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Does anyone here on DU support Kennedy's run for president? nt (Original Post) LAS14 Apr 2023 OP
Hard NO. Meadowoak Apr 2023 #1
I don't. I just can't, considering his anti-vaccine stance. Glorfindel Apr 2023 #2
He's on Tucker tonight spouting Russian propaganda. Nevilledog Apr 2023 #17
I wouldn't believe TC.... WarGamer Apr 2023 #33
The point is Fox & guests are pushing the doctored numbers. Nevilledog Apr 2023 #35
Considering only one of the countries.. ahimsa Apr 2023 #81
It has to do with giving support to the Ukrainians. Nevilledog Apr 2023 #82
Not disagreeing.. ahimsa Apr 2023 #83
I saw an OP on that.. that's Cha Apr 2023 #42
Fuck NO. roamer65 Apr 2023 #3
Hell no we can do it Apr 2023 #4
NoVax Kennedy or Looziana MarbleMouff Kennedy? Stinky The Clown Apr 2023 #5
I came to ask the same question. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2023 #88
Oh, yeah, Senator Foghorn Leghorn hatrack Apr 2023 #102
I don't. He hangs with MAGA types like Bannon and others...has a pic with Flynn...not a Democrat. Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #6
Report what? live love laugh Apr 2023 #7
Glad to see all the negative responses. (nt) Paladin Apr 2023 #8
Fuck no Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2023 #9
Pretty sure it's the latter. ShazzieB Apr 2023 #99
I don't care what he calls himself. He's not a Democrat. onecaliberal Apr 2023 #10
The answer is "No". mommymarine2003 Apr 2023 #11
His father and uncle are rolling in their graves. BigmanPigman Apr 2023 #12
I wonder how the fund-raising is going? nt TexasTowelie Apr 2023 #13
Kennedy nostalgia will not help him. pandr32 Apr 2023 #14
I support him for president of the loonies JohnSJ Apr 2023 #15
LOL Takket Apr 2023 #16
+1 ecstatic Apr 2023 #73
No way! Republicans are looking for him to be the Jill Stein of the 2024 election. patphil Apr 2023 #18
If he does run, it will really stress the DU rules. The guy is ... well, you know. Joinfortmill Apr 2023 #19
No f'ing way CanonRay Apr 2023 #20
Absolutely not!!! (Nt) LostOne4Ever Apr 2023 #21
Absolutely not. He and his fellow anti vaxxers are directly responsible for justhanginon Apr 2023 #22
Heck no! Ritabert Apr 2023 #23
He's a genuine nutcase Freddie Apr 2023 #24
His own family doesn't seem to support it. lapucelle Apr 2023 #25
Mahalo for that, lapuclle.. Cha Apr 2023 #44
How did he get Cheryl Hines to marry him? grantcart Apr 2023 #57
I didn't know who his Cha Apr 2023 #59
She plays Larry David's wife on "Curb Your Enthusiasm". grantcart Apr 2023 #66
Wow! TY for that. Cha Apr 2023 #79
Good for her, standing up to that antvax nutjob. ShazzieB Apr 2023 #97
There are Woo-liamson supporters here Doc Sportello Apr 2023 #26
Fuck no! 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2023 #27
NO! but I would love to see John Bouvier Kennedy Schlossberg (JFK's only grandson) get into politics Celerity Apr 2023 #28
He has JFK's facial structure, but Jackie's coloring. wnylib Apr 2023 #60
look at his oldest sister, Rose. So much Jackie. Celerity Apr 2023 #64
Rose has Jackie's mouth and smile. wnylib Apr 2023 #74
Hell no. Aristus Apr 2023 #29
