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Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 07:21 PM Apr 2023

I live in a rural area; the responses from the Sheriff's Department over time is telling

In the 24 years that I have lived and farmed in a rural Northern CA County on three occasions I have called the Sheriff’s Department about bullets coming onto my property. In 2005 or so it was someone shooting squirrels on a road a quarter of a mile away, but some kind of a weird hillside dynamic seems to have allowed the bullets to come up and into my pole barn where the man who worked for me then and I were standing. Very scary to have bullets whiz by us. But the Sheriff was able to go find the squirrel hunter and get them to stop. No problem, all were polite and professional and I was grateful.

Next time was around 2012 when my former neighbor had died and his methamphetamine addicted felon son was hallucinating "that bad guys were coming to get him”. He was standing at the top of a hill shooting high powered rifles down the 1/2 mile gravel road all the way to the highway. Neighbors that I called blocked the entrance to the road from the highway to prevent someone accidentally driving up it and getting shot. The Sheriff's Department had to send a swat team out, which took over an hour to assemble. That was a nightmare. Again, professionally handled and taken care of.

But just this last month, when bullets almost hit another worker near my barn, when I called the response was completely different. I was told that the people a quarter of a mile away who claimed to be shooting squirrels were allowed to shoot squirrels on their own property. And that unless someone was shot, or my car or house windows were shot out, to leave the Sheriff's Department alone and to stop bothering them! I was to stop bothering the Sheriff's Department unless someone had been shot or property damage had occurred.

What does this suggest? That there are so many shootings that they cannot be bothered with dealing with accidental stray shootings? That they have so many actual mortalities that just bullets whizzing by is not something that they have the time to address?

The people who were doing the squirrel shooting post lots of MTG stuff on their business website and just moved in a few years ago. Many neighbors call and complain to the Sheriff's Department about them. Is this because they (the Sheriff's Department) are sympathetic to these people and I just got lumped in with the other callers in the area, who have called for their own other reasons?

Who knows, but I would agree that the whole gun thing is so out of control, even here in California. A state with much stricter rules and regulations about firearms.

Not one of the reported shootings as of late surprises me at all. All one has to do is listen to the crazed AM radio guys or Faux news and the paranoia is just out of the ballpark.

