Manchin needs to go fuck himself

[Nevilledog]

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Press release from Sen. Manchin's office after his Hannity appearance: MANCHIN THREATENS TO REPEAL INFLATION REDUCTION ACT
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7:35 PM · Apr 24, 2023

This jag off needs to take a long walk off a short pier.

[onecaliberal]

1. X10000000000000

[Bev54]

2. What good is he, really, for the dems. If they can gain one more in the senate then he

can go, he is nothing but a pain in the ass, always trying to use his power.

[TomSlick]

34. That's a big "if."

Until the Dems have a majority without him, Manchin is essential. Manchin remarkably wins re-election as a Democrat in West Virginia. There is not another Democrat who can win a statewide election in West Virginia. Even if the Dems win a majority in the Senate in the next election, better a barely Democrat than a solid MAGAt in the seat.

Yeah, he's a right-wing jerk. However, he's our right wing jerk.

[Bev54]

35. My concern is the dems have to tip toe around him. I was so hoping they would have 52 members

in 2022 but no such luck. I just hope for at least a 52 dem majority so they can tell him to piss off.

[TomSlick]

37. If the Dems have a clear majority after 2022, they can hurt Manchin most by simply ignoring him.

He can fade back into irrelevance where he belongs.

[DemocraticPatriot]

38. I don't believe even Manchin can win West Virginia in 2024.

His approval ratings in the state are far underwater, and the current governor is going to run against him.

He's FINISHED, IMHO.

[TomSlick]

46. That would be unfortunate.

Manchin cannot be counted on for vote with Democrats most of the time, but he would vote with the Democrats in the leadership vote.

[NewHendoLib]

3. yep - good ol' Dino Manchin.

[DemocraticPatriot]

4. He needs to be pushed

sick of his bullshit


"Democrat" ? BULLSHIT!!!!


the fucker is "on his knees" for the republican talking points....


we can pretty much count on that West Virginia senate seat being lost to the Democrats---

no matter how far you bend over for the Republicans,
they won't remember it when they mark their ballot.

[Walleye]

8. That's right I'm betting to the one that he loses his reelection

[DemocraticPatriot]

10. West Virginia is GONE.

Without a HUGE nationwide Democratic turnout, I don't see how it is possible for the Democrats to continue to control the US Senate...
Montana and Ohio are also in danger in 2024...


On the other hand, I don't see how it will be possible for Republicans to continue to control the House,
with the narrow margin and all their stupid bullshit...

I think the Democrats will win at least 4 seats in New York, which they should have won,
and other seats elsewhere--- giving them the majority in 2024.

[Midnight Writer]

23. So am I, but I hope he wins.

[Walleye]

25. I hope he wins too, but I wouldn't put it past her 50th party

[dalton99a]

5. What a goddamn asshole.

[madaboutharry]

6. If democrats could add a couple of seats to the Senate...

Then this pain in the ass loses his power.

The way Manchin behaves, constantly threatening democrats with his vote, is evidence of what a terrible and corrupt person he is. He values power and money and self promotion.

[brooklynite]

13. Name "a couple of seats" that are winnable.

[wryter2000]

32. You have a good point

Replacing Sinema with a good Dem would go a long way toward making Manchin irrelevant. Of course, we'd have to hold on to our other seats.

[Mad_Machine76]

7. Didn't he vote for it?!

[Nevilledog]

18. Of course he did

Link to tweet

[Freethinker65]

9. Manchin once again pissed because he has to share some of his taxpayer subsidies.

He knows this is his last term as Senator and his posturing and threats are getting tiring.

[Kennah]

11. Forget it, Nevilledog. It's West Virginia.

Manchin will only be replaced with a further to the right asshat Republican.

[Nevilledog]

17. Justice is gonna run and whip his ass. Bad for us.

[Kennah]

19. I think you're right

Manchin is a fairweather 51st D vote, but Justice will be a solid R vote.

[Fiendish Thingy]

20. Not that bad IMO

If he’s threatening to sabotage Biden’s presidency, then 2025 isn’t soon enough for him to retire from the senate.

The other saboteur from AZ will also be gone in 2025, replaced with Senator Gallego.

If we don’t keep the senate in 2024, we can take comfort in the fact that the next time Dems have a majority, it will be without these two. If Dems do keep the senate in 2024, it will also be without those two.