MAGA friendly Democrats SomedayKindaLove Apr 2023 #30
National office? We'd have to be already dead. Hortensis Apr 2023 #80
LOL, of course not. W_HAMILTON Apr 2023 #31
No, but I loved his dad. sinkingfeeling Apr 2023 #32
No DET Apr 2023 #34
He turned me into a newt. nt BootinUp Apr 2023 #36
Uhhhh...NO! Texasgal Apr 2023 #37
Jesus I hope not. bottomofthehill Apr 2023 #38
Under NO circumstances. Haggis 4 Breakfast Apr 2023 #39
Hard pass . . . hatrack Apr 2023 #40
I wish we could kick him out of our Party FakeNoose Apr 2023 #41
I'd feel sad for him if he wasn't dangerous. nolabear Apr 2023 #43
You nailed it about his problems and wnylib Apr 2023 #62
WHAT is wrong with his voice ? Haggis 4 Breakfast Apr 2023 #45
He has a condition. I believe his grandmother Rose Kennedy had it to some degree. electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #55
Spasmodic dysphonia Tanuki Apr 2023 #72
Thank you, Tanuki, for the explanation. Haggis 4 Breakfast Apr 2023 #95
FUCK NO budkin Apr 2023 #46
My answer will be old school: Hell to the no! okaawhatever Apr 2023 #47
Yes ! If he runs as a GuppyGal Apr 2023 #48
No LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #49
Bannon encouraged him to run. The fact that he did so in light of that encouragement says more RockRaven Apr 2023 #50
N. O. spells NO! orleans Apr 2023 #51
HELL no nt Withywindle Apr 2023 #52
I supported his dad in 1968 DFW Apr 2023 #53
No. electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #54
not I samrob22 Apr 2023 #56
Besides his conspiracy idiocy is his attack on Fauci grantcart Apr 2023 #58
Only trolls. betsuni Apr 2023 #61
This. Sure as the irritation of clicking it away. Shoo! Hortensis Apr 2023 #85
Anti cannabis and anti vax, little too right for me. Emile Apr 2023 #63
Hell no. I can't imagine anyone here supporting him FlyingPiggy Apr 2023 #65
I support him Tommy Carcetti Apr 2023 #67
He's the Left's version of Paul Gosar. GoCubsGo Apr 2023 #68
Yes, There Are ProfessorGAC Apr 2023 #69
Not in a million quamires. LiberalFighter Apr 2023 #70
No Fing way we can do it Apr 2023 #71
I respected him about twenty years ago. Now? Hell No! Tom Rinaldo Apr 2023 #75
Hell no.. He is a Republican running as a Democrat. He would change party as soon as he was elected LiberalArkie Apr 2023 #76
No. lees1975 Apr 2023 #77
Not calling any names here. Prairie_Seagull Apr 2023 #78
NOPE....not in a million years Bettie Apr 2023 #84
No Owl Apr 2023 #86
That's the same as Gail Strickland newdayneeded Apr 2023 #87
Nope. I'm real picky about who I support. hamsterjill Apr 2023 #89
Not a chance n/t shanti Apr 2023 #90
We have Biden and Harris as a alt, so no. Lancero Apr 2023 #91
A resounding no. rogue emissary Apr 2023 #92
No, no, no, no, no. Our local paper has had full page ads the past couple of weeks trying to get Vinca Apr 2023 #93
Biden and Harris have my 2024 vote locked up. Torchlight Apr 2023 #94
He probably would if he weren't so blatant about being a GOP stalking horse. 617Blue Apr 2023 #96
5 words: No. Way. In. The. World. ShazzieB Apr 2023 #98
No! Not at all. ArnoldLayne Apr 2023 #100
No. Fuck. Ing. Way. hatrack Apr 2023 #101