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I live in a rural area; the responses from the Sheriff's Department over time is telling (Original Post) Tumbulu Apr 2023 OP
I know this doesn't solve the problem, but... ret5hd Apr 2023 #1
I'd guess it's ground squirrels being shot NickB79 Apr 2023 #10
Yes. The California Fish and Game Code classifies ground squirrels as nongame mammals. TeamProg Apr 2023 #17
The issue for me is bullets going out of a property Tumbulu Apr 2023 #20
Yep, I know. My point was on the angle that perhaps your neighbor was hunting without a hunting TeamProg Apr 2023 #38
Have you identified the calibre of the bullets? Maybe try to figure out HOW dangerous of a rifle TeamProg Apr 2023 #40
when I can take the time to look for the bullets Tumbulu Apr 2023 #43
If I am not mistaken, in my state shooting on or across someone's property without permission is Chainfire Apr 2023 #2
The point I was trying to share is that the Sheriff Tumbulu Apr 2023 #21
I would continue calling the sheriff's office when marybourg Apr 2023 #3
Same here Rebl2 Apr 2023 #16
I agree, but I think I will go in Tumbulu Apr 2023 #22
That's a very good idea. marybourg Apr 2023 #50
I think it's more that they don't give a shit and they're not gonna "harass" gun owners. Nevilledog Apr 2023 #4
I kinda as feel the same way Bristlecone Apr 2023 #15
That seems to be plausible Tumbulu Apr 2023 #23
THIS!!! Ferrets are Cool Apr 2023 #46
Had that happen once Red Mountain Apr 2023 #5
Sounds as though you took care of it. Tumbulu Apr 2023 #24
I'm inclined to suggest you get a gun, PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2023 #6
✔️♾️ live love laugh Apr 2023 #12
Maybe a 20 round cartridge in a semi would work. Actually, just the audio of something like that erronis Apr 2023 #19
Yes, haha- great plan! Tumbulu Apr 2023 #25
Want noise? Forget opera, school bands.... lastlib Apr 2023 #41
oh no. This calls for the 1 and only GLORIA JANE. She's a pait-re ut! Maru Kitteh Apr 2023 #74
That was actually my first thought, too... slightlv Apr 2023 #30
So, uhm, this is DU:GD..... right? Fla_Democrat Apr 2023 #51
It's my response to the fact that the police PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2023 #52
So, that's a yes? Fla_Democrat Apr 2023 #59
Yes, it is sarisataka Apr 2023 #55
Are you saying.... Fla_Democrat Apr 2023 #60
Maybe it's as common as spitting on a sidewalk is in the city? usonian Apr 2023 #7
Hope someone good runs for sheriff multigraincracker Apr 2023 #8
Our current Sheriff barely won against an super right Tumbulu Apr 2023 #26
So - all I want to know is .... James48 Apr 2023 #9
Haha! Tumbulu Apr 2023 #29
Sounds like you got a new sheriff LiberalArkie Apr 2023 #11
Same here Rebl2 Apr 2023 #18
It is the same sheriff, who barely won Tumbulu Apr 2023 #39
Reminds me of shooting some time ago. Woman called about a man acting off and toting a gun... Lancero Apr 2023 #13
It is horrible, and I remember that too. Tumbulu Apr 2023 #27
People are shooting people all the time now. yardwork Apr 2023 #14
It really is Tumbulu Apr 2023 #28
I'm glad you posted this. I'm noticing the same. yardwork Apr 2023 #32
Thank you- the problems Tumbulu Apr 2023 #33
I'm sorry, but from where I'm standing and reading slightlv Apr 2023 #31
I think that we could be in what Tumbulu Apr 2023 #36
I would try calling the CHP Moosepoop Apr 2023 #34
Thanks for the good idea, Tumbulu Apr 2023 #37
Fucking Sheriffs BlueIdaho Apr 2023 #35
Basically I hear you explaining, very logically and with meaningful personal anecdotes that you have Martin68 Apr 2023 #42
Wow, that is it exactly! Tumbulu Apr 2023 #44
No, your post was a powerful statement by someone who has actual experience of what they're are Martin68 Apr 2023 #47
thank you, again. Tumbulu Apr 2023 #49
We have a winner! DBoon Apr 2023 #53
Do you have any of the bullets? Old Crank Apr 2023 #45
thanks, good idea when I find them. Tumbulu Apr 2023 #48
Maybe go in to the office bright and early and speak directly to the Sheriff? maxsolomon Apr 2023 #54
I do plan on doing that Tumbulu Apr 2023 #61
I'd guess "There's a new Sheriff in Town" and he probably knows your neighbor. Ellipsis Apr 2023 #56
Seems plausible Tumbulu Apr 2023 #62
OT, but my dog would *love* to come fix the ground squirrel problem intrepidity Apr 2023 #57
oh what a wonderful dog! Tumbulu Apr 2023 #63
Can you go in person and file a police report? iscooterliberally Apr 2023 #58
thanks, will do. Mostly I was posting about the change Tumbulu Apr 2023 #64
Shoot back. sir pball Apr 2023 #65
The more I read, the more I learn. Fla_Democrat Apr 2023 #66
Hm? These animals only understand bullets. sir pball Apr 2023 #70
Well. I'm just not the killer... Fla_Democrat Apr 2023 #73
Somehow, this response does not seem as Tumbulu Apr 2023 #69
It would be extremely protective of your workers sir pball Apr 2023 #71
I am not sure if you are trying to be funny Tumbulu Apr 2023 #72
I'm out in the country too - womanofthehills Apr 2023 #67
Well that is an idea! It might terrify Tumbulu Apr 2023 #68

ret5hd

(22,502 posts)
1. I know this doesn't solve the problem, but...
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 07:30 PM
Apr 2023

for this particular situation (squirrel hunting) I wonder if the game ranger might be a better option. Maybe not affiliated with the people, and also knowledgable about any game/shooting laws.

