How do you feel about Biden? "But his age" "I prefer a different candidate"

[Stinky The Clown]

Eugene Robinson, on Morning Joe, then cited the follow-up question:

"Would you vote for a Republican or Joe Biden?"

"Oh, no question. Biden all the way."





I, for one, am very happy to know he's running again.

[samplegirl]

1. I really like Biden

but wish it was Eric Swalwell or Adam Schiff

[Texin]

63. I like Biden. His age isn't ideal, but right now, I can't think of anyone in the party

except perhaps Gavin Newsome who would be ready for primetime. I absolutely adore both Swalwell and Schiff, but I don't think either one could be the standard bearer of a national election, at least at this point.

The thing I worry about is RFK, Jr. taking a certain percentage of the vote away from Biden because the crazies out there who are anti-vaxxers (of any kind). Any third party candidate makes the outcome of an election iffy. When one factors in the baked-in certainty that roughly one-third of the population is in the tank for Trump/GQP hardcore Nazis, any third party candidate makes for a dicey situation. Trump may not even be a factor going forward because of his looming court battles, and even though some think it would help his chances, I disagree; I tend to think it'll only highlight what a worthless piece of shit crook he is and has been since he was two year old delinquent that even his own mother wouldn't have anything to with him.

[oldsoftie]

83. Kennedy wont beat Biden.

And if he ran 3rd party he'd get more GOP votes than Dem because a lot of the anti vax crowd LOVE him.

[Texin]

143. I'm not worried about Kennedy "beating" Biden. I'm concerned about him the number of

voters he could be responsible for taking away from Biden from anti-vaxx Dems and Independent voters (and don't try to tell me that there ARE No Dems who could possibly be anti-vaxxers, because anyone will tell you there are people of all stripes who are vaccine avoiders). The anti vaccine people were initially influenced by affluent, well educated politicians and entertainment industry people who linked childhood autism with children's vaccines. That's how the entire thing got its footing long before tRump made it a political weapon).

[oldsoftie]

145. Oh I'm sure there are some Dems who are anti vax. But not the # of GOP

But if he DID run as a 3rd party, he'd take a lot more GOP votes than Dem votes. And what party would it be for? Its not easy getting on the ballot

[Texin]

144. I'm not worried about Kennedy "beating" Biden. I'm concerned

he could be responsible for taking votes away from Biden from anti-vaxx Dems and Independent voters (and don't try to tell me that there ARE No Dems who could possibly be anti-vaxxers, because anyone will tell you there are people of all stripes who are vaccine avoiders). The anti vaccine people were initially influenced by affluent, well educated politicians and entertainment industry people who linked childhood autism with children's vaccines. That's how the entire thing got its footing long before tRump made it a political weapon).

[Demsrule86]

247. Newsome will not win the rustbelt this year.

[Texin]

250. I'm not sure a Democrat will ever "win the Rustbelt" in the foreseeable future.

Things are going to have change exponentially for that to happen. Those cultures are inculcated.

[Phoenix61]

2. In almost every other culture age is revered because with it

comes wisdom. We are one of the few that reveres youth.

[AntivaxHunters]

22. LoL no with age doesn't come wisdom

Trump will be 78. He ain't no wise man. So let's put a rest to that saying right here right now 😂

[Phoenix61]

29. You're wrong.

Wisdom does come with age. There is a depth of understanding older people have that is born of life experience.
I didn’t think I needed to add, except for those who suffer from personality disorders that make learning impossible. But ok
Except for those suffering from personality disorders that make learning impossible.

[Meowmee]

54. Agree

[AntivaxHunters]

108. That's what I said lol

[whopis01]

123. But merely being the oldest person in the room does not make one the wisest person in the room.

Experience and learning from experience is the source of wisdom. Of course that takes time, but there is far more to it than merely ticking off the years.

[Phoenix61]

137. True, but without the years that learning can't happen. nt

[Silent3]

165. It seems those "personality disorders that make learning impossible" aren't that rare

Sadly a lot of people just get more narrow-minded and stubborn with age, and underlying problems like conspiratorial thinking and paranoia often intensify.

Considering that Trump and Republicans in general are most popular with senior citizens, the age/wisdom connection is failing a bit too often.

[treestar]

51. not with all

but with people who have intellect and ability and compassion - yes, it can.

[Rebl2]

85. Well Trump

wasn’t a wise man when he was young or middle aged or now! Always been evil and egotistical and will never change.

[Demsrule86]

176. Trump is and always was an idiot...Biden smart. One of the reasons he has been so successful

is a great deal of experience which comes with age and years in the Senate, the vice-presidency, and the Presidency.

[Rural_Progressive]

42. In almost every other culture

Elders take their place as revered consultants and advisors. They hand over the reins of governance to the younger generations. This is how it is done in order to prepare the next generations for leadership while they still have support from older and wiser elders.

That's what Biden said he was going to do, prepare younger members of Congress to take the lead. He said he was going to be a transition president. I wish he had chosen to honor his word.

[Phoenix61]

44. Oh please. Who do you think stands a snowballs chance in

hell of winning against Trump? Seriously? Who?

[Demsrule86]

248. I think Trump goes down in flames. He won't win a general.

[treestar]

52. what culture does that?

[inthewind21]

96. So

what was all that hoopla about in 2016 with Bernie Sanders from "young people"? And newsflash, Biden DID do what he said he was going to to. Looked at the congress lately? This whole get rid of the "old" we want new, well, produce the new. You do realize all of congress is elected right? Get all these young magical, going to fix everything candidates elected!

[betsuni]

114. +1

[JI7]

48. Yes, but they can be too extreme also

[kentuck]

3. Democrats will unite behind Biden and Harris...

Because, there is no alternative.

[Tribetime]

40. I 100% agree my question is what will Independents do

If Drumph is not nominated

[FalloutShelter]

4. I am so tired of the equivocation

About Joe. He is the single best President of my lifetime and I’ll be 70 this year.

We are lucky to have him in leadership for every single minute he remains President and the , should his health fail him, Kamala will be a great successor.

PERIOD.



LETS GO JOE

[True Blue American]

7. I am with you all the way on this one!

President Biden was and is my choice! I see him ranking right up there and remember FDR
clearly from my childhood.

His accomplishments are amazing!

[yardwork]

10. Agree on all points!

[wnylib]

31. +1000

[treestar]

57. Exactly! VP Harris will be there, ready

That's the entire purpose of having a VP.

The POTUS has an understudy at the ready at all times. We know who it is and chose them, too.