Glorfindel

(10,175 posts)
2. I don't. I just can't, considering his anti-vaccine stance.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 08:53 PM
Apr 2023

A tragic descent from his father and his uncles. Such a pity.

Nevilledog

(55,082 posts)
17. He's on Tucker tonight spouting Russian propaganda.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:05 PM
Apr 2023

Talking about the altered classified document with Ukraine/Russian casualty numbers as if they were true. Definitely not supportive of Ukraine.

WarGamer

(18,613 posts)
33. I wouldn't believe TC....
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 10:36 PM
Apr 2023

But I believe Gen. Milley who said that Ukraine and Russia have both suffered over 100k casualties... Russia, well over.

I don't take Ukrainian estimates seriously. They're obviously manufactured for public consumption.

Nevilledog

(55,082 posts)
35. The point is Fox & guests are pushing the doctored numbers.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 10:45 PM
Apr 2023

The ones that say Ukrainians losses are 7 to 1

ahimsa

(426 posts)
81. Considering only one of the countries..
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 02:17 PM
Apr 2023

..has been bombarded for over a year now, even if it were true, it would probably be more of a reflection of that than anything else.

Nevilledog

(55,082 posts)
82. It has to do with giving support to the Ukrainians.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 02:19 PM
Apr 2023

They're pushing the lie that Ukraine is losing so we shouldn't give them more support. It's Russian propaganda.

ahimsa

(426 posts)
83. Not disagreeing..
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 02:23 PM
Apr 2023

I agree absolutely. I'm just saying that it should not be a surprise if the country getting bombarded had more casualties than the one not getting bombarded.

Cha

(319,086 posts)
42. I saw an OP on that.. that's
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 11:52 PM
Apr 2023

exponentially Worse than his anti-vax shit, to me.

You can't be a caring compassionate person and support Russia's War Crimes over Ukraine.

Rep Jeff Jackson D North Carolina explains it well..




https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=821938

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,339 posts)
88. I came to ask the same question.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 03:03 PM
Apr 2023

Your version of the question was much funnier than what I had in my head.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
6. I don't. He hangs with MAGA types like Bannon and others...has a pic with Flynn...not a Democrat.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 08:54 PM
Apr 2023

He is an anti-vaxer so I blame him with Trump ET AL for Covid deaths...my words to him would get the hell away...we won't vote for you- period.

ShazzieB

(22,592 posts)
99. Pretty sure it's the latter.
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 06:26 PM
Apr 2023

He's also very prominent in the antivax community and has a lot of fans there, so maybe that's given him an exaggerated sense of his own importance.

BigmanPigman

(55,171 posts)
12. His father and uncle are rolling in their graves.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 08:59 PM
Apr 2023

He is as much a Dem as Tulsi Gabbard is/was.

pandr32

(14,272 posts)
14. Kennedy nostalgia will not help him.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:02 PM
Apr 2023

I doubt he'll have any support from Democrats save a few who don't follow politics much and fall for the name. It won't be enough to get him anywhere, though. He'll be like Logan Roy's son Conner on "Succession".

patphil

(9,068 posts)
18. No way! Republicans are looking for him to be the Jill Stein of the 2024 election.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:05 PM
Apr 2023

He's a KINO...Kennedy in name only.
Otherwise no relationship to the great Democratic Kennedys.

justhanginon

(3,381 posts)
22. Absolutely not. He and his fellow anti vaxxers are directly responsible for
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:10 PM
Apr 2023

a lot of Covid deaths of both adults and children who were not vaccinated because they listened to this ass rather than medical experts. Another know nothing with a loud mouth and conspiracy theories. The party would do well to publicly disown his candidacy.

Freddie

(10,104 posts)
24. He's a genuine nutcase
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:17 PM
Apr 2023

I tried to read his autobiography. First part was good (growing up Kennedy, etc) and then he started on the anti-vax stuff. It’s still in my Kindle half-read, never to be completely read.

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
25. His own family doesn't seem to support it.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:19 PM
Apr 2023
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. can’t count on family support to take on Biden

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/16/politics/robert-f-kennedy-family-biden-2024/index.html

Kennedy family backing Biden over their own in 2024 Dem primary: report

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3953994-kennedy-family-backing-biden-over-their-own-in-2024-dem-primary-report/

Kerry Kennedy Speaks Out on Bobby's Presidential Bid: 'Love My Brother, but Do Not Share or Endorse His Views'

https://people.com/politics/kerry-kennedy-speaks-out-rfk-jr-presidential-bid/

Cha

(319,086 posts)
59. I didn't know who his
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 03:08 AM
Apr 2023

wife is.

I recognize the name now but I know nothing about her.

Maybe she's an anti-vaxer.. there's more than a few out there.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
66. She plays Larry David's wife on "Curb Your Enthusiasm".
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 06:13 AM
Apr 2023

In 2021 as people were starting to get out and go to parties she had a Christmas Party. In the invitation it said only those with vaccines would be allowed in, vaccine records would be checked at the door.

Somebody asked RFK Jr and he said, "even in my own home no one listens to me".

What he said about Fauci has less intelligence than a rock.

Doc Sportello

(7,964 posts)
26. There are Woo-liamson supporters here
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:32 PM
Apr 2023

And those who say Kennedy can't be "bashed" because he's a registered Democrat.

Celerity

(54,410 posts)
28. NO! but I would love to see John Bouvier Kennedy Schlossberg (JFK's only grandson) get into politics
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:46 PM
Apr 2023

Jack Schlossberg (what he goes by) turned 30 years old three months ago (born January 19th, 1993) and graduated last year from Harvard Law School. He spoke at the 2020 Dem Convention.







