A convention of states.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

Republicans dont fear being voted out next election. They keep passing more inhumane, brutal, fascist laws each one worse than the last

We all know thats not a recipie for winning elections.

So by passing such inhumane laws they are getting liberals and the ones they love to flee to safe states. With trans kids its whole families seeking asylum from red state fascism.

They want to control enough states to call a convention of states and thereby change our constitution. They only need to control 34 states. This is what makes florida the entire united states.this is why they try to gum up the elections.gum up enough states they will win them by hook or crook.. than change our constitution.

Then Florida becomes the United States under the constitution.

A convention of states is a convention called by the state legislatures for the purpose of proposing amendments to the Constitution. They are given power to do this under Article V of the Constitution. It is not a constitutional convention. It cannot throw out the Constitution because its authority is derived from the Constitution.

Ever think the idea if you got 1 wish you'd wish for 1000 more wishes?

This is where this could go.

[PortTack]

1. Yes, it is an important issue

Two things

This has been tossed around for decades now

Secondly, where ya gonna get 34 states?

[I_UndergroundPanther]

3. Tossed around yes

But a lot of shit is tossed around until it happens ,look at roe vs wade.


34 states heres an updated page.

https://conventionofstates.com/states-that-have-passed-the-convention-of-states-article-v-application

[PortTack]

4. 18 states passed, the blue states considering 3 maybe will turn green makes 21. 3 yellow maybe,

Makes 24. That’s where it’s been for a very long time. The other blue states are never going to go along with it.

You really can’t compare RvW to this, it’s a complete different issue, SCOTUS can’t just “step in.”

[rsdsharp]

2. Why is it that people who post this stuff never add that the Convention,

if it is ever called, would not be capable of changing the Constitution? Any proposed amendments would still have to be ratified by 3/4ths of the states. They have been trying for years to get the 34 states necessary to call a convention. If the can’t get 34 for pie-in-the- sky changes, what are their chances of getting 38 to ratify changes they will actually have to specify?

[PortTack]

5. Thank you! This has been kicked around here in the forums for years. It is never going to happen

We still have a majority and that majority is going to grow exponentially in the next decade with genz and millennials becoming the largest voting block. And they ain’t voting for republicans!!

[BlackSkimmer]

38. Thank you. nt

[pwb]

6. Woman are pissed, they will fix things at all levels of government..

This ride pukes are on is short. They came close but failed.

[The Grand Illuminist]

11. Margaret Thatcher anyone?

It is no different.

[pwb]

12. I was thinking of woman's freedoms being taken away.

And how they will vote in masses. ?

[inthewind21]

13. Are you aware

It was WOMEN who kept Trump alive in 2020?

[pwb]

15. Are you aware women have lost freedoms since then?

Their daughters don't have the same freedoms their moms had. It's simple Woman are more pissed since the claim you make.

[inthewind21]

17. I'm very aware

Guess I was the only one not surprised when ROE was gutted. We've only been told as soon as R's could take over state houses, pack the federal courts and get a hard right Supreme court they would blow up ROE. That was the plan for over FOURTY YEARS and it certainly wasn't kept a secret.

[inthewind21]

19. It's not a claim

Look it up.

[pwb]

20. You look it up, you claimed it

prove it. Send a link.

[inthewind21]

22. Prime example

Of why that warning of 40 years was totally missed and the panic is setting in after the fact. Just sayin!

[pwb]

23. What's done is done, now we fix it.

Stop thinking you are unique? There is a reason no one has recommend this post.

[inthewind21]

25. Not my post

And are you asking a question or making a statement?

[inthewind21]

27. Explain

Mid terms 2022. Did we fix it then?

[pwb]

29. Who is we? Not me and you for sure.

Peace to you.

[inthewind21]

24. But here

Let me help you out since you can't find it on your own.

"But exit polls quickly told a different story. While 90 percent of Black women voters supported Joe Biden, along with almost 70 percent of Hispanic women, the available data shows that up to 55 percent of white women voted for Trump. And while that number could change in the coming months, it’s clear that seemingly no discriminatory policies or hateful speech will stop these voters from supporting Trump, or the next candidate just like him."

https://www.thecut.com/2020/11/many-white-women-still-voted-for-trump-in-2020.html


There are even links, those are a neat thingy that will take you to to another set of numbers that will give you ALL of the voting numbers. The links are underlined and highlighted in blue!