NickB79

(20,356 posts)
10. I'd guess it's ground squirrels being shot
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 08:25 PM
Apr 2023

Not the tree squirrels that have a hunting season and one eats.

Ground squirrels are common across the US, basically a smaller version of a prairie dog that you can shoot year-round with no license because they're considered an agricultural pest. So, game warden wouldn't be any help either.

 

TeamProg

(6,630 posts)
17. Yes. The California Fish and Game Code classifies ground squirrels as nongame mammals.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 08:55 PM
Apr 2023

Legal Status

The California Fish and Game Code classifies ground squirrels as nongame mammals. An owner or tenant can control (“take”), in any legal manner, nongame mammals that are injuring growing crops or other property. Some species of tree squirrels, on the other hand, are classified as game animals (with a hunting season) that cannot be taken without a permit. See the Pest Notes: Tree Squirrels for more information.

No license is required for the management of California ground squirrels if it is the owner or tenant who is taking damaging ground squirrels. A trapping license from the California Department of Fish and Wildlife is required for those who are trapping squirrels for hire or profit.

Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
20. The issue for me is bullets going out of a property
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:18 PM
Apr 2023

Last edited Thu Apr 20, 2023, 10:01 PM - Edit history (1)

and how the Sheriff’s Department is responding now, versus in the past.

 

TeamProg

(6,630 posts)
38. Yep, I know. My point was on the angle that perhaps your neighbor was hunting without a hunting
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:51 PM
Apr 2023

license in which case you could make a case with the S.O..

One would think that having bullets whizz by should be enough for a Sheriff to write him up for 'unsafe shooting', geeez.
You're probably correct, guns are too normalized.

Ya know, I don't think that firing into, over or from a roadway or easement is legal. You might look that up.

Are you up near of north of the Ukiah area or way up toward Shasta?

 

TeamProg

(6,630 posts)
40. Have you identified the calibre of the bullets? Maybe try to figure out HOW dangerous of a rifle
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:57 PM
Apr 2023

he's shooting?

Having a pump shotgun around might not be a bad idea anyway, you could go with bird or buckshot. That would make an impression.


Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
43. when I can take the time to look for the bullets
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 10:03 PM
Apr 2023

I will. In the meantime, I just wanted to share to DU members this apparent change in attitude and response.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
2. If I am not mistaken, in my state shooting on or across someone's property without permission is
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 07:36 PM
Apr 2023

trespassing. You may want to look at that.

Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
21. The point I was trying to share is that the Sheriff
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:20 PM
Apr 2023

will not respond anymore unless someone is injured or there is property damage.

Either they are too busy with actual shootings or these new neighbors are their friends. Or both.

But, thanks for the good idea about reporting it as a trespass.

marybourg

(13,640 posts)
3. I would continue calling the sheriff's office when
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 07:38 PM
Apr 2023

life-threatening events, like bullets entering your property, occur. If you don’t, and something serious happens, you may be considered negligent also.

Red Mountain

(2,344 posts)
5. Had that happen once
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 07:43 PM
Apr 2023

Neighbors kids were shooting at 'squirrels'. Bullets whizzing through the trees and one hole in our siding. Not the first time for us or our neighbors.

Called the local sheriff and got.....not much. They said they would talk to them. Pretty sure they didn't bother.

I followed up with my neighbor. Not poor, educated but slimy. More than a little bit of a grifter.

Told him that I had called the law. Also that if any member of my family or any of my animals got hurt in the future I wouldn't bother to call them. I was careful not to directly threaten him.

Never happened again.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
6. I'm inclined to suggest you get a gun,
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 07:45 PM
Apr 2023

stand on your own property and shoot in the direction of the squirrel hunter.

erronis

(23,882 posts)
19. Maybe a 20 round cartridge in a semi would work. Actually, just the audio of something like that
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:11 PM
Apr 2023

might work.