[FalloutShelter]

67. PLUS 1000

[uponit7771]

94. +1

[wryter2000]

91. Amen, amen, amen.

[634-5789]

5. After Tubby McTraitor's term, you could run a shoehorn and I would vote for it.

tRump is a vile, lying, misogynistic, hate filled, pedo ass bag. Soon, you may be able to add 'rapist' to his long criminal list. How anyone who actually draws oxygen would vote for that jackass remains a top mystery for me and millions of others.

[BeerBarrelPolka]

6. .

Don't forget incestuous.

[TheCowsCameHome]

8. It troubles me.

I wish i didn't feel that way, but it does.

[Stinky The Clown]

9. What troubles you?

Asking honestly

[TheCowsCameHome]

24. The age factor

That holds true of any candidate, not just Joe.

I really believe a person loses his/her edge as they push toward the 70-75 and over mark.

Maybe I was spoiled by the vigor and exuberance that Barack Obama exhibited all through his time in office.

That said, I would never "not vote" and allow a monster like Trump to get elected again.

[wnylib]

35. The age doesn't bother me at all.

I've known some pretty sharp older people, both mentally and physically healthy, with the wisdom of age as well.

[True Blue American]

68. Should I tell my age?

My memory is great and so is my mind. As my pool class reminds me,” I am their inspiration.

Trump is younger than Biden. Guess which one I would gladly vote for? The guy who has dealt with a lot of grief, yet goes on accomplishing things, working across the aisle, or the fat windbag who goes between boasting and whining that he is a victim while committing all kinds of crimes?

[treestar]

58. Biden has more edge at 80

Than 90% of the US population has at 40, let alone TFG.

Harris has plenty of edge and is right there.

It's not comparison with themselves, but with the other candidates.

We got stuck with this by the TFG win and TFG loser not skulking off.

[True Blue American]

69. Not to mention the scare tactics media we have.

[GoCubsGo]

140. And, that includes a substantial portion of the people who

are criticizing him for his age. Biden would run rings around them, and in many cases, literally. He's in better shape than some 30-somethings that I know.

[electric_blue68]

156. While there are generalities - I think it's a very individual thing

Biden seems still very sharp & capable

[Cha]

197. You should read this article then..

Joe Biden Is Old. Get Over It. (David Rothkopf at the Daily Beast - great pro-Biden piece)

Joe Biden Is Old. Get Over It.
HE’S DOING THE JOB

https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-biden-is-old-get-over-it

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17860888

[progressoid]

127. +1

[Demsrule86]

171. He will be the candidate and will run against a guy who is two years younger...so age is not

a factor...it seems to me that most who object to Biden's age supported different candidates and want a rip-roaring primary which would surely cause us to lose the General. We have an incumbent's advantage and a president who has accomplished much. I am more than happy with Biden's candidacy.

[Polybius]

177. Maybe, maybe not

I'm not entire convinced that Trump gets the nomination.

[Demsrule86]

185. Well, if it is DeSantis, it would be even better...anyone else but Trump gets the nomination, it

will split the Republican party. DeSantis has disqualified himself to win a general. Biden is a sitting president and has announced he will run again...thus I support him period. I doubt there will be a primary unless you count anti-vaxer Kennedy and Marrianne whoever.

[Polybius]

220. Yeah, he would split their Party

They're probably doomed until Trump passes or goes to jail. Even in 2028, if he's out of jail by then he could run and split the Party (he'll be 82 in June 2028).

DeSantis vs. Newsom in 2028 would be epic.

[RAB910]

11. Per DU rules, I can't answer this question honestly

All I can say, in general, I have concerns about politicians over 80

[Stinky The Clown]

16. Now let's go to question two

Would you vote for his GQP opponent?

Would you vote third party?

Would you stay home?

Or would you vote for him?

[EYESORE 9001]

17. Fuck...

[fescuerescue]

20. I'm sure there is not a single Democrat in the nation

That would do any of those things.

[inthewind21]

98. Really

My how quickly we forget. TWENTY SIXTEEN! Ring a bell?

[Demsrule86]

179. It is my opinion that those that ruined the election and caused Hillary to lose were not

mostly Democrats...but third parties like the Greens and others. Even so, she almost won. And I hope those who left the Democratic party (the few) and all the Greens who rooted for Trump and didn't vote for Hillary- never have a peaceful day, as they watch women and others, suffer because of Trump and remember that they helped elect him.

[inthewind21]

183. I agree

It was those who VOTED for those third parties though who were responsible. Add I'm certain some were DEMS.

[RAB910]

21. I am a loyal Democrat so I am not one we need to worry about

however there are many voters who may answer these questions differently than I would

[Arazi]

28. We lost a lot of good DUers who questioned whether HRC was our best candidate

Of course I’ll vote for Biden because I truly believe he’s the best guy for the job at this moment.

But please don’t fall into the trap of denigrating Dems who have misgivings. It sucks

[Stinky The Clown]

32. No intent to denigrate anyone.

Go back to the OP. These are questions discussed by Eugene Robinson on Morning Joe. The intent is to discuss them here.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

39. Everyone knows the words that have to be said.

What sucks are those who attack the Democratic Party on an ostensibly pro-Democrat website.

[oldsoftie]

90. Why is anything thats not 100% positive seen as an attack?

Why is it SO hard to discuss valid concerns without getting alert swarmed? THIS group is supposed to be better than that. Do we want an echo chamber? Because thats a recipe for disaster.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

100. "Not 100% positive?" LOL

In theory THIS group is supposed to support Democrats.

I think there is extremely serious room for improvement on that front.

[progressoid]

124. Supporting Democrats INCLUDES criticism.

I'm not interested in a party (or website) that prefers blind fealty over criticism.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

125. Meh

[progressoid]

128. Good point.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

131. Better that coming up with rationalizations for the ongoing attacks on leading Democrats.

I think.

[Act_of_Reparation]

134. Is it though?

Because no, not really.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

135. Uh...hell yes.

[progressoid]

149. Rationalizations?

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

151. No, I understand the meaning of the word.

But go ahead with the personal insults.

[progressoid]

157. OK, I was an average student.

'Splain to me how "rationalizations for ongoing attacks" relates to criticism.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

158. I would prefer not to.

[Lancero]

162. Sadly, a lot of people here did that in regards to Dianne Feinstein.

Republicans decided to trial the attacks they were considering for Biden against her, so expect to see more of them in the future.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

163. Sad, but true.

I have been absolutely disgusted by the attacks on Sen. Feinstein here on DU.