Who Is Jack Schlossberg? 5 Things to Know About John F. Kennedy’s Grandson

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/jack-schlossberg-5-things-to-know-about-jfks-grandson/

wnylib

(26,021 posts)
60. He has JFK's facial structure, but Jackie's coloring.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 04:42 AM
Apr 2023

Caroline is just the reverse, with Jackie's facial structure, but her father's coloring.

Jack Schlossberg looks a lot like his uncle, John Jr.

Celerity

(54,410 posts)
64. look at his oldest sister, Rose. So much Jackie.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 05:32 AM
Apr 2023






Rose with her wife, Rory McAuliffe 💙💙



Jack S v JFK Jr











wnylib

(26,021 posts)
74. Rose has Jackie's mouth and smile.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:50 AM
Apr 2023

Also has some of Jackie's mannerisms in the way she holds her head.

Aristus

(72,188 posts)
29. Hell no.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 09:49 PM
Apr 2023

I often wonder how much of the anti-vaccine shit I have to deal with in clinic is directly attributable to him.

I don’t want him anywhere near elective office.

SomedayKindaLove

(1,181 posts)
30. MAGA friendly Democrats
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 10:02 PM
Apr 2023

Vallas almost became mayor of Chicago. Now Kennedy is running as a Dem. Once MAGA starts getting elected as Dems we are doomed.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
80. National office? We'd have to be already dead.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 02:07 PM
Apr 2023

Locally, conservatives have often run as Democrats, relying on lack of checkable records and underfunded opposition, when that's the only way to power.

Behavior, not labels.

DET

(2,501 posts)
34. No
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 10:40 PM
Apr 2023

The fact that Bannon put him up to this is all I need to know. Plus I’m skeptical of political dynasties.

bottomofthehill

(9,390 posts)
38. Jesus I hope not.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 11:01 PM
Apr 2023

The trauma and drugs have caught up to the waste of a life that is RFK Jr.

Haggis 4 Breakfast

(1,505 posts)
39. Under NO circumstances.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 11:14 PM
Apr 2023

If he thinks that the Kennedy name will carry him, he's wrong. No one supports political dynasties anymore, not even for Kennedys.

I remember Bobby Kennedy. Bobby Kennedy was a hero of mine, and you, sir, are NO Bobby Kennedy.

His anti-vaxx bombast is deplorable. The way he LIES about the facts and creates number and statics out of thin air is reprehensible. But what pushed me over the edge were his savage, vicious, personal attacks on Anthony Fauci.

FakeNoose

(41,637 posts)
41. I wish we could kick him out of our Party
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 11:21 PM
Apr 2023

RFK Jr. has gone off the reservation, and he shouldn't be allowed to call himself a Democrat. He's just the latest chaos agent, and we've already seen too many of them.




nolabear

(43,850 posts)
43. I'd feel sad for him if he wasn't dangerous.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 11:59 PM
Apr 2023

He’s got some real problems and the right recognizes and is using him for them. I don’t think he’ll gain much traction but it’s not going to be fun to watch.

wnylib

(26,021 posts)
62. You nailed it about his problems and
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 04:55 AM
Apr 2023

the RW attempt to promote him on his family's name. RWers want him to run to undermine support for Biden. It won't work, of course.

Tanuki

(16,448 posts)
72. Spasmodic dysphonia
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 08:36 AM
Apr 2023
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5296702&page=1


..."Kennedy has a condition called spasmodic dysphonia, a specific form of an involuntary movement disorder called dystonia that affects only the voice box.
...

People with spasmodic dysphonia in the media, such as Kennedy or National Public Radio talk show host Diane Rhem, have helped bring spasmodic dysphonia to national attention. Kennedy and Rhem both serve as honorary board members of NSDA, and Rhem wrote about her experience in her 2002 book, "Finding My Voice."
...

The best guess spasmodic dysphonia experts have for now is that root of the neurological disorder lies in the basal ganglia. The basal ganglia is often called the "processing area" of the brain and it sits between the cortex -- the "upper management" part of the brain as Song calls it -- and the brain stem, or the "foot soldier" of the brain.

