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RandySF

(84,260 posts)
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 02:07 AM Apr 2023

Oakland mayor blindsided by A's bombshell Vegas deal amid negotiations

OAKLAND — Following months and months of uncertainty, Oakland thought it was inching closer to a deal for a new waterfront ballpark for the Oakland A’s this week, negotiating daily to keep one of baseball’s storied franchises in the city it had called home for five decades.

Then, in an instant, it was over.

On Wednesday evening, Mayor Sheng Thao received an unexpected call from A’s President Dave Kaval. He kept his words brief: “Heads up, we have a land deal in Las Vegas.”

Hours later, the A’s dropped the same bombshell on the rest of Oakland — that the team was nearing an agreement to buy land in Las Vegas and build a $1 billion, 35,000-seat ballpark a mile off the strip, finally ditching the Coliseum in East Oakland that Kaval has spent the past couple years disparaging.

The team and city had been “in mid-negotiations — the closest we’ve ever been to landing a deal,” Thao said. But troubling signs permeated the talks.

“At every opportunity, the A’s have made increasing demands on Oakland,” Thao said at a news conference Thursday, a day after she announced that negotiations for the waterfront development were dead. “And at every opportunity, we have risen to the challenge and overcome the hurdles placed before us.”




https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/04/20/oakland-mayor-blindsided-by-as-bombshell-vegas-deal-amid-negotiations/

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Oakland mayor blindsided by A's bombshell Vegas deal amid negotiations (Original Post) RandySF Apr 2023 OP
The A's would move from the stadium with the largest seating capacity to the second smallest. LonePirate Apr 2023 #1
Their stadium is currently empty anyway Sympthsical Apr 2023 #4
rest assured no matter where they go taxpyers are gonna be screwed out of $$ nt msongs Apr 2023 #2
THIS 👍 TheBlackAdder Apr 2023 #3
Las Vegas Florida Bull Apr 2023 #5
There's a lot of money in Oakland so they can't balme anyone... brush Apr 2023 #6
You can't blame Oakland. They've been trying to get a new stadium for years Buckeyeblue Apr 2023 #7

LonePirate

(14,367 posts)
1. The A's would move from the stadium with the largest seating capacity to the second smallest.
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 02:23 AM
Apr 2023

It would miss being the smallest by only a couple hundred seats. Barring a huge mark-up in ticket prices, which is a possibility in Las Vegas where tickets for everything are very expensive, they plan on recouping that $1B via other methods, probably government subsidies, huge sponsorship deals, inflated concessions and merchandise pricing and maybe media rights. Parking may not be a large source of revenue either like it is for many teams.

So the financing of the stadium and the long term profit motive are certainly questionable here.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
4. Their stadium is currently empty anyway
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 02:36 AM
Apr 2023

Most of the times I've gone, the entire upper deck is closed. They're just poorly attended games. The SF Giants are the more popular Bay Area team by a very long way.

Mix in a rise in crime (in the area and on BART - but BART in particular can be a wretched experience in that area) and people just don't want to go. Covid pretty much killed the A's once and for all. They're below 10k average attendance the past two years compared to the Giants' 30k.

With the loss of the Raiders to Vegas and the Warriors to the Chase Center in SF, Oakland pretty much doesn't have a sports scene anymore.

It's a shame.

Florida Bull

(103 posts)
5. Las Vegas
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 02:53 AM
Apr 2023

Las Vegas now seems like a very popular destination for professional sports teams. Just recently, an NHL team and an NFL team. Now, apparently an MLB team. There is also speculation about the NBA possibly expanding in Las Vegas. Soon to be 3 out of 4, and potentially all 4 sports leagues. That is not particularly common, even for moderately large cities.

San Diego, Portland, Salt Lake City, and Nashville each have only 1 major professional sports team, and even Houston lacks an NHL team.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
6. There's a lot of money in Oakland so they can't balme anyone...
Fri Apr 21, 2023, 04:22 AM
Apr 2023

but the city itself for not replacing the Coliseum, the worst facility in sports. It should've been replaced decades ago as it's been horrible for years.

I live in Vegas (formerly in Berkeley) but wanted the Raiders to stay in Oakland, their birthplace, but the city couldn't keep them either because of that horrible stadium.

It's sad, tha Warriors are gone too. What a shame, all the tightwads doing nothing for years to keep the teams. Sad.

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