[Demsrule86]

180. Not once the candidate is chosen...it merely depresses voting and convinces others to vote for

the enemy or some worthless third party that is also the enemy.

[oldsoftie]

230. Thank you. Why is that so hard to grasp?

[Demsrule86]

249. No it doesn't. It weakens our candidates. We could have won in 2000,2004 and 2016 but instead some

attacked our candidates. Loyalty matters.I hope all who did not vote for Hillary in the General never have a peaceful day again. Vote
Democratic and support Democrats always or we lose everything.

[inthewind21]

103. No

We want a solid force. One can have all the concerns one wants. But when it comes to unity and being a solid block, well, you see how all those "concerns" worked out in 2016.

[oldsoftie]

106. Nobody here voted for trump. But some Obama voters DID.

2020 was NOT 2016 though. But Biden only won by about 40-50k votes (electorally). There's no way it should've been that close. And if we dont pay attention to what the voters think, we're just taking big risks. But I'll leave it at that

[qzwv8j]

115. Truth

[Just A Box Of Rain]

126. We all know what really happened.

[oldsoftie]

129. This isnt one of those sites.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

132. I might emphatically disagree.

[progressoid]

187. Do tell.

As a new member, you must have a fresh insight into "what really happened."

Please enlighten us.

[oldsoftie]

231. I think you mean to respond to #126

[inthewind21]

142. No

Biden won 306 of the 538 electoral votes available. 270 are needed to win the Presidential election. Biden also won 81,283,501 of the 155,507,476 total votes cast. Which was 7,059,526 more votes than his opponent Trump.

But Biden only won by about 40-50k votes (electorally). " I have no idea what you are trying to say here.

[oldsoftie]

173. Oh come on; AZ, GA & WI were won with a total of less than 45k

The margin of victory in EACH STATE is all that matters.
He won Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin by a total of less than 45,000 votes. Lose those & we end up in the House.
Its as simple as that. If the other numbers mattered more, Trump would've LOST in '16

[inthewind21]

188. Come on where?

I'm well aware of how the electoral college works. And I never said the other numbers mattered more. Biden could have lost 2 of those states and STILL ended up with over 270. Stating it was "too close", well no such thing when the winner is determined by electoral count. A win is a win. Just ask Trump!

[Demsrule86]

170. If we run anyone but Biden, we will lose. There is no other candidate who can win rust-belt states.

We must win there. What you post is just simply wrong. Biden did not win by a 'little' and I have seen such numbers when I go to Freeper land to spy on the enemy to have a good laugh too. How about a link to where you got those numbers? However, I have a link for you which I am more than happy to share. The electoral college numbers are always close. But Biden like most Democrats won by millions of popular votes. But even the electoral college votes show a strong ca candidate who won convincingly.

'But just because of that blue shift — and the red shift that occurred in states where mail votes were counted first — that doesn’t mean the presidential race was all that close in the end. Joe Biden’s win was on the tighter side of the likely range of outcomes suggested by polls, but it was a thoroughly convincing one judged on its own merits...

So put aside your anxieties of the past few days and the premature media narratives that have been circulating since Tuesday night. Suppose, instead, that you’d been on one of those weekslong rafting trips in the Grand Canyon (sounds pleasant, doesn’t it?) and woke up to this map:'

Consider Biden beat Trump who attempted to use the power of the presidency to destroy Biden and the Democrats. He has an incumbents adantage and Biden cleaned his clock.

[oldsoftie]

174. Are you forgetting about how the Electoral College WORKS?

He won Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin by a total of less than 45,000 votes. There's your margin of victory. Of course a TIE at that time would go to the House. So its still far too close for comfort. Which is STILL hard for me to believe after everything trump did.
Turnout will again be the lynchpin.

[Demsrule86]

181. No one else would come that close. There is no other candidate who could win...very telling that

Sen. Sanders endorsed him at once. Look he is the candidate and we do support our candidates on this website.

[oldsoftie]

194. I picked Biden the 1st day we were given the choice here. Of course I back him.

I'm just pointing out that the last election was extremely close; which I am STILL shocked about. Its dangerous to see everyone talking about how badly trump was beaten in 2020 when its simply not accurate. This isnt going to be easy. Again. Even though it damn well SHOULD be a runaway.

[edisdead]

217. What are you hoping to accomplish here?

He is our candidate. And still you are throwing some shade on him…. But you back him…

[oldsoftie]

226. Why is it SO hard to follow?

I see so many posts about what a runaway victory 2020 was & its simply NOT TRUE. Another poster mentioned Biden's initial statement as he was running before about being "transitional". There are things I'd like to have seen done differently if he knew he intended to run again.
But you cant bring ups facts that people dont like around here without getting alerted on & its ridiculous.

[edisdead]

228. Got the links?

Electorally he did very well, popular vote wise he did amazing. Nobody here that I have seen has ever disputed that some of the states he won weren’t close. I believe every single person here remembers waiting for the returns in AZ etc….


So just what does gnashing our knuckles and grinding our teeth do to help gin up excitement?

[oldsoftie]

232. Links to what?

[edisdead]

235. To all the posts.

[oldsoftie]

237. My post is about the electoral college. I explained the numbers in the post

So what other posts am I supposed to show u

[edisdead]

240. The ones that you say are all over here.

[oldsoftie]

245. You obviously meant to respond to a different post.

If you'[re talking about people having concerns anyway. But you could read this thread & see them if you cared.
Here's a few for you; 8, 18, 11, 124

[Demsrule86]

182. It is not partially positive and it is a GOP talking point thus it is an attack and has no place

here IMHO. And when we have a candidate we need to be an echo chamber and not criticize our candidate which encourages others who may be lurking to vote for someone else...also depresses the vote... the end of the story.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

66. Who are these good DUers who enabled TFG?

They aren’t here so it’s not bashing…

[inthewind21]

104. yes who

Inquiring minds...

[edisdead]

218. Was wondering the same...

[mcar]

110. That is incorrect

We lost a lot of DUers in 2016 who left because they couldn't lie about and denigrate HRC - and call her the "c" word.

DU TOS states that we here support the Democratic nominee for President once the primaries are completed. That group of RT-loving so-called "progressives" did not adhere to that rule.

[electric_blue68]

159. I wasnt here yet in 2016... Some DU'rs called Hillary the c - word?! Really?!

That's ... disgusting! Dismaying!

I mean, yeah, I thought maaaaybe she could be more liberal in a few areas (and I may 1) be remembering wrong, or 2) didn't know her positions that well in a few areas).