[pwb]

26. Your nasty aren't you?

Fuck your link. It says white woman but what has happened to them and their daughters since then is what you don't seem to get? Done with you. I don't report people but I have friends here who might.

[inthewind21]

28. ok

[BlackSkimmer]

39. "I don't report people but I have friends here who might". Oh ooh.

Dude, get a grip.

You just attacked that poster directly and personally. Not cool.

And fyi, it would be "you're" not "your". "Your" implies possession, as in " I disagree with your opinion."

"You're" is a contraction of "you" and "are", as in "You're bragging you have friends who will help you on a thread."

[pwb]

41. A post from ten days ago?

Who arre you to cOrrect me on. anything? I don't care what you think when I disagree with someone.

[inthewind21]

45. Yet

Here YOU are, back 10 days later. Just saying.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

32. WTF

You're seriously blaming women for that traitor tosser getting elected, when far more men voted for him?

Pull the other one!

[pwb]

35. Read it again.

Slowly. Where did I blame anybody for anything. I said Woman will win this election for us. Pull this?

[inthewind21]

16. The ONLY way

this 'ride" ends is to take the House with a 20+ majority, take the Senate with a filibuster proof majority AND take the White House. As well as take several State Houses. And even then, the Supreme Court and all those federal judges STILL have lifetime appointments.

[pwb]

18. Exactly, that is what we will do.

Women will do it big time.

[Fiendish Thingy]

7. An Article V Constitutional Convention is mathematically impossible

Unless state legislatures that have already rejected a CC reverse themselves.

Do you know of any that might?

[The Grand Illuminist]

30. It all depends.

We must elect pro Article V Dems in the state legislatures.

[Fiendish Thingy]

31. Depends on what?

Enough state legislatures have rejected calling for a CC, that even if every remaining red state approved of a CC, it still wouldn’t meet the threshold to trigger a CC.

[The Grand Illuminist]

36. Don't underestimate the number of left leaners that also support a CC.

Time is a weapon.

[Fiendish Thingy]

37. Name the blue states you expect to support a CC and reach the threshold.

If you can’t, you’re just engaging in meaningless speculation.

[The Grand Illuminist]

43. If you look at the past.....

It is all about capability. Whether it passed or not


https://democraticunderground.com/10027314024

[Fiendish Thingy]

44. It is all about reality

A CC isn’t going to happen.

Any reversals of SCOTUS decisions will be via legislation combined with court expansion and court packing, not amending the constitution.

And that’s reality.

[Fiendish Thingy]

42. I don't underestimate them, but it's clear you overestimate them. Nt

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

33. It takes only 13 states to derail their stupid plans

By not voting for the changes proposed.

For pity's sake, they'd be lucky to get 34 to call for the convention in the first place. There are 15 hard core blue states that will never vote for such a thing:

California
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Hawaii
Illinois
Maryland
Massachusetts
Minnesota
New Jersey
New Mexico
Oregon
Rhode Island
Vermont
Washington

That's not counting purple-blue states that would never go for it, like Maine, Nevada and Virginia; all three are unlikely to have the votes in their own state assemblies for it. Plus, some of the founding states that are truer purple, like New Hampshire and Pennsylvania, would never go against that original colonies history.

That's 20 states that will not support something so stupid and anti-American; hence, why it's ridiculous to lose the plot on what has always been an urban myth.

[The Grand Illuminist]

34. In these times...

A convention is the only peaceful and civilized option left. Otherwise it is gonna be the hard way which I can't get into.

[LonePirate]

8. Don't they need 38 states to pass anything at this convention?

It's certainly worthy of concern but we're not at the doom and gloom stage just yet.

[2naSalit]

9. END GAME 101!!!

That is where they are headed and we had damned well make sure everybody knows that!

[inthewind21]

14. We've know

for decades that is "where they were headed".

[2naSalit]

21. It's good to...

Refresh the collective memory since we are constantly bombarded with outrageous bullshit on a daily basis.

[The Grand Illuminist]

10. Only 2 amendments is a possible lock in a convention

1. The Balanced Budget Amendment

2. The Line Item Veto Amendment

[BlackSkimmer]

40. No. nt