I’d call that a win/win.

[brooklynite]

12. Not to worry; when Jim Justice replaces him you'll have nothing to complain about.

[Staph]

14. Manchin is running for re-election in 2024 against some serious Trumpists.

He's making noise for the voters back home.

The two leading candidates are current governor Jim Justice, coal baron, who, much like TFG, doesn't like to pay his bills or employees; and current congressman Alex Mooney, who's under investigation for accepting gifts and trips and for using his staff for personal and family matters. Mooney already has endorsements from Ted Cruz and Rand Paul.

So be careful wishing that Manchin would walk off that short pier. You may get your wish and find his replacement will make Tommy Tuberville look brilliant and make Josh Hawley look patriotic.

[W_HAMILTON]

22. And it probably won't matter, which means he is shitting on Democrats as a whole...

...for what will likely be his failed bid for reelection.

I'd rather cut ties with Manchin and put all of our efforts into getting Gallego to take over for Sinema and securing all other Democratic seats in 2024. With a Biden win, that would mean we still maintain control over the Senate -- and in a much better position than we are today with the constant threat of Sinema/Manchin knifing us in the back.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

29. I'd suggest looking at the 2024 Senate election.

We have an uphill battle to keep seats that we hold in red states, and few (if any) pick-up opportunities.

Beating Cruz, Rick Scott, or Josh Hawley are about are only hopes, and those are not probable.

[Torchlight]

30. Sounds serious.

Good luck

[Just A Box Of Rain]

31. Whatever that means.

[W_HAMILTON]

40. I have, which is why I said what I did.

It's an uphill battle, but it's far from impossible, which is probably the odds of Manchin winning reelection.

Crazy to think that his constant kowtowing to conservatives and crapping on Democrats won't end up benefiting him one bit in the end. Who would have thunk it?!

[Just A Box Of Rain]

43. However one wishes to describe Joe Manchin

He has been a solid vote for the Democratic leadership in the Senate.

I think that gets forgotten around here.

With the Senate as tight as it is, and virtually no pick-ups looking likely for us in 2024 (along with some very tough seats that we need to hold), I'd love to see Joe Manchin get reelected as a Democrat in W Virginia.

Could be all the difference between a Democratic minority and a Democratic majority. I strongly prefer the latter scenario.

[W_HAMILTON]

44. He's also been a huge thorn in our side and has almost single-handedly...

...derailed more expansive Democratic bills and other initiatives.

I would have absolutely no problem giving all of the money that might go towards defending Manchin's seat to Tester and helping him defend his seat. All the positives you can say about Manchin, they apply even more to Tester, without nearly the amount of criticism.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

45. And it is still far more preferable--in my estimation--to have Manchin as a maverick

in our Democratic coalition, as opposed to losing his seat to a Republican. And by many orders of magnitude.

DU "group-think" strikes me a very non-strategic on this point.

Jon Tester is going to need a lot of support. His is a race in unfriendly territory. But thinking we can only support Tester or Manchin is a false dichotomy.

We will need every damn seat in the Senate.

[Celerity]

41. The structural damage he is doing to our party and our candidates nationwide with his bollocks

FAR outweighs his posturings for a bunch of Rethug mouthbreathers back in the hollows of WV.

He is literally providing (and giving in-party Dem validation to) Rethug talking points that will be used nationwide to hammer us with the wavering centre and the low turnout types. It is anti-Democratic voter suppression and voter stripping away from us done by ONE OF OUR OWN.

[617Blue]

47. He'd have to join the KKK to make headway

with the people he's trying to reach.

I know there are many here who value his presence in the Senate and I know he's cast many good votes but I can't wait until he's gone. And he will be gone.

[Beautiful Disaster]

15. He can threaten all he wants - it's not going to happen anyway.

[Cha]

16. He's awfully fond of himself.

[Nictuku]

21. What a Dick!

[Warpy]

24. Manchin will most likely get replaced by a Republican

and it might even be that Justus character.

Part of me wonders if anyone will notice.

[camartinwv]

26. I despise Joe Manchin. Ex-WV here. He will be replace by a Repub or switch parties.

[maxrandb]

27. He might as well threaten to fart his way to the moon

A repeal of the IRA would never pass the Senate, let alone survive a sure presidential veto.