We have an army ammo training base near us. I'm guessing very large rounds (155?) going at 5-10 pops per second. I'll record an audio for you if you'd like.

Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
25. Yes, haha- great plan!
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:26 PM
Apr 2023

Although my big fun idea was to go record Junior High bands practicing and blast that first. Then Opera. But yours is a novel idea.

lastlib

(28,271 posts)
41. Want noise? Forget opera, school bands....
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:58 PM
Apr 2023

Lou Reed album, Metal Machine Music.



Two minutes of it, at 100+ decibels, and he'll be screamin' for Mama. (Wear earmuffs when you play it....)

Fla_Democrat

(2,622 posts)
51. So, uhm, this is DU:GD..... right?
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 11:29 PM
Apr 2023

I know I didn't just read that someone should get a gun, and shoot in the direction of someone else.






PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
52. It's my response to the fact that the police
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 10:56 AM
Apr 2023

seem to see nothing wrong with the squirrel-hunting neighbor firing a gun in his direction, and he's nearly hit by bullets.

Fla_Democrat

(2,622 posts)
59. So, that's a yes?
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 09:29 PM
Apr 2023

Don't get me wrong, I am a big fan of Ida B. Wells, and have posted her quote more times than I can recall at this moment.

" Of the many inhuman outrages of this present year, the only case where the proposed lynching did not occur, was where the men armed themselves in Jacksonville, Fla., and Paducah, Ky, and prevented it. The only times an Afro-American who was assaulted got away has been when he had a gun and used it in self-defense.

The lesson this teaches and which every Afro-American should ponder well, is that a Winchester rifle should have a place of honor in every black home, and it should be used for that protection which the law refuses to give. When the white man who is always the aggressor knows he runs as great risk of biting the dust every time his Afro-American victim does, he will have greater respect for Afro-American life. The more the Afro-American yields and cringes and begs, the more he has to do so, the more he is insulted, outraged and lynched."
https://brian.carnell.com/articles/2017/ida-b-wells-on-gun-ownership/

I've always found it interesting that she specifically mentioned the Winchester rifle, which in the time of her quote, would have been a weapon of war, a military grade weapon. Pretty sure it was the same rifle Captain Nathan Algren was hawking in the beginning of The Last Samurai. But, I digress.....

The part of her quote... " and it should be used for that protection which the law refuses to give." doesn't seem to fit in this situation. Or at least, there are too many questions raised to say it in fact, does.

Clearly a deputy went out there, unless the dispatcher is clairvoyant, and knew what reason the shooter would claim. I am sure the shooter denied aiming at others property, and it becomes a he said/he said. Should the department put someone out on stake out? Maybe set up a chronograph to detect any high velocity objects flying through the air? With out physical evidence, a broken window, a slug in a car or house siding, a bleeding person, there is nothing to act on.

That being said..... maybe, if it is wrong for squirrel hunter to shoot indiscriminately, it is just as wrong for home owner to "stand on your own property and shoot in the direction of the squirrel hunter." But, I'm new here, still learning the rules governing firearms in good ol DU:GD.








sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
55. Yes, it is
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 12:31 PM
Apr 2023

Guns Discussion.

And yes you read that. We are against gun violence but not all gun violence...

Fla_Democrat

(2,622 posts)
60. Are you saying....
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 09:32 PM
Apr 2023

‘all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others’.








usonian

(25,325 posts)
7. Maybe it's as common as spitting on a sidewalk is in the city?
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 07:55 PM
Apr 2023

Foothills, and there's always someone playing with their toys. Maybe I'm lucky and they like shooting down canyons for the reverb, but I'm always worried, and take my activities to the opposite side of the house.

Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
26. Our current Sheriff barely won against an super right
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:29 PM
Apr 2023

wing guy who wanted to remove all the concealed carry restrictions.

The Sheriff’s Deputies were all for the super right wing guy. Our current Sheriff won on not repealing any gun laws.

