
Apr 2023

That's the subtext behind all of this. The number of White births is in steep decline around the world.

DBoon

(24,989 posts)
13. Didn't we have "civilization" in the past with far fewer people?
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:00 PM
Apr 2023

Is there some magic number of people required to create "civilization"?

And what the heck does Musk think makes a "civilization"?

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
21. Exactly my thought, too
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:22 PM
Apr 2023

In time, I think the garbage all these billions of us accumulate on this planet will destroy it and us.

usonian

(25,334 posts)
15. Racist scumbags.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:07 PM
Apr 2023

Have no problem with disaster, pestilence, low birth rate, low life expectancy, and outright genocide when they happen to people "WHO DON'T MATTER" because they aren't part of "civilization".

To hell with racism. That's where it comes from, and where it belongs, NOT HERE.

patphil

(9,070 posts)
17. Musk is worried about there being enough people to sustain the human species?
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:13 PM
Apr 2023

There are nearly 8 billion people on the planet, and over 334 million in the United States.
I think there are more than enough people out there.
The guy's a fuckin' idiot!

https://www.census.gov/popclock/

jcgoldie

(12,046 posts)
33. He DGAF about the human species
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:30 AM
Apr 2023

...he just wants constant exponential population growth to supply cheap labor to support billionaires like him.

IcyPeas

(25,475 posts)
18. Who are Elon Musk's kids? His 10 children's names, ages and mothers
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:19 PM
Apr 2023
Elon Musk’s brood just keeps growing.

The Tesla mogul and one of his top Neuralink executives, Shivon Zilis, welcomed twins in November 2021, just one month before the arrival of his second child with on-again, off-again partner Grimes via surrogate.

The three newborns join Musk’s six other living children: Griffin, Vivian, Kai, Saxon, Damian and X.

Meet the billionaire businessman’s kids and their mothers below.


https://pagesix.com/article/elon-musk-children/

maxrandb

(17,428 posts)
24. But, Hey Everyone! Stay on twitter
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 10:33 PM
Apr 2023

Ya' know, because you need to "monitor" what is said, or "it's important to know what the other side is doing", or "well, he's only preaching to people that already are as disgustingly amoral as he is", or "it's important for my business", or whatever such shit you tell yourself to justify puting money in this fascist fucksticks pocket

Jspur

(798 posts)
25. The rich just don't want to deal with increase taxation hence
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 12:55 AM
Apr 2023

why they want the population to increase exponentially so they can be off the hook from funding social programs such as Social Security, Medicare, etc. We don't need a large population to fund these programs. if we increased taxes on the rich we could fund them. That's the easiest way to fix this problem but that's not ideal for the rich.

Johonny

(26,186 posts)
29. Man who doesn't pay workers enough
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:25 AM
Apr 2023

to have multiple kids, yet alone give workers the time off to actually raise them, or you know, any kind of job stability, complains the working class isn't having enough kids. Here's a hint at the problem. It's fucking you. Greedy assholes make it impossible for workers to afford homes and kids. That's basically it.

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