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RandySF

(85,039 posts)
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 10:43 PM Apr 2023

Man using leaf blower shot in the head, killed by neighbor in Northern Illinois

ANTIOCH, Ill. — An elderly man in Northern Illinois has been charged with murder after prosecutors say he fatally shot his neighbor in the head while he was using a leaf blower earlier this month.

The Lake County Sheriff's Office says 79-year-old Ettore Lacchei was arrested and charged with two counts of first-degree murder in connection to the death of 59-year-old William Martys.

Deputies were dispatched to the 40700 block of North Black Oak Avenue, Unincorporated Antioch, on April 12 for a report of an unresponsive man on a driveway. The man, identified as Martys, was found shot in the head and later died at the hospital.

Lacchei, who is Martys next-door neighbor, had "various perceived grievances with Martys," according to the Lake County Sheriff's Office.

On the day of the murder, Martys was approached by Lacchei while he was using a leaf blower in his yard. Lacchei began arguing with Martys and then allegedly shot him in the head, the sheriff's office says.


https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/elderly-man-shoots-kills-neighbor-who-was-using-his-leaf-blower-in-northern-illinois

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Man using leaf blower shot in the head, killed by neighbor in Northern Illinois (Original Post) RandySF Apr 2023 OP
the new electric ones are much quieter. WarGamer Apr 2023 #1
Yeah, because that's the real problem. Maru Kitteh Apr 2023 #6
No need to be testy... WarGamer Apr 2023 #7
Leaf blowers are awful ecstatic Apr 2023 #9
and weed whippers... WarGamer Apr 2023 #11
That's All I've Ever Had ProfessorGAC Apr 2023 #35
It's not just the sound Arthur_Frain Apr 2023 #39
I apologize. The old guy shot him because he had a gun, and that's Maru Kitteh Apr 2023 #10
What if he ran him over with a car? WarGamer Apr 2023 #14
Well that's much more difficult and potentially survivable isn't it. Maru Kitteh Apr 2023 #15
In my own home town... a few days ago... WarGamer Apr 2023 #18
I stand by what I've said. 'We need to change people's hearts" is right-wing pablum. Maru Kitteh Apr 2023 #22
It's too bad this is a digital platform. WarGamer Apr 2023 #23
It's much easier for a 79-year old man to kill with a gun than without. RandySF Apr 2023 #26
I too am 100% for both of those things, but criminy, Maru Kitteh Apr 2023 #27
I don't we should be as dismissive of the mental health aspects XorXor Apr 2023 #38
"there's something unique and dark and murderous about American culture." ecstatic Apr 2023 #40
Next thing you know a basketball will be kicked into your yard. sheshe2 Apr 2023 #16
he has been attacking neighbours up and down the street for ages, I am sure if it had not been Celerity Apr 2023 #19
evil... sad and unfortunate. WarGamer Apr 2023 #20
oh, the irony (foreshadowing?) Celerity Apr 2023 #24
yikes... good find, Celerity WarGamer Apr 2023 #25
I Like That! (nt) ProfessorGAC Apr 2023 #36
Because he had a gun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sanatanadharma Apr 2023 #31
I think there is plenty of need to be testy Renew Deal Apr 2023 #33
Why he did it: Caliman73 Apr 2023 #34
That's horrific, but TWO counts of first degree murder? rsdsharp Apr 2023 #2
Double Tap * Jack from Charlotte Apr 2023 #5
New NRA talking point: Only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a leaf blower. n/t John1956PA Apr 2023 #3
Wow. 2naSalit Apr 2023 #4
"An armed society is a poli...err....leafy society." LudwigPastorius Apr 2023 #8
Same little craphole town moniss Apr 2023 #12
Rand Paul take note.... Diamond_Dog Apr 2023 #13
why two accounts of 1st degree murder? BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 2023 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Kaleva Apr 2023 #21
I can't give the exact numbers canetoad Apr 2023 #28
A lot. RandySF Apr 2023 #29
Enjoy prison old man. You're going to die there. ZonkerHarris Apr 2023 #30
There is no 2nd amendment carve out for demented, angry and mean sanatanadharma Apr 2023 #32
I guess he didn't consider noise vs rest of his life in prison womanofthehills Apr 2023 #37
omg! horrible story. nt ecstatic Apr 2023 #41
Wow Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2023 #42

Maru Kitteh

(31,858 posts)
6. Yeah, because that's the real problem.
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 10:55 PM
Apr 2023

I really don't care if it was the loudest leaf blower on Earth. As a matter of fact, I'd love to see a whole fucking crowd of activists show up with the loudest, smelliest leaf blowers they can find.


WarGamer

(18,708 posts)
7. No need to be testy...
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 10:56 PM
Apr 2023

I was just thinking WHY the old guy did it...

Doesn't mean it was OK to do it... just explains the WHY.

ecstatic

(35,088 posts)
9. Leaf blowers are awful
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 10:58 PM
Apr 2023

It's the first sound I hear on Monday morning. Thank goodness they're limited to once a week in my neighborhood.

WarGamer

(18,708 posts)
11. and weed whippers...
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 10:59 PM
Apr 2023

In my city I think we've banned gas powered ones... everyone uses the battery powered ones.

ProfessorGAC

(76,959 posts)
35. That's All I've Ever Had
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 01:42 PM
Apr 2023

When my blower (which I only use to blow leaves out of the garden, then mulch & collect with my battery driven lawnmower) bites the dust, I'm getting an EGO blower.
When a blower carburetor goes bad, replacement is nearly the sane price as a repair. So, electric it is.
I never understood the need for a gas power weed whip for homeowner with a typical lot. Same with hedge trimmers. I've never had the need for more power than a battery operated Craftsman supplies.

Arthur_Frain

(2,397 posts)
39. It's not just the sound
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 03:21 PM
Apr 2023

Leaf blowers are the ultimate “gonna make my problem go away by making it your problem” tool. Rarely if ever do I see leaf blowers bagging any leaves/grass.

Maru Kitteh

(31,858 posts)
10. I apologize. The old guy shot him because he had a gun, and that's
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 10:59 PM
Apr 2023

how we problem-solve now. The leaf-blower is incidental.


WarGamer

(18,708 posts)
14. What if he ran him over with a car?
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 11:02 PM
Apr 2023

Don't get me wrong, I've argued here many times... guns are tool #1 for murderers.

And if I had a magic wand and could make them all disappear, I would.

But... IMHO... there's something unique and dark and murderous about American culture. I believe 110% that without guns, we'd STILL be a violent country.

Maru Kitteh

(31,858 posts)
15. Well that's much more difficult and potentially survivable isn't it.
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 11:07 PM
Apr 2023

So quite likely, the victim would be alive. I'll take my chances diving out of the way of an 80yo driver and call the ambulance for him when he crashes into the light pole at the end of the cul-de-sac.

Right after I call the police.


WarGamer

(18,708 posts)
18. In my own home town... a few days ago...
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 11:12 PM
Apr 2023

A fugitive on the run INTENTIONALLY ran his car up onto a curb in front of a High School, killing a 15 year old.

There's something WRONG in the hearts of these people.

The tool they use... is just a matter of what they can get their hands on.

Maru Kitteh

(31,858 posts)
22. I stand by what I've said. 'We need to change people's hearts" is right-wing pablum.
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 11:15 PM
Apr 2023

Belongs right next to "thoughts and prayers."


WarGamer

(18,708 posts)
23. It's too bad this is a digital platform.
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 11:18 PM
Apr 2023

Over a tea we'd really enjoy each others thoughts.

I think it's ABSOLUTELY what is in the persons head.

The gun is the preferred tool of the violent. That's a fact.

But I can't possibly believe that minus the gun... they wouldn't just find another way to kill.

The largest mass murders in the USA haven't been from guns, they've been from arson and explosions.

I'm 100% for gun control.

I'm 100% for researching wtf is wrong in Americans heads.

Maru Kitteh

(31,858 posts)
27. I too am 100% for both of those things, but criminy,
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 11:32 PM
Apr 2023

I've been to other countries and seen vigorous arguments break out aplenty. Not once was I ever worried about getting caught in the crossfire of a hail of bullets.

Occams Razor.

XorXor

(690 posts)
38. I don't we should be as dismissive of the mental health aspects
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 02:31 PM
Apr 2023

That doesn't mean it's the only solution, but it has to be part of it. I feel like it's dismissed by many because the pro-gun right just use it as a distraction to move the topic away from guns. They have no intention on doing anything that would help the mental health aspects of these sorts of things. In fact, they would likely try to block anything that did address it. But I don't think we should let them own that cause for their own fake reason. We should integrate real mental health solutions into our plans and then force them show their true colors.

ecstatic

(35,088 posts)
40. "there's something unique and dark and murderous about American culture."
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 06:00 PM
Apr 2023

This country was founded (stolen) by some very violent, cruel, murderous individuals. Harsh, but true. Those of us who do not have violent tendencies probably have little or no genetic ties to the "forefathers."

sheshe2

(97,844 posts)
16. Next thing you know a basketball will be kicked into your yard.
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 11:09 PM
Apr 2023

Or a neighbor laughs to loud.
Knocks at your door
Turns into your driveway.
Delivers groceries.
Black while being a neighbor.

Celerity

(54,622 posts)
19. he has been attacking neighbours up and down the street for ages, I am sure if it had not been
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 11:12 PM
Apr 2023

the blower (if that was even the cause) it may well have been another thing.

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/man-charged-shooting-killing-neighbor-unincorporated-antioch/



Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
34. Why he did it:
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 12:38 PM
Apr 2023

He is an angry/scared old man who had access to a gun.

There are leaf blowers up and down my street, sometimes they are being used too early for my taste. I have never thought "Hmm, I'm gonna shoot someone in the head"

The noise may be annoying, but the motivation was internal.

John1956PA

(4,996 posts)
3. New NRA talking point: Only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a leaf blower. n/t
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 10:51 PM
Apr 2023

Response to RandySF (Original post)

canetoad

(20,811 posts)
28. I can't give the exact numbers
Tue Apr 25, 2023, 11:41 PM
Apr 2023

But am I wrong in thinking that many of the recent 'get off my lawn' shootings are by people in their 60s and 70s? It seems like it to me, but please correct me if I'm wrong.

Can't help but think of the ageing population, the sheer nastiness of the magats, the amount of weapons in the US and a large percentage of people developing dementia.

sanatanadharma

(4,090 posts)
32. There is no 2nd amendment carve out for demented, angry and mean
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 12:30 PM
Apr 2023

The 2nd amendment doesn't authorize societal self-defense so we keep arming the many who are sociopaths, psychopaths and common variety incompetents, a well as the clearly deranged.

Schools need classes on making of wills and arranging end of life issues ahead of time. One never knows when normal daily activities may result in the death of dad at work, the kids in school, the teens at a concert, or mom in the grocery store.



womanofthehills

(10,993 posts)
37. I guess he didn't consider noise vs rest of his life in prