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The Atlantic
The moment the dressing-room door is closed, he lunges at me, pushes me against the wall, hitting my head quite badly, and puts his mouth against my lips.
He seizes both my arms and pushes me up against the wall a second time, and, as I become aware of how large he is, he holds me against the wall with his shoulder and jams his hand under my coat dress and pulls down my tights.
She struggled against him, she alleges, as he raped her.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2023/04/trump-e-jean-carroll-rape-trial/673840/
An excerpt from the article.
Walleye
(31,045 posts)The level of detail described, and we already know he does this kind of thing and brags about it. She also describes how she felt and how she struggles sounds like a gods honest truth to me. And what is his answer to this detailed account of rape, shes not my type. Disgusting rapist and liar
And by the way: what is the type he likes to rape?
Walleye
(31,045 posts)Beachnutt
(7,340 posts)PCIntern
(25,582 posts)POS.
walkingman
(7,660 posts)CrispyQ
(36,509 posts)Actually, nothing on Earth deserves to be compared to him. Trump is a piece of human filth, an actual walking piece of shit.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Scrivener7
(51,004 posts)Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)There's going to be questions from his defense that will be somewhat hard to answer, such as "why did you not report it to the police?", "the dressing rooms at the store are segregated M/F, correct? So why were you in the same dressing room in the first place?", and "why did you not scream, given you were in a public place, a very upscale one, where a scream would surely bring attention?"
I think her best shot is if he categorically denies the 'encounter', and then she produces his DNA. That way he's branded as a liar (unless he has some other explanation for how she got it).
Guessing when the rubber meets the road he's going to admit to having been there, but that it didn't actually go down like she describes.
Then you're basically down to he said/she said. Can be tough to win those kinds of cases. Sadly in this instance, of course.
Scrivener7
(51,004 posts)Which makes her astonishingly courageous. She's not doing it for the win. She's doing it to say her piece.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)However I'm also worried that if she isn't victorious, it's just going to fuel the MAGAt's fervor even more. It'll increase his 'invincible' aura, burnish his 'fighter' credentials, and most importantly further prove in the knuckle-dragger's minds that he's being targeted and falsely accused by liberals.
And it'll also lend credence to the idea (for the assholes that want to use it) that 'women DO lie about rape'. People so inclined will spin the fact that 'she lost' to mean 'she lied', for sure
So I really, really hope she wins, both for justice for her, and also because it's really not going to be good thing if she does not, in the societal sense.
Scrivener7
(51,004 posts)those things since the beginning of time, and a win or loss here will not change that. Good for her for not letting that stop her. Maybe it will encourage others not to let it stop them.
On this subject, society can go fuck itself as far as I am concerned. She is the only thing I care about in this.
Irish_Dem
(47,382 posts)He knew exactly how to commit the crime.
kimbutgar
(21,188 posts)Johonny
(20,888 posts)Of him admitting to this activity will be used in the trial.
It is unknown if other women have come forward that are willing to testify.