James48

(5,215 posts)
9. So - all I want to know is ....
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 08:20 PM
Apr 2023

Is that a good squirrel with a gun?

Or a bad squirrel with a gun?


?FunnyWarAnimalSqu11

Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
39. It is the same sheriff, who barely won
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:54 PM
Apr 2023

against a guy running to repeal all the concealed carry permit requirements.

But the deputies are new, and maybe that is the thing. The newer deputies were all for the guy who wanted to repeal restrictions on concealed carry.

Lancero

(3,276 posts)
13. Reminds me of shooting some time ago. Woman called about a man acting off and toting a gun...
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 08:33 PM
Apr 2023

Dispatcher refused to do anything, because he wasn't a threat.

Five minutes later, he started shooting people. By the time the cops considered it a actual threat three people, iirc, were dead.

Really wish I could remember where this happened, though I suppose that its broad enough for it to be a common occurrence these days. Welcome to the new normal I guess.

Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
27. It is horrible, and I remember that too.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:31 PM
Apr 2023

I wonder what it will take for sensible gun regulation to occur.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
14. People are shooting people all the time now.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 08:35 PM
Apr 2023

Local stories, national stories. It's incredible.

Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
28. It really is
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:31 PM
Apr 2023

I only shared this to show how the response has changed over the decades.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
32. I'm glad you posted this. I'm noticing the same.
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:36 PM
Apr 2023

Im so sorry you're having to put up with that.

slightlv

(7,790 posts)
31. I'm sorry, but from where I'm standing and reading
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:35 PM
Apr 2023

it sounds like they've already declared war on us and are picking us off one by one, if not by mass. I hate to say this because I HATE guns in this environment, but maybe it's time the guns were turned on them?!

Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
36. I think that we could be in what
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:44 PM
Apr 2023

Might be described as a guerrilla civil war.

Only guerrilla because so many people cannot seem to believe it. These crazy off type authoritarians used to be just ignored. Now they have seized control of the Courts, local law enforcement, local schools, libraries. And the House of Representatives. We remain in precarious times.

Moosepoop

(2,075 posts)
34. I would try calling the CHP
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 09:40 PM
Apr 2023

If the county law enforcement won't act, try calling the state.

https://www.chp.ca.gov/notify-chp

I don't know how effective that might be in California, but here in Michigan calling the state police gets action when the local law enforcement is lacking. It might be worth a try, anyway.

Good luck, and stay safe!!

Martin68

(27,749 posts)
42. Basically I hear you explaining, very logically and with meaningful personal anecdotes that you have
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 10:03 PM
Apr 2023

witnessed over time a change in the attitude of local law enforcement towards crimes or incidents involving firearms. That change seems to be in the direction of feeling that unless a serious crime has taken place, - murder, serious physical injury, robbery - the misuse of firearms, and a disregard for basic gun safety procedures, is no longer considered worthy of law enforcement time and resources.

I would like to suggest that conservatives across the nation, and local law enforcement authorities (who generally lean towards the conservative side of the political spectrum), have decided that any action taken against the public misuse of firearms - even when they spur local citizens to report them when they feel endangered - is no longer to be responded to because right wing politicians will bring the full force of local government down on anybody who "complains" about anything remotely related to guns. Any hint of gun safety laws are considered dangerous and a serious threat to gun rights, and citizen reports are viewed in that light.

Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
44. Wow, that is it exactly!
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 10:08 PM
Apr 2023

Thank you!

I was not seeking advice, I was just trying to share this personal observation, that you have articulated far more succinctly.

Martin68

(27,749 posts)
47. No, your post was a powerful statement by someone who has actual experience of what they're are
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 10:31 PM
Apr 2023

Last edited Thu Apr 20, 2023, 11:43 PM - Edit history (1)

talking about. Great examples, and clear plea for a better understanding of the issue.

DBoon

(24,988 posts)
53. We have a winner!
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 12:15 PM
Apr 2023

That and anyone who complains about firearm misuse gets tagged as a gun grabbing "lib" who should be humored at best.