He is just so fucking lazy.

He could actually get out and work his ass off to show West Virginia voters how much they have benefited from Democratic policies, but it's much easier to throw up your hand and say; you could "never punch through the racism and misogyny".

The part of leadership that Manchin and his ilk, on both sides of the aisle forget, is LEADERSHIP.

It's much easier to go with the flow. Why, if 60% of your constituents want to hang Mike Pence, why waste your time trying to change minds? Just go get a rope.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

28. We will rue the day when Manchin doesn't hold the W Virginia Senate seat.

For whatever positions he holds that are out of alignment with the rest of the party, Manchin at the least has helped us hold the Senate majority as he represents a deep-red state.

[617Blue]

48. He's gone no matter what he does

trying to be GOPer won't help him.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

50. Manchin has been a Democrat his entire political life.

Trying to hound him out of the Democratic coalition is very bad thinking IMO.

[617Blue]

51. Oh please - he'd switch in a minute if it would save his skin

His disrespect for Biden and the Dem caucus is intolerable. He goes out of his way to do it publicly (Fox) in the hopes of impressing people he can't impress.

Good fucking riddance to him.

If he wanted to win WV he'd come out as a strong Dem, embrace Biden and the good things that have been accomplished. Things he freaking voted for. God it wasn't that long ago that WV was solidly Dem. Trying to win re election by having it both ways never works. At least he'd go down honorably.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

52. How do you figure? Joe Manchin has been an elected Democratic office holder for over 40 years.

He could have switched parties at any time. He has not. Instead he has helped make Schumer the Senate Majority Leader.

Not "good riddance." He leaves, or is defeated and we lose a critical seat in deep-red W Virginia.

Let's not engage in self-sabotage.

[617Blue]

53. Shelby from AL was a Dem once too

If Gov Justice (who Manchin cannot beat in a general or a hypothetical GOP primary)
were not running I have no doubt Manchin would switch.

His disdain for the party is clear. I'm not looking for people all be in lockstep all of the time, but there's a way to get your views heard. He makes a great show of dragging the party as publicly as possible.

I won't miss him.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

54. So what?

Joe Manchin is a Democrat and has been an elected Democrat for more than 40 years.

There is zero justification for claims the he "would switch."

This is bashing a Democratic figure. Pure and simple.

When/if the Republican get a one-seat majority in the Senate with Machin gone, I'll sure miss him.

[617Blue]

55. I think he operates in bad faith.

We will have to agree to disagree.

Either way that seat is gone.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

56. It isn't gone yet.

When the seat goes/if it goes, it will damage the Democratic Party.

I think trying to hound Manchin out is the most surversive action Democrats could take to harm ourselves.

Not smart. Plays into the hands of our enemies.

[617Blue]

57. The best outcome

and not very likely at all, is that Manchin wins and the Dems pickup enough seats so that his self serving outbursts don't threaten good pieces of legislation.

[GoodRaisin]

33. Almost sounds like he's posturing to switch parties. nt

[tritsofme]

36. If he can pull off a dance where he manages to win reelection in a state where Biden didn't hit 30%

I don’t really care what he says.

[madinmaryland]

39. Ted Cruz could give Manchin some dildos to make that happen.

[Celerity]

42. He literally is throwing Biden under the bus on the default, and doing so as a Democrat makes it far

more impactful.



If a progressive did this, the howls from most (if not all) of the 'Manchin-can-do-no-wrong-that-I-will-not-rationalise-and-excuse-away' brigade would be so loud that my eardrums would be in danger of bursting over here across the Atlantic in Sweden.

[NotVeryImportant]

49. When is it OK to criticize a Democratic politician like this?

I'd hate to run afoul of the powers that be, so, what are the rules?

[Celerity]

58. When that politician is shitting all over the Democratic POTUS and the rest of the party, trying to

appease a small chunk of Rethug shitbags back in WV, and that politician is thus doing far more damage to the whole of our Party and our POTUS than he is aiding one person (himself), then yes, you are going to see that politician (Manchin) barracked by some here.

You will also see some defend him no matter what he does, or come damn close to doing so. I would hope there is some limit to what even the most hardcore of Manchin supporters will accept. You already see this (his Dem-slamming posturing in the OP) is not reaching that limit.