But daaay-um ~ she's Smart, Very Experienced, Compassionate, Capable, and on the quite Liberal side on many things.
I certainly voted quite enthusiastically for her. Even tried to get to her HQ in Brooklyn to volunteer late bc I'd been out of the country (a very rare circumstance for me), wasn't going to volunteer over the summer (I usually start in Sept) and not available till early Oct.

[betsuni]

166. The c-word was hardly the worst. It was all about going after character, not policy, and

creating a viciously hated fictional character that disgusted people. The 2016 Democratic platform was the most progressive in history. Legislation is up to Congress. Don't have the votes, can't get it done. Hillary was demonized for no reason.

I remember a plaintive request on one of those sites that allowed the c-word for help combing through hacked emails because there must be evidence of Hillary's horrible immoral corruption crimes and racism and nefarious plots to destroy progress and kill everyone with warmongering. THERE MUST BE! I wonder how much time they wasted on their righteous quest.

Hillary: "Once people did start reading, I was amused by some of the reactions, as I am when people discover that I am, in fact, a real person. 'I was one of the most ardent Hillary haters on the planet ... until I read her emails,' one writer declared. 'I discovered a Hillary Clinton that I didn't even know existed,' she continued, 'a woman who cared about her employees who lost loved ones ... who, without exception, took time to write notes of condolence and notes of congratulations, no matter how busy she was ... who could be a tough negotiator and firm in her expectations, but still had a moment to write a friend with encouragement in tough times.'"

And yet this Hillary was in plain sight, for decades. A life-long do-gooder middle-class Midwestern Methodist, liberal activist who went to work for the Children's Defense Fund while in law school and spent her career fighting for the rights and health care of women and children, was most interested in making things happen, getting things done, remembers birthdays and always writes thank you notes. This was the big enemy of progress, the corrupt Establishment coastal elite beholden to Wall Street? IDIOTS.

[mcar]

169. It was pure, unadulterated misogyny

Those so-called progressives hated HRC with the same passion that those on the right hated her. They lied about her in the same way, said that TFG would be more liberal than HRC.

It still makes me angry.

[electric_blue68]

202. Oh! Tfg more liberal than HRC(?)....

Oh, brother! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄😑 🤬

[mcar]

204. Yep

Crazy, isn't it?

These are the "good DUers" who left/got kicked out.

[betsuni]

213. More liberal and less dangerous. Trump voters flocking to him because Hillary made all the jobs

go overseas, mean old corporate Dems ignored them like a middle child and gave all their stuff to immigrants who smell of spices and talk funny. Marsha, Marsha, Marsha! We had to hear about how Trump was Democrats' fault, "How Democrats Paved the Way to Trump" and endless repetition of the ignore ignore ignore elites thing. And still going! Biden better not "take for granted" and "fight for" blah blah blah.

Just once, someone should provide actual proof Democrats "ignore" anybody.

[DFW]

192. A few dozen of them hijacked the name of a deceased DUer and formed their own website

I took a look at it a couple of times.

It was as if Tucker Carlson, Vladimir Putin and Sean Hannity were writing the scripts, and then having them posted by people who actually believed what they were posting.

Veni, vidi, satis (I came, I saw, I had enough).

[electric_blue68]

203. Hooo, boy! 🙁 ....

I like your Latin. 👍

[DFW]

210. I've forgotten almost all of my high school Latin

But I still know THAT much!

[electric_blue68]

222. 👍 I know of the original phrase that it's riffing off on so it's funny

[DFW]

224. Yes, old Gaius Julius had a slightly different version

But he was talking about Gaul, and I was referring to a completely different website

[mcar]

205. I went there a few times too

most recently, a few months ago. It was barely functioning but the few posters were all about Putin good, Ukraine bad.

[DFW]

223. I hadn't looked in a long while

But what you saw doesn’t surprise me at all.

[betsuni]

219. They trusted people they should not have and emotion replaced thinking. Facts are useless.

Convinced they and only they are right, everybody else corrupt and immoral, evil. Populism is scary, whatever kind it is. The enemies lists are just different. I don't know how some people sleep at night, lying to people who believe what they say.

[DFW]

225. Emotion replaced thinking: exactly so.

Their irrational hatred of Hillary Clinton led them to believe anything and anyone who reinforced their bad image of her. It became their obsession.

[Cha]

196. Yes,

[betsuni]

168. +1

[Demsrule86]

175. No one is denigrating Democrats. And I expect all who are here in good faith will vote for

Joe Biden will be our candidate. However, I despise those who didn't vote for Hillary and saddled us with Trump. Now I am sure there were trolls who pretended to be left and those who hate the Democratic Party involved. The Greens are always willing to help the GOP win and take money from them as well. I will despise Jill Stein until the day I die.

In Ohio, we sent Nina Turner packing for her betrayal. By the way, she is no longer a Democrat and continues to bash us via the People's Party. She was fairly popular before this in Ohio. IMHO, if you are a Democrat and part of the 'base', you vote for the Democrat in all cases...no exceptions. Those who have 'misgivings' need to rally behind the Democratic candidate-same as anyone.

[betsuni]

178. +1

[oldsoftie]

82. Independents Win elections.

I dont know any Democrat who'd stay home. And certainly none who'd vote for trump
But we need the "average" voter, not the DU voter. And there are things that should be addressed.

[uponit7771]

95. +1, MAGA is underwater to the average voter though

[TwilightZone]

99. Not really.

Almost all independents lean one way or the other already. There are very few true independents.

Turnout wins elections.

[inthewind21]

116. Well..

None need vote FOR Trump. Third party votes and sit this one out protests will do the trick just about every time. And we all know, or SHOULD know, 3rd party candidates are nothing but spoilers and WILL NOT BE ELECTED! And an overpopulated running field where candidates of the same party tear each other down for over a year will bite you in the ass every time. As well will over a year of DEMS wringing their hands and clutching their pearls because the sitting POTUS is just too old. Nothing like unnecessarily snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!

All this pearl clutching over Biden's age is reminiscent of all the pearl clutching over HRC. Or the ABSOLUTE insistence on Sanders (funny, age was clearly not an issue then). How'd all that "addressing" work out? Until ALL voters come to the realization that when electing a President, the decision comes down to the answer of one single question. (And a basic knowledge of civics helps! ) Which candidate will do the least harm? Answer that and vote accordingly.

