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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTed Cruz is in big trouble - new audio
caught outlining plot before Jan 6
Time to lock up this treasonous scumbag.
Turn on Ari.
See #2
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217859586
deminks
(11,526 posts)malaise
(296,118 posts)Got the scumbag.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,518 posts)Ocelot II
(130,538 posts)But nothing is likely to happen to him because everybody already knows he's a dick.
malaise
(296,118 posts)Why did Fucker fuck with Abby!
Cha
(319,079 posts)for Inciting Violence.. plotting to Overthrow a Fair Election.
There's Audio Tapes!
Hope we get to hear what's on them.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)can only mean there isnt a viable third option
how else to make ultra profitable election campaign horse races??
America could use a third party like Canada NDP, more liberal than the Liberals, and with no cray and coddled RW extremists anywhere
corporate media would then have to support the more conservative Democratic Party
no other option! Win win!
lindysalsagal
(22,915 posts)And the water's gushing. Shoes dropping, no, monsooning.
malaise
(296,118 posts)All the tapes are spewing evidence
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FalloutShelter
(14,466 posts)LoisB
(13,028 posts)malaise
(296,118 posts)liberalla
(11,089 posts)That song makes me start moving and dancing... I can't fight it and wouldn't even want to try!
malaise
(296,118 posts)😀😀
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stage left
(3,306 posts)I think all decent people who are paying attention are...and have been for a long, long time.
FalloutShelter
(14,466 posts)uponit7771
(93,532 posts)madinmaryland
(65,729 posts)DET
(2,499 posts)In a sane world, I would think that Ted Cruz would at least be taken in and questioned immediately. I always figured he was guilty, but Cruz is almost as slick as Trump. Maybe one day before he dies, Ted will be convicted - of something.
Kid Berwyn
(24,395 posts)Trumps friends in Congreff, Republican Party are mostly Traitors.
malaise
(296,118 posts)to pick up the pieces and it will be pieces by the time the dust settles.
Kid Berwyn
(24,395 posts)Long Live Team Trickledown, Royal Oil, and their war poodle, MIC.
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Blue Owl
(59,107 posts)
Hassler
(4,924 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Wanting a Court to overturn an election result is unethical but not criminal.
And FWIW, it won't have any impact on his re-election.
tanyev
(49,297 posts)kentuck
(115,407 posts)Which would indicate he was in on the plan.
And the plan was to overturn the election.
It seems there was a "Commission" in the works if they had succeeded in sending the votes back to the states?
malaise
(296,118 posts)And that is his problem
Puppyjive
(987 posts)Tells me Lindsay Graham is involved.
Rhiannon12866
(255,539 posts)Hear Ted Cruz caught on tape plotting 'step two' of Jan. 6 Coup - The Beat - MSNBC
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017823432
In an MSNBC exclusive, MSNBC Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber reports on new tape recordings of Sen. Ted Cruz and Fox's Maria Bartiromo. Cruz is caught pushing a fake commission to steal the 2020 election and outlining his plot just four days prior to January 6th, 2021.
Melber breaks down the damaging "Cruz tapes" and how Cruz went from a Trump foe to a planner of 2020 plot for Trump.
dflprincess
(29,343 posts)I first heard about it on DU but, so far, I haven't heard any more about it on MSNBC.
Rhiannon12866
(255,539 posts)msfiddlestix
(8,178 posts)the audio posted to be legally implicated and charged. I feel like the content of the audio is not even close to anything illegal.
but I'm not a lawyer, I'm probably wrong. But I wouldn't hang my hat on this thing.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)LudwigPastorius
(14,725 posts)the statements he made in these tapes don't seem to implicate him.
I think a lot of people are hearing what they want to hear. Wish I were wrong.
I'm glad that Prosecutor Smith is following this line of inquiry, though.
msfiddlestix
(8,178 posts)more directly. I feel like we knew he was involved just as LG and other Senators, House Reps etc involved in supporting it, but having a direct hand and involvement in the plotting and commission of the coup, I think would require more than floating and promoting a plan. Personally, I suspect that happened in part at the hotel (i'm forgetting the name of it now) where the Proud Boys and Lindsey Graham and others were captured in snapshots literally arm in arm posing for the photo. they called it the War Room.
We knew they were involved. but we didn't and still don't have the means to provide the hard evidence that would have to come from recordings, documents, statements etc.
Ted Cruz's statements on the recordings heard on Ari's show indicated support while floating and promoting a rough plan of action. But wouldn't his lawyer say he was just theorizing what could be done and how it could be done is protected by free speech but that isn't evidence of actually doing it.
I don't know for sure, cuz I'm not a lawyer so I'm not qualified to determine what is and is not solid evidence.
Personally, my faith in justice in our country would be greatly restored if Cruz' conversation would at least be considered a co-conspirator., and frog march him the entire cadre of coup supporters in the house, the senate, and other positions of state and federal offices right up to maximum prisons.
wiggs
(8,812 posts)don't hear more about the two war rooms and who was in them. Suggests that the participants might be either targets or witnesses for the SC and/or DOJ, calling off the Jan 6 committee from pursuing. They should be very worried.
IIRC bot much mention of the Willard in the Jan 6 trials of Oath Keepers and Proud Boys (I've been following every day) which seems telling.
msfiddlestix
(8,178 posts)significant event(s) in terms of "opportunity" in conspiracy, planning out the execution of those plots. With the motive already fairly well established, in my non-lawyer opinion.
msfiddlestix
(8,178 posts)I think we tend to forget or dismiss how much the media (generally speaking) will sensationalize certain topics and do almost whatever it takes to draw in more viewers/ratings for revenue.
When we are passionate about a certain topic, well it's click bait season. There is a demand after all.
I tend to get caught up in it myself from time to time and so have decided to stop watching it all together.
come here to skim the headlines, looking for word that tfg and his confederates have been arrested, charged etc etc etc.
malaise
(296,118 posts)😀😀
Rhiannon12866
(255,539 posts)Warpy
(114,615 posts)Courts had already heard the evidence, or lack of it since blogs from right wing randos aren't really evidence, and found the lot absolutely non credible.
You might have been shocked that your Lard and Savior lost, but lose, he did.
Carlitos Brigante
(26,848 posts)Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)I mean, besides the lowly everyday brainwashed Maga dipshits who were stupid enough to obey their orders and storm the Capitol.
spanone
(141,621 posts)malaise
(296,118 posts)I'm with Ari on this one - Cruz was part of the bureaucratization of the coup.
He is a fucking treasonous scumbag.
spanone
(141,621 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,271 posts)Doubtful.
lees1975
(7,046 posts)why bother with Cruz?
LOLarkey
(23 posts)And I think we are only finding out a small part of it