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Ted Cruz is in big trouble - new audio (Original Post) malaise Apr 2023 OP
Watching. O lordy, Cancun Cruz, there are tapes. deminks Apr 2023 #1
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Apr 2023 #3
LOCK HIM UP!! LOCK HIM UP!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2023 #23
I sure hope so. Ocelot II Apr 2023 #2
ReTHUGs are tearing their hair out malaise Apr 2023 #9
A "dick" that now needs to be Indicted Cha Apr 2023 #11
Why the corporate media is not screaming for the resignation of the entire Republican party Alexander Of Assyria Apr 2023 #28
Gottit. It's open-season for whistle-blowers. Dominion was the damn lindysalsagal Apr 2023 #4
Yep malaise Apr 2023 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Apr 2023 #7
Anyone else sick of these fucking traitors? FalloutShelter Apr 2023 #5
Been sick of them. LoisB Apr 2023 #8
My theme song for today's Maria and Cruz tapes malaise Apr 2023 #12
OMG! I LOVE LOVE LOVE that song!! Yes it's a good theme song for today! liberalla Apr 2023 #24
Agree malaise Apr 2023 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Apr 2023 #12
You bet stage left Apr 2023 #29
100% FalloutShelter Apr 2023 #30
right ?! uponit7771 Apr 2023 #38
Lock all of these mofo's up! madinmaryland Apr 2023 #10
Holy Crap! DET Apr 2023 #14
Lot of them. Kid Berwyn Apr 2023 #15
Lissie, Adam et al are waiting in the wings malaise Apr 2023 #16
Absolutely Yeah. Kid Berwyn Apr 2023 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Apr 2023 #17
Uh oh -- looks like Ted left another slime trail.... Blue Owl Apr 2023 #18
I'm guessing his daughters will be happy to testify against Cruz. Hassler Apr 2023 #19
No, he's not. brooklynite Apr 2023 #20
Ted Cruz Google search: Cancun extradition treaty U.S. tanyev Apr 2023 #21
The tape was from January 2nd and he knew all the details... kentuck Apr 2023 #26
Correct malaise Apr 2023 #27
My intuition Puppyjive Apr 2023 #31
Here's the video for those who missed it: Rhiannon12866 Apr 2023 #32
Thank you! dflprincess Apr 2023 #33
Ari Melber was the only one who's covered this - so far. He's great on breaking legal news Rhiannon12866 Apr 2023 #37
I'm not a lawyer, but I feel like there would have to be a hell of a lot more than what's on msfiddlestix Apr 2023 #34
+1, uponit7771 Apr 2023 #39
Cruz could have been up to his ass in Proud Boy insurrection plotters, but... LudwigPastorius Apr 2023 #43
I suspect, there may be other audio or video recordings that might specifically implicate him msfiddlestix Apr 2023 #46
It was the Willard where the war room was. Bunch of plotters there...a bit surprising we wiggs Apr 2023 #48
Right. Thanks for the reminder. Yeah I agree. Its been radio silence on what seems to *me* a very msfiddlestix Apr 2023 #49
Yeppers.. Agree. msfiddlestix Apr 2023 #50
Thank you as always malaise Apr 2023 #41
He brought us a lot of breaking news today! Rhiannon12866 Apr 2023 #42
?A credible assessment," Teddy? There's your problem Warpy Apr 2023 #35
Is he, though? nt Carlitos Brigante Apr 2023 #36
When will any of these traitorous mfers pay a price for their treason? Sky Jewels Apr 2023 #40
K&R spanone Apr 2023 #44
Cruz has responded - said he admits to the plan malaise Apr 2023 #51
Unbelievable. spanone Apr 2023 #52
Will the DOJ go after sitting members of congress? Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #45
IF we're not going to lock up the instigator and perpetrator, lees1975 Apr 2023 #47
Ted Cruz is in trouble LOLarkey Apr 2023 #53

Ocelot II

(130,538 posts)
2. I sure hope so.
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 06:11 PM
Apr 2023

But nothing is likely to happen to him because everybody already knows he's a dick.

Cha

(319,079 posts)
11. A "dick" that now needs to be Indicted
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 06:23 PM
Apr 2023

for Inciting Violence.. plotting to Overthrow a Fair Election.

There's Audio Tapes!

Hope we get to hear what's on them.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
28. Why the corporate media is not screaming for the resignation of the entire Republican party
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 08:32 PM
Apr 2023

can only mean there isn’t a viable third option…how else to make ultra profitable election campaign horse races??

America could use a third party like Canada NDP, more liberal than the Liberals, and with no cray and coddled RW extremists anywhere…corporate media would then have to support the more conservative Democratic Party…no other option! Win win!

lindysalsagal

(22,915 posts)
4. Gottit. It's open-season for whistle-blowers. Dominion was the damn
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 06:12 PM
Apr 2023

And the water's gushing. Shoes dropping, no, monsooning.

Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #4)

liberalla

(11,089 posts)
24. OMG! I LOVE LOVE LOVE that song!! Yes it's a good theme song for today!
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 08:15 PM
Apr 2023

That song makes me start moving and dancing... I can't fight it and wouldn't even want to try!

Response to FalloutShelter (Reply #5)

stage left

(3,306 posts)
29. You bet
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 08:41 PM
Apr 2023

I think all decent people who are paying attention are...and have been for a long, long time.

DET

(2,499 posts)
14. Holy Crap!
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 06:45 PM
Apr 2023

In a sane world, I would think that Ted Cruz would at least be taken in and questioned immediately. I always figured he was guilty, but Cruz is almost as slick as Trump. Maybe one day before he dies, Ted will be convicted - of something.

malaise

(296,118 posts)
16. Lissie, Adam et al are waiting in the wings
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 07:00 PM
Apr 2023

to pick up the pieces and it will be pieces by the time the dust settles.

Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #15)

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
20. No, he's not.
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 07:11 PM
Apr 2023

Wanting a Court to overturn an election result is unethical but not criminal.

And FWIW, it won't have any impact on his re-election.

kentuck

(115,407 posts)
26. The tape was from January 2nd and he knew all the details...
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 08:19 PM
Apr 2023

Which would indicate he was in on the plan.

And the plan was to overturn the election.

It seems there was a "Commission" in the works if they had succeeded in sending the votes back to the states?

Rhiannon12866

(255,539 posts)
32. Here's the video for those who missed it:
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 08:51 PM
Apr 2023


Hear Ted Cruz caught on tape plotting 'step two' of Jan. 6 Coup - The Beat - MSNBC
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017823432

In an MSNBC exclusive, MSNBC Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber reports on new tape recordings of Sen. Ted Cruz and Fox's Maria Bartiromo. Cruz is caught pushing a fake “commission” to steal the 2020 election and outlining his plot just four days prior to January 6th, 2021.

Melber breaks down the damaging "Cruz tapes" and how Cruz went from a Trump foe to a planner of 2020 plot for Trump.



dflprincess

(29,343 posts)
33. Thank you!
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 09:00 PM
Apr 2023

I first heard about it on DU but, so far, I haven't heard any more about it on MSNBC.

Rhiannon12866

(255,539 posts)
37. Ari Melber was the only one who's covered this - so far. He's great on breaking legal news
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 09:06 PM
Apr 2023

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
34. I'm not a lawyer, but I feel like there would have to be a hell of a lot more than what's on
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 09:01 PM
Apr 2023

the audio posted to be legally implicated and charged. I feel like the content of the audio is not even close to anything illegal.

but I'm not a lawyer, I'm probably wrong. But I wouldn't hang my hat on this thing.



LudwigPastorius

(14,725 posts)
43. Cruz could have been up to his ass in Proud Boy insurrection plotters, but...
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 10:46 PM
Apr 2023

the statements he made in these tapes don't seem to implicate him.

I think a lot of people are hearing what they want to hear. Wish I were wrong.

I'm glad that Prosecutor Smith is following this line of inquiry, though.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
46. I suspect, there may be other audio or video recordings that might specifically implicate him
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 11:48 AM
Apr 2023

more directly. I feel like we knew he was involved just as LG and other Senators, House Reps etc involved in supporting it, but having a direct hand and involvement in the plotting and commission of the coup, I think would require more than floating and promoting a plan. Personally, I suspect that happened in part at the hotel (i'm forgetting the name of it now) where the Proud Boys and Lindsey Graham and others were captured in snapshots literally arm in arm posing for the photo. they called it the War Room.


We knew they were involved. but we didn't and still don't have the means to provide the hard evidence that would have to come from recordings, documents, statements etc.

Ted Cruz's statements on the recordings heard on Ari's show indicated support while floating and promoting a rough plan of action. But wouldn't his lawyer say he was just theorizing what could be done and how it could be done is protected by free speech but that isn't evidence of actually doing it.

I don't know for sure, cuz I'm not a lawyer so I'm not qualified to determine what is and is not solid evidence.

Personally, my faith in justice in our country would be greatly restored if Cruz' conversation would at least be considered a co-conspirator., and frog march him the entire cadre of coup supporters in the house, the senate, and other positions of state and federal offices right up to maximum prisons.













wiggs

(8,812 posts)
48. It was the Willard where the war room was. Bunch of plotters there...a bit surprising we
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 12:14 PM
Apr 2023

don't hear more about the two war rooms and who was in them. Suggests that the participants might be either targets or witnesses for the SC and/or DOJ, calling off the Jan 6 committee from pursuing. They should be very worried.

IIRC bot much mention of the Willard in the Jan 6 trials of Oath Keepers and Proud Boys (I've been following every day) which seems telling.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
49. Right. Thanks for the reminder. Yeah I agree. Its been radio silence on what seems to *me* a very
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 01:03 PM
Apr 2023

significant event(s) in terms of "opportunity" in conspiracy, planning out the execution of those plots. With the motive already fairly well established, in my non-lawyer opinion.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
50. Yeppers.. Agree.
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 05:12 PM
Apr 2023

I think we tend to forget or dismiss how much the media (generally speaking) will sensationalize certain topics and do almost whatever it takes to draw in more viewers/ratings for revenue.

When we are passionate about a certain topic, well it's click bait season. There is a demand after all.

I tend to get caught up in it myself from time to time and so have decided to stop watching it all together.

come here to skim the headlines, looking for word that tfg and his confederates have been arrested, charged etc etc etc.


Warpy

(114,615 posts)
35. ?A credible assessment," Teddy? There's your problem
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 09:01 PM
Apr 2023

Courts had already heard the evidence, or lack of it since blogs from right wing randos aren't really evidence, and found the lot absolutely non credible.

You might have been shocked that your Lard and Savior lost, but lose, he did.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
40. When will any of these traitorous mfers pay a price for their treason?
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 10:09 PM
Apr 2023

I mean, besides the lowly everyday brainwashed Maga dipshits who were stupid enough to obey their orders and storm the Capitol.

malaise

(296,118 posts)
51. Cruz has responded - said he admits to the plan
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 06:33 PM
Apr 2023

I'm with Ari on this one - Cruz was part of the bureaucratization of the coup.

He is a fucking treasonous scumbag.

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