You can not like the system, not like the electoral college, not like the age of the candidate, not like there are only 2 viable parties and not agree with EVERYTHING or maybe nothing the nominated candidate does or does not campaign on. The FACT remains, there is one, only ONE question to answer when the primaries are over and the candidates selected. Not, who will do everything they campaigned on? Not, who makes ME feel all warm and fuzzy? Not, but what about this or what about that? But, WHICH IS LIKELY TO DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD?

That's it, it's just that simple. Too many failed to see the big picture in 2016. Think how different the U.S. would look today if the voting population THEN had a clear understanding of just what was at stake and what was almost a certainty to happen if Trump got elected. Surprise, it's all here! No surprise at all to many.

I have voted more than once for the candidate that WAS NOT my preferred candidate. But, the answer to the question was clear. Judging by all the shock and panic now over the SC, the federal court, state houses etc., Trump this and Trump that, it's crystal clear too many did not.

[oldsoftie]

117. And I know several who skipped the Pres ballot line in '20 because of it.

People sent me private messages (without me asking ) telling me "I just cant vote for trump again. I was so wrong about him" or some other similar statement. THOSE are the people that beat trump; '16 voters that he couldn't keep.
Did covid deaths knock a bigger hole in his "base" for next year? Who knows. If so, it could make it harder for him.

[inthewind21]

122. With all due respect

The several that sent you messages, are not even a blip on the radar in the scheme of things in a country with 331 million people. Our own small worlds ARE NOT a clear indication of the country as a whole. My mother-in law got several messages as well in 2012 that EVERYONE she knew was voting for Obama, hence Obama WOULD win N. Carolina. Recall Obama lost N Carolina in 2012. So yes, people sending me private messages stating XXX is not convincing. In fact, if the numbers are even remotely what is being reported, they are not even close.

[oldsoftie]

242. You dont know how many people have similar stories.

Undervotes killed trump in '20. The numbers show it. Were these people I'm talking about the be-all/end-all? Probably not. But it was definitely a major factor. Here in GA, undervotes beat trump. In Wisconsin, undervotes killed trump. Not sure about AZ, I dont know anyone there.

[Demsrule86]

184. If they PM'd you are talking about DUer's? I hope not.

[oldsoftie]

241. Oh, no! Friends who were scared to openly admit he'd turned them off.

Facebook, Twitter, IG, etc. Because they'd probably lose family if they did. So they'd post generic stuff compared to '16, when they were all in. And I know several people in many states who told me similar stories. I just talked to two people TODAY who told me if he's the pick, they're not voting. I see no reason to NOT believe them because I'm never the one who brings it up. And it was the "undervotes" that killed trump. Ron Johnson even explained it when he didnt know he was being recorded. Raffensberger did the same in GA; pointing out that the Senate candidates got thousands more votes than trump. He did it again on MSNBC the other day.

But I never got a single message from someone who voted for HRC telling me they were going for trump over Biden.

[betsuni]

119. +1

[doc03]

19. Same here. nt

[Torchlight]

30. I'd hzard I have theose seem concerns abiut politicians under 30

In general, of course.

[treestar]

62. If anything happens, VP Harris, age 58

is there to take the job.

LOL it's not like McCain winning and Palin being the VP.

[pinkstarburst]

141. The problem is that voters very likely

are playing out the exact scenario you describe when they consider voting for Biden due to his age, picturing Harris taking over. He will be 86 at the end of his term, 3 years younger than Feinstein at 89, who is currently unable to do her job.

And that means that any voter who would vote for Harris outright in the general at the top of the ticket, is probably going to be okay with a Biden-Harris ticket. Any voter who would not vote for Harris at the top of the ticket in the general, may have a problem voting for Biden this time around.

Just look at how many people refused to vote for Hillary in 2016 due to sexism (the most qualified candidate ever to run) and then add racism on top of that, and tell me we don't have a serious problem.

[treestar]

154. they voted in 2020 for her to be there to be President

in case anything happened to a 78 year old.

[inthewind21]

189. So

Let me get this straight, because some don't want to vote for a woman (and oh my a black/asian woman at that!) at the top of the ticket we should concede that and oust a SITTING VP? Or, just ditch them both and get a couple younger white male candidates! Do I have that right?

"Just look at how many people refused to vote for Hillary in 2016 due to sexism (the most qualified candidate ever to run) and then add racism on top of that, and tell me we don't have a serious problem."

You mean that MAJORITY that voted FOR Hillary? Oh but only if we elected by popular vote! So, you tell me, how many more concessions should we offer up to the racist, anti woman crowd to deal with this "serious problem"? And tell me how well that's worked out so far?

[pinkstarburst]

193. I don't know what the solution is

I am voting Biden/Harris. I'm merely saying that we can't bury our heads in the sand and browbeat anyone who claims to have a problem with an 86 year old president or pretend some independent voters won't have issues with the ticket.

If we run against Trump, I think it's less of an issue. He's so awful it's just a non-starter.

The problem comes if they run anyone except Trump. If we are up against a younger candidate like DeSantis, Mike Pence or Jeb Bush, then the race will be very tight, just like it was last time, but with independent voters asking if they want an 86 year old president. We cannot simply say "oh it's fine if something happens to Biden because there's always Kamala Harris." That argument works fine for democrats. We're going to vote for our ticket no matter what. The problem is independents who will only embrace that argument if they would vote for her at the top of the ticket outright. Again, Hillary lost in 2016 due to sexism. Forget the popular vote. That's not how elections work. And yes, Harris has to overcome racism too.

I am very nervous about this race.

[oldsoftie]

244. You get it.

When a great poll comes out, its posted here, but if ones out there showing someone isnt very popular, God forbid you post that one. And you cant get into any other details or you get a hide. People here dont understand that we are NOT "regular voters". DUers pay attention to stuff EVERY DAY. "Regular voters" aren't even thinking about the election yet. So NEXT summer will be far more important than this one. But a lot of people want to act like '20 was a landslide & it wasnt.As you said, "forget the popular vote". I expected Biden to destroy Trump. But I expected Hillary to win a close race in '16 when many didnt think Trump was really as crazy as he appeared. So while everyone thinks trump is the easiest to beat in '24, I'm not willing to buy that.

[oldsoftie]

80. Thank you for framing that as you did. We just cant express any reservations.

SHOULD be allowed but isnt.

[Demsrule86]

172. That is answering the question...well I believe you are wrong.

[Cha]

198. Please Read This Article then..

Joe Biden Is Old. Get Over It. (David Rothkopf at the Daily Beast - great pro-Biden piece)

Joe Biden Is Old. Get Over It.
HE’S DOING THE JOB

https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-biden-is-old-get-over-it

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17860888

[RAB910]

227. That's quite the campaign pitch- "Joe Biden is old get over it"

Do you think it's a winner

[Cha]

238. I say Please Read ON.. "he's Doing

his Job!" and all his Accomplishments.