Old Crank

(7,078 posts)
45. Do you have any of the bullets?
Thu Apr 20, 2023, 10:12 PM
Apr 2023

Perhaps a short presentation at the county commissioners meeting. Can be in public comments about the lack of response. They can take no action then and have little jurisdiction but might talk to the sheriff because they don't want to get dragged into the issue.
If you can find damage document it.

Good luck.

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
54. Maybe go in to the office bright and early and speak directly to the Sheriff?
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 12:26 PM
Apr 2023

Find out if that non-response is policy or not.

intrepidity

(8,582 posts)
57. OT, but my dog would *love* to come fix the ground squirrel problem
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 04:27 PM
Apr 2023

He's a compulsive critter hunter/digger.

If those guns are filling those rodents with lead, that's also very bad for the birds and other scavengers. Wonder if/when Fish & Game will do anything about that?

Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
63. oh what a wonderful dog!
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 10:03 PM
Apr 2023

yes, always an issue with these varmint hunting. I think CA banned lead a while ago.

iscooterliberally

(3,157 posts)
58. Can you go in person and file a police report?
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 04:37 PM
Apr 2023

I don't know how far you are from the closest police station, but I would file a report with each incident if you can. That way you start building a well documented case. It's a lot harder for the cops to just blow you off when you're right in front of them demanding to file a report. You want it well documented that these bullets are coming from another property in case someone does get killed or injured. You need to protect yourself from the worst outcome. If you can take a witness with you to file that report, all the better. Once the incident is in an official report that changes everything. Good luck!

Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
64. thanks, will do. Mostly I was posting about the change
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 10:04 PM
Apr 2023

in the attitude of law enforcement around my area.

sir pball

(5,340 posts)
65. Shoot back.
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 10:06 PM
Apr 2023

Obviously your sheriff doesn't care, so you'll either teach them a lesson, or…well, a few less of that family alive to vote is good.

Not like you're endangering anything of value.

sir pball

(5,340 posts)
70. Hm? These animals only understand bullets.
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 11:57 PM
Apr 2023

Using words doesn't work on them. The only thing that will correct them is an overwhelming response, ten bullets for every one they fire. A perforated home is the only message their animal brains understand. It's so cute you think you can deal with these creatures like they're human

Fla_Democrat

(2,622 posts)
73. Well. I'm just not the killer...
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 12:18 AM
Apr 2023

other people think they are.

You do you, Boo. Stack up and teach them 'animals' a lesson. Let us know how it works out for you.













Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
69. Somehow, this response does not seem as
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 10:57 PM
Apr 2023

though it would be very protective of the people who come to help me work on my farm.

I wrote this post to show how things have changed with law enforcement’s interest and or ability to deal with bullets straying off of peoples properties.

sir pball

(5,340 posts)
71. It would be extremely protective of your workers
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 12:01 AM
Apr 2023

Animals only understand force — the creatures shooting at you won't understand police, nor lawsuits, nor restraining orders. The only language these feral critters speak is bullets, I'd answer in kind. What are they gonna do, call the cops?

Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
72. I am not sure if you are trying to be funny
Sat Apr 22, 2023, 12:08 AM
Apr 2023

but the purpose of my post was to share how things have changed in regards response by authorities to gunfire incidents.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
67. I'm out in the country too -
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 10:41 PM
Apr 2023

Have had a similar problem. On Amazon you can buy a megaphone with Siren 50 Watt Law Enforcement Bullhorn.. I hear shots, I use the police bullhorn. They think the cops are coming. It kind of confuses them and they usually stop. I mainly got it to call my dogs if either one gets out of my range.

Tumbulu

(6,630 posts)
68. Well that is an idea! It might terrify
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 10:53 PM
Apr 2023

my sheep and make the dogs all go crazy. But so do the gun shots.

Thanks for the idea!

I posted this to illuminate the change in the reaction of law enforcement over two decades to gun fire incidents in my area.

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