However, the most advanced research is still focused on finding physical evidence of changes in the brain, and possibly a genetic cause behind the disorder. For now, most spasmodic dysphonia patients work with the cycle of low-dose Botox treatments three times a year that leave their voices first as breathy, then normal then stilted again."... (more)

Haggis 4 Breakfast

(1,505 posts)
95. Thank you, Tanuki, for the explanation.
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 05:43 PM
Apr 2023

I had never heard of this malady before, but I do remember that Rose Kennedy had something similar. It seemed to appear as she aged. Perhaps it is genetic, after all.

RockRaven

(19,381 posts)
50. Bannon encouraged him to run. The fact that he did so in light of that encouragement says more
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 01:06 AM
Apr 2023

than anyone needs to know to make a decision on the matter, assuming the person in question has two brain cells to rub together. What sort of person hears that recommendation and then goes with it? Says a lot about him, doesn't it?

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
58. Besides his conspiracy idiocy is his attack on Fauci
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 03:01 AM
Apr 2023

You wonder if he can do simple arithmetic.

betsuni

(29,078 posts)
61. Only trolls.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 04:53 AM
Apr 2023

We'll be regularly poked with articles about how Kennedy, Williamson, No Labels are SURGING and nobody likes Biden.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,499 posts)
67. I support him
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 06:39 AM
Apr 2023

Shutting up and stop ruining his father’s good name.

Sorry, meant to have that all on one line.

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
69. Yes, There Are
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 07:55 AM
Apr 2023

I'm not one of them, of course. I think he's a nut.
But, the answer to your question is yes. There are a couple regular posters trying to sell his bona fides here at DU, including polls showing his approval numbers.
Terms of use prohibit naming them, and doing so isn't my style, anyway. But, they're here.

Tom Rinaldo

(23,187 posts)
75. I respected him about twenty years ago. Now? Hell No!
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 11:53 AM
Apr 2023

He was a good environmental lawyer. It's very sad what has happened since.

LiberalArkie

(19,807 posts)
76. Hell no.. He is a Republican running as a Democrat. He would change party as soon as he was elected
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 12:28 PM
Apr 2023

Bettie

(19,704 posts)
84. NOPE....not in a million years
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 02:24 PM
Apr 2023

he's an anti-vaxx anti-science person. Can't even take him seriously anymore.

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
89. Nope. I'm real picky about who I support.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 03:37 PM
Apr 2023

This guy’s a kook looking for attention and hoping the name recognition will get him some.

Insignificant as Marianne Williamson. Just throwing money away on ego.

Lancero

(3,276 posts)
91. We have Biden and Harris as a alt, so no.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 03:48 PM
Apr 2023

Then again, we've got a lot of people who wouldn't be in favor of her running in 2024, and a lot of people who think older politicians should resign. So he might be a popular alternative for those groups, given how much overlay exists between them.

Worse case scenario though, he's still a Democrat. 'Blue no matter who' would apply here.

Vinca

(53,994 posts)
93. No, no, no, no, no. Our local paper has had full page ads the past couple of weeks trying to get
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 03:53 PM
Apr 2023

people to go to some event in Boston to support him. I can't imagine how many will show up.

Torchlight

(6,830 posts)
94. Biden and Harris have my 2024 vote locked up.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 04:02 PM
Apr 2023

All things being equal, there's really not much out there that could compel me to vote for an ant-vaxxer any more than a flat-earther, regardless of any political affiliation they assert.

Biden's been solid, stolid, and effective to date; in other words, I'm getting pretty much what I voted for in 2020. I plan to keep it that way.

617Blue

(2,472 posts)
96. He probably would if he weren't so blatant about being a GOP stalking horse.
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 05:47 PM
Apr 2023

Then again he seems so clueless that he probably doesn't even fathom how much of a tool of the right he is.

ShazzieB

(22,592 posts)
98. 5 words: No. Way. In. The. World.
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 06:17 PM
Apr 2023

RFK Jr. is an antivax nutjob and has been for years. He's been campaigning against the DTaP vaccine for ages, claiming it causes autism. That bunk has been debunked as repeatedly and as soundly as any bunk could be debunked.

As far as I'm concerned, antivax = antiscience, and that completely disqualifies him for ANY public office, imnsho.

hatrack

(64,890 posts)
101. No. Fuck. Ing. Way.
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 08:16 PM
Apr 2023

I had some respect for him on environmental issues 25 or 30 years ago.

Now he's just another flat-Earther, and we already have way more than enough crazy and stupid and pathetic crawling around on the ground in these United States, thank you very much.

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