There's no denying his AGE, RAB or anyone's age. It's their mental acuity that's important.

[Torchlight]

229. I get it. I too have concerns ability ability politicians under 30

[2naSalit]

12. I wonder...

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Who could even compare under the current conditions?

He's got my vote, without question.

[Cha]

199. Yeah, those all worried about age..

don't seem to be taking that into Consideration.

TY

[CentralMass]

13. I good with him running again.

[Emile]

14. I really like Joe and will happily vote for him again. I wish

he would lighten up and legalize cannabis though.

[Walleye]

25. There is hope on that front, Delaware just legalized after years of punting the issue

[Emile]

26. +1 good news indeed.

[NoMoreRepugs]

15. I have zero problem with JBiden running again WITH

KHarris, an incredible TEAM IMO.

[AntivaxHunters]

18. I have major issues with him

And that's all I'm saying because I don't want to get in trouble.

[Walleye]

27. That's good, keep it to yourself, I think we've heard all about it

I like what Joe has to say, he knows how fucking old is

[Demsrule86]

186. Really? How not surprising. Well he will be the candidate so perhaps you should consider that.

[BannonsLiver]

243. Good call.

Most people don’t care anyway.

[dmr]

23. I am 100% supportive of President Biden.

I don't want anyone else, just this good natured, intelligent and honest man.

There are so many other wonderful words to describe this man.

[Demsrule86]

33. I love Biden...and will happily vote for him. We are lucky to have him.

[True Blue American]

70. I hope Biden gets the chance

To pick Obama for the USSC!

[jcgoldie]

34. Buddy Sage!

It's no buttery males but ...

[Stinky The Clown]

36. huh?

[MrsCoffee]

46. But he sage..... (wise).

[Scrivener7]

155. "but his age" "buddy sage"

[hay rick]

37. Our horse-race-loving, oligarchy-complicit media loves this discussion.

Democrats who wish they had a younger viable option are represented as not supporting Biden. The media is building a framework for 2024 which allows them to suggest that reasonable people have good reasons to consider voting for Jeffrey Dahmer or whoever is the Republican nominee.

[True Blue American]

71. Amen!

[doc03]

38. Age is a factor but inflation and the economy will decide the election. At this time inflation

is the number one complaint I hear from both sides. The only thing that will break the inflation
cycle is recession, either way 2024 doesn't look good.

[Phoenix61]

53. Abortion will decide this election.

There are a huge number of very, very pissed off women. They showed up in Kansas. They’ll show up for Biden.

[bronxiteforever]

65. +1 The Supreme Ct baked abortion into every election

for many state and federal offices. It will be a huge factor as the national ban on abortions won’t ever die in the GOP. The GOP is not trustworthy when they say they won’t go for a ban just like the Trump Justices ,under oath, told the Senate Committee that Roe was established law.

Inflation will be a major factor as well in 2024 but the confidence the GOP has to invade personal liberty is downright scary. The abortion issue goes hand in hand with banning books, erasing the civil rights movement from history etc.

[wryter2000]

101. There are plenty of pissed off men, too.

They have wives and sisters and daughters who are in danger because of Dobbs. I'd like to know how many of those anti-abortion politicians have gotten abortions for their lovers.

[Phoenix61]

105. Excellent point! nt

[inthewind21]

120. So,

How will the issue of abortion be reversed?

[Phoenix61]

164. Get the house back, keep the senate and Biden signs

national legislation making it legal.

[inthewind21]

190. And

when that gets challenged and taken to the Supreme Court? And it will. Who remember, just said it's for the STATES to decide. What then?

[Phoenix61]

207. The legislation will have a much stronger legal basis than

what backed ROE v Wade. Ginsburg’s opinion was it left the law open to legal challenges and she was right.

[electric_blue68]

160. This! And the Men Who Support Them.

[oldsoftie]

102. This time IS a bit different. Very low UE. Inflation IS coming down slowly.

But in a way thats the BEST way for it to come down. I hope the Fed pauses on increases. I think we WILL be in better shape by 11/24, and if UKR is making good progress against the Russians or that war has stopped, that'll be a HUGE positive.

[AllaN01Bear]

41. hear , hear.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

43. I could not be more enthusiastic about having Joe Biden run for re-election.

[AkFemDem]

45. LOL am I actually supposed to answer this honestly

On Democratic Underground? 😂🤣😅

I’ll vote for the democrat. 🤷🏻‍♀️ You’ll just have to accept that as good enough.

[Stinky The Clown]

47. :snort:

Why are you attacking me?

[treestar]

78. well you did

lol

I can't imagine who would be a better candidate. Any in mind? Upthread we have Schiff and Swalwell.

[jaxexpat]

49. The Republicans cannot and will not run a suitable candidate because they have none,

nor are they likely to find one whom donors could tolerate enough to adequately support. Any candidate associated with the Republican party over the last 25 years is unqualified by default. Republican candidates are perhaps even unelectable by default as well since the public at large is growing weary of their pointless contrarianism. People want to preserve a women's right to choose, so they ban choice. People love Social Security, so they try to cut it. People want a stable economy, so they play games with the debt ceiling. People love the "grit" of the Ukranian people, so they side with Russia.

As I see it, the bigger question is: How many will lazily vote third party out of uninformed disgust with the 2-party system? Big 3rd party turnout could accidentally put a minority chosen candidate in office again in 2024 and so far, this seems to be a millennium fraught with that tendency.

[inthewind21]

121. Well

whoever gets elected POTUS, can fix NONE of those things you mentioned. He/she will need super majorities in the House and Senate in order to get anything passed to un-do the damage. And then there's still the problem of the Federal courts and the Supreme court. The issues at hand are not easily undone. Simply electing a DEM POTUS will NOT do the trick. There will need to be a wave change in the House, The Senate, Several State Houses as well as holding the White House. And even then, there's the matter of the Federal Courts, especially the Supreme Court.

[riversedge]

50. Biden saying he is running again brings a sence of calmness and stability that the USA needs

right now. IMHO. Glad he made the announcement.

[Sympthsical]

55. I think it doesn't matter what anyone thinks

There's no real point in discussing it. He's running. There's no primary. Trump and DeSantis are nonstarters.

That's that. Democrats don't really have any real, meaningful choice in it. I'll vote for him and not give it very much thought.

