House GOP Leaders Won't Change Debt Limit Bill

[applegrove]

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House GOP Leaders Won’t Change Debt Limit Bill

April 24, 2023 at 4:13 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 34 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2023/04/24/house-gop-leaders-wont-change-debt-limit-bill/

"SNIP........

“House GOP leaders are waving off calls from rank-and-file Republicans for changes to their debt-limit proposal,” Politico reports.

“Instead, they’re plowing ahead toward a floor vote this week, daring detractors to vote against it.”

..........SNIP"

Applegrove:

I pray the hedge funds and private equity are not calling for a stock market crash so they can gobble up small and medium sized businesses in distress. They are so desperate to find new ventures because there is too much money chasing too few opportunities. Why they have gone into real estate and warped the market. Why they are about to move into daycare. The stock market is overpriced, bond prices are coming down. There is nowhere to invest. But if the US defaulted on its debts 'Shake & Bake, Baby. Shake and Bake' Ka ching! Ka ching!

[James48]

1. Disaster looms ahead.

I’m a retired federal enployee.

All my life I’ve seen these right-wing idiots play with the debt ceiling. This is the time they are going to screw it up and default.
You’ll see. It’s not going to be nice, and it’s going to be directly on them.

[applegrove]

2. I hope you are wrong. If they do tank the economy the ads write themselves: Republicans - tanking

the economy since 2007.

[wnylib]

27. World wide effects if they do. Worse than the Great Depression.

[wnylib]

26. They will try to pin it on Biden.

I suspect that they DO want a crash. It would be horrendous, with ripple or wave consequences around the world. They are determined to bring it all down.

[617Blue]

3. It will pass because it's the only game in town for them.

As usually the "moderates" will eat the shit sandwich that the freedom caucus serves them.

[Cha]

21. We'll see about that doom & gloom.

[Chainfire]

4. They intend to start a fire so that they can rise from the ashes.

[ananda]

5. And it will have a very bad smell... like burning shit.

Evil smiley here.

[Oneironaut]

10. Yep.

“Biden destroyed the economy! See why you need our Fascist policies?”

They don’t care, because they’ve got theirs.

[Midnight Writer]

6. We need ads showing the results of their proposed cuts.

The Biden Administration is pushing back, showing drastic cuts to the VA and safety inspections.

They put their proposal out there. Now let's show the American voters exactly what they will get by letting these lunatics have power.

[Oneironaut]

13. Sadly, Americans are fucking stupid, and have an extremely basic idea of how the economy works.

All they need to see is “Stock market bad!” and that’s it. They don’t even know how the stock market works, or, how it doesn’t actually benefit them in any way. That’s why Americans are suckers for
Capitalist propaganda.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

17. Suckers for capitalist propaganda and war propaganda, an educational void filled by cons.

Really sad to see how easily American led by the nose by big media.

Remember The Dixie Chicks?!

[Phoenix61]

7. Veterans are almost all safe R votes. Pissing them off seems like a

bad strategy. Like pushing nonsense COVID cures and anti-vax bs. But hey, never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

[maxrandb]

8. No, veterans that vote Retrumplican are just like ALL Retrumplican voters

they will continue to vote for Retrumplicans, as long as Retrumplicans continue to promise to hurt the Americans that Retrumplican voters most want to hurt.

[Phoenix61]

9. I think it will cost them votes. It was all fun and games

as long as someone else was getting hurt. When they are the ones getting hurt it’s a different story.

[TeamProg]

11. +1

[mucifer]

12. Except they will believe anything bad will come from President Biden

because that is what they are told to believe.

[Phoenix61]

14. Sure, some will but not all and those are the votes they will lose.

Elections are won on the slimmest of margins. Anything they do that shaves any points off is a win for Dems.

[Farmer-Rick]

15. Not all Veterans are GQP voters

I am retired military and never voted for a Republican in my entire life. But alot of the vets are GQP voters. I went to a Veteran's fair last month and I was surprised so many of the Vets I met there were liberal. Many of them are also sitting on the fence.

But as soon as the GQP starts taking away benefits like free counseling, cuts in military retirement pay and cuts in disability pay (Which Trump did do to Veterans with less than 50% disability in order to give the filthy rich a tax giveaway, but Biden restored them.) those vets are going to turn on the GQP. We have some very strong lobbying groups that won't stay quiet for very long.

[Phoenix61]

25. +1! nt

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

23. WTF? Shame on you!

Veterans are not the borg. The actives aren't the borg, either. Plenty of them are not rw thugs.

Again, SHAME ON YOU for saying something so divorced from reality, and so outright bigoted, especially given the many veterans *right here on DU* who are anything but rw thugs.

[Phoenix61]

24. Chill your outrage. I didn't say all. As a block, they vote R.

It’s a true statement. It’s like saying Floridians, as a block, vote R. That too is a true statement. The fact I’m a Floridian, as are other DUers, doesn’t change that fact. I have to wonder if you’ve spent any time at any VFW.

[mwooldri]

16. Let me know if this is wrong.

The R controlled House can pass its bill. Once it passes to the D controlled-ish Senate the bill can be revised and then it goes back to the R controlled House for final vote.

If this is the case, what's to stop Schumer from stripping out all the bad bits and sending back in essence a clean debt limit bill back to the House?

Or am I being naive here?

[Alexander Of Assyria]

18. Wrong! Republicans have no budget and no party platform so it's all just a con.

What is there to negotiate??

Pay the credit bill or not at the credit card bill honey? Annual argument in America.

Good thing the annual ritual doesn’t cause any economic or moral harm, or that no other nation is watching….and laughing.

[SouthernDem4ever]

22. It's supposed to work that way

but seldom does anymore. Usually it is just a bunch of grandstanding until all the background work gets done getting everyone to agree on the vote. No one's mind is ever changed by honest debate anymore.

[orleans]

19. solution: just pay the fucking bills anyway nt

[BlueIdaho]

20. Oh they will change soon enough.

They always do - once the public rightfully blames the GQP for yet another budget related political stunt - they will beg to sign any deal they are offered. Same as it ever was.