Do I have concerns? Absolutely. This whole situation is a choice. Does it matter? Newp. And if it proves to be a poor choice - much as 2016 did - welp, not my problem really. I didn't do it.

Hey, at least this is easy. I don't have to think about the election at all. Just tick my Democratic box 18 months from now.

We'll see how it goes. If it proves to be a good choice, great. If it proves to be a poor one, it doesn't matter - people will never acknowledge that anyway. I've learned that one over the past seven years.

I think I'm more curious about who's running in 2028 at this point. But, there will be time enough for that much later.

[Talitha]

56. I'm glad Joe's running again - look at everything he's accomplished!

So yeah, let's finish the job!

And this time around, we'll be able to party hearty instead of being in isolation.

[DownriverDem]

59. Look at what he's done

I am for Joe all the way. If you are too throw some money to his campaign no matter the amount. www.actblue.com
The change some of you want will happen in 2028.

[bronxiteforever]

60. 2024 gives the GOP a great Senate map

Add a GOP potus and the Supreme Court will remain a powerful, permanent GOP dominated branch of government for the foreseeable future.
How strong is GOP resolve on Russia? Not very strong at all. The GOP will court autocrats and denigrate NATO.
Biden needs to win reelection. I am on team Biden.

[dlk]

61. Biden has delivered in enormous ways

Realistically, who could deliver more? That’s what counts.

[Happy Hoosier]

64. Mixed Feelings.

Joe has never been my number one guy.

He's smart. An excellent technocrat.

But his political instincts are sometimes a bit too timid for my tastes.

And, of course, he frequently suffers from "Foot in mouth" disease.

BUT....

I think he has done an excellent job overall.

I haven't loved every decision he's made, and more than once I don't think he's framed decisions properly.

But the country is much better off after 2+ years of his leadership. We need Joe.

But the party really needs to be cultivating the next generation too.

I personally love Kamala, and she was my first choice last primary season. I still think she'd make a great President. But she has ZERO chance of getting elected to that position, IMO.

Not sure who I see stepping up. Gavin Newsom? Pete? Not sure who else is on the horizon. But that's a problem for 2028.

[Cha]

200. No he doesn't "Stutter from foot &

mouth disease".. That's insulting and so M$$$$M.

I'm surprised at you.

[Happy Hoosier]

208. I didn't say stutter.

I would never say that.

He occasioanlly makes verbal gaffes. Does it bother me? Not really. But the media sure loves to harp on it. As perusual, there is a massive double standard at play when it comes to how they treat Democrats.

[Cha]

211. Sorry, my eyes are bad &

I read it wrong. It really didn't seem like you. I sincerely apologize.

Still.. you can't listen to the M$$$m.. They wanted a Red Wave.. Didn't get it.

We Win In Spite of the US MEDIA .. or Not.. think what they did to Gore, Hillary, and tried to do to Pres Obama.

And, they built up trump.. look where that got us. The media is the Enemy of our State. They're into RATINGS NOT Real News.

Look at his Record about what he's Accomplished and how well he did at the SOTU! Pres Biden has so many positive Accomplishments.

Joe Biden Is Old. Get Over It. (David Rothkopf at the Daily Beast - great pro-Biden piece)

Joe Biden Is Old. Get Over It.
HE’S DOING THE JOB

https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-biden-is-old-get-over-it

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17860888

[Happy Hoosier]

214. Thanks. I basically agree.

I've generally been pleased with Joe, and I will enthusiastically support his re-election.

[Cha]

215. Thank You!

[mcar]

206. He is the most successful, most liberal president of the last half century

with a 50-50 senate and bare majority in the house (pre Jan 2023).

He accomplished what no one thought he could.

Tell me, how is that timid? And, who TF cares if he doesn't always say things perfectly? Like Trump did?

[Happy Hoosier]

209. IMO, he sometimes pulls his punches.

Like right now, he should be all over how the Republicans are playing with peoples' social security. I mean, she should be beating that drum HARD every day.

He is doing a great job. The opposition is INSANE. He needs to be louder about it.

[Wingus Dingus]

72. One bad health event away from being fucked.

Yay.

[DemocraticPatriot]

152. Isn't everyone ?

[Cha]

201. That's ridiculous. Pres Joe Biden has

had a very Successful 1st Term and is Ready to Go Again.

Thank Goodness! ;dem:

[BannonsLiver]

236. I have some bad news

So are you and everyone else here. Or did you think you were special in that regard?

[ripcord]

73. Lets face it, we aren't really allowed to answer this question but one way on this site

[TwilightZone]

87. It's been answered several different ways in this thread.

And all of those responses are still here.

There's nothing wrong with constructive criticism. The issue is when the criticism is just bashing or nonsense. This place was loaded with the latter in the prior cycle.

"Poor me, I can't say what I want" has never been a terribly compelling assertion.

[sagetea]

74. I look at it like this...

You want wisdom to lead, and youth to fight. Biden is leading this country superbly, his administration is diverse and younger. He's doing it right. I will stay with him as long as he needs me to. I will fight for the future of our country alongside him.


sage

[betsuni]

118. "his administration is diverse and younger" needs to be mentioned more. Are people forgetting this?

How is this not preparing the next generation to lead? Like all the drama about Pelosi being too old and supposedly not having a successor. What a waste of time, all the negativity.

[Initech]

75. I want whoever will have the best chance of beating the MAGA Taliban Q fascists!

[karin_sj]

76. I'm happy Biden is running

It's infuriating. In my opinion, he's done a wonderful job so far. I think when it's all said and done, he will be known as one of our greatest presidents. He's accomplished so much, even with two Senate "Democrats" (one of whom is now an Independent) thwarting him at every turn and now a nutty, toxic House majority that will do anything to prevent him from being successful in helping the American people.

I'm so sick of the media's drumbeat that most Democrats don't want him to run. That's not how I feel and everyone in my circle of friends and family agrees.

[apcalc]

77. If he gets the nomination, I'll vote for him.

[mcar]

112. If he gets the nomination?

Who else would?

[apcalc]

130. Fair question....we shall see. Candidates declare, people have to vote in primaries etc

[mcar]

136. No legitimate Democrat is going to primary the sitting president of their party

[nowforever]

79. Gee

Who would i rather have, an intelligent, compassionate and wise grandfather making decisions or an arrogant, narcissistic and cruel imbecile as my leader...not a tough choice.

[JustAnotherGen]

81. He's set us on the right course

IDGAF about his age.

The choice is between America and a Fascist Shadow of itself.

Vote Bidrn/Harris 2024.

[djacq]

84. Wisdom and Experience

Never had a problem with Joe's age.

I would be proud to vote for President Biden once again.

[wryter2000]

86. He's been a great president

Especially when you consider what he inherited from TFG and the narrow majority in Congress. Look at what he's been up against and what he's accomplished. I don't want anyone else.

[highplainsdem]

88. Exactly the same way I felt about him when I supported him in the

Primaries forum a few years ago.

[randr]

89. Name one prominent Democrat who could run

and why they would be better?

[mwooldri]

92. The thing is... Biden is the incumbent US president.

If he had done a horrible job then yeah I'd want him primaried. However given what he has to work with in Congress, he achieved quite a bit. Pretty darned good if you ask me.

For that he deserves a go at another four years.

Would I like to see another option other than Biden? Well.... yes... But I don't know who. And I'll save it for 2028 when Biden is term limited and we can in-flight then and pretend to be "Democrats in Disarray"™ ...

[StClone]

93. I'll dance with the one who brought me to the party.

[TwilightZone]

97. He's done fine and he's the incumbent.

It's really a no-brainer. I don't see why anyone would think that we should throw away the inherent incumbent edge and Biden's experience for someone thus far unproven.

In 2020, nearly everyone got behind Biden as soon as he was the frontrunner, and that was a key to his victory in the general. The same needs to happen in 2024.

Besides, naysayers gonna naysay. I mostly just ignore them.

[H2O Man]

107. Recommended.

I think that if the republicans nominate Trump -- which appears likely -- President Biden is our best bet. That doesn't mean it will be an exciting election contest. Nor does it mean that everyone who votes for Biden will be "happy" with the options. But the record of this administration is pretty solid, and people will vote to continue having the country move in this direction.

[mcar]

109. Biden/Harris '24!

They have done great things for this country.

[andym]

111. Biden has done a great job. Aging occurs at different rates for people and should not be an issue

Some people slow down in their 60's, others not until their late 80's.
Biden seems as energetic, engaged and with it as a man half his age.

[ismnotwasm]

113. Biden is amazing

And I say this as someone who was less than enthusiastic about him. He’s a great president. I trust him to know his own body and his own health

[betsuni]

133. "No one fucks with a Biden."

But his age. That's it? That's not frightening anyone away from voting for him.

[Torchlight]

138. Every rational person I've asked "what then should be the absolute age limit?

results in the same response every time:
"I dunno, he's just too old!"
What leads you to assert that?"
"He stumbled over a word over yesterday!"
"You've dome that same hing three times in the pas two minutes.
"F*** you! I ain't no feeb!!!
Cool. Sounds serious. Good luck!"

She immediately stomped over to HR asserting I was creating a sexually-hostile workplace. TX is a one -party concerning and our company has no policies about phone use or non-explicit photographs. Didn't work out too well for her, but at least she still has her job.

[NowISeetheLight]

139. I Trust

I have no doubt age has diminished a bit of “response time” with Biden. It does with everyone as they get older. But the comprehension and common sense is 100% good. I trust Biden’s reasoning and intelligence. He is no where near what Reagan was in later years. Compared to the serial narcissist and liar Trump, who is a DUMB FXXK anyway, there is no comparison.

[Skittles]

146. I would vote for a ham sandwich over a repuke

ya know?

[BlueCheeseAgain]

147. I am completely fine with President Biden running again.

Of course I wish he was about 25 years younger (and I'll bet he does too), but we can't have everything.

[Martin Eden]

148. I want our Democratic nominee for President to be the person who

Has the best chance to win this election
And
Helps with downticket races
And
Strengthens the Democratic Party to win in 2026, 2028
And Beyond

Is it allowed to discuss potential candidates other than Joe Biden?

I do have concerns about his age, but

I cannot name a viable alternative.

[LiberalFighter]

150. Who should voters consider? Someone with experience or doesn't have a clue?

[DemocraticPatriot]

153. I'M WITH JOE ALL THE WAY!!!!

[LudwigPastorius]

161. Joe is our best candidate, period.

However, he's got work to do to convince uncommitted voters that his age is not a concern.

Obviously, this becomes less of a factor if he faces off against Trump.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

167. I dream of a Biden Presidency with a Senate majority made up of

enough real Democrats, and Independents like Bernie, who will support his agenda, and a Dem majority in the House made up of real Democrats.

Joe will go down as the best Prez in history if this happens.

[Hortensis]

191. I'm grateful we have him. Nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

195. Yes! Trump much easier to beat than desantis.

[LOLarkey]

212. Ridin' with Biden

All the way. Biden for better lives. Gen Z is with him

[edisdead]

216. For anyone that listens to stephanie miller

For anyone that listens to stephanie miller dod they hear the Coffee with Carlos segment this morning when he was parroting that bullshit?

I was super pissed. Thankfully a caller chimed in and called him on his bullshit.

He kept saying “Why can’t someone you ger just take his playbook and do the same things?”

Like what the fuck? Seriously? As if Biden’s experience had nothing to do with anything he has achieved. I am so tired of having to fight amongst ourselves. Quite possibly the existence of our democracy is on the line and poeple like him want to get ageist on it. Unreal.

[roamer65]

221. I have no worries.

If something happens to President Biden, we are in good hands with VP Harris as president.

[Deep State Witch]

233. I have two words for those who think that Biden is "Too Old"

William Shatner.

Shatner has a good 10 years on Joe, and is still active. The dude goes to conventions almost every weekend, runs a horse farm, collaborates with various musical artists, and even went into space! I saw him in February. He may be losing a step or two, but he's still sharp as a tack!

https://deadline.com/2023/03/sxsw-william-shatner-interview-documentary-you-can-call-me-bill-news-1235284842/

[XanaDUer2]

234. I'm riding with Biden nt

[Tree Lady]

239. I just want to know who Joe picked to cover

social media and the youth vote.

I am taking a class about focus and social media and what it is doing to our minds and society. Has me thinking a lot these days about how unregulated FB and Twitter and others are destroying the truth.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

246. They want to make this race about fitness for office? Game on.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[JustAnotherGen]

251. We have 11M job openings

I suspect its due to employers not understanding that people won't work on the cheap.

CHIPS Act

We've regained our standing globally with those that matter

Justice Jackson

A person who will block any efforts to cut Veteran's benefits, Social Security, Medicare, SNAP, TANF, Medicaid . . .

What's the problem with Biden? I'm A 50 year old black woman who never in my life imagined I'd live through an LBJ type of Commander in Chief. I'm thrilled.

4 more years and then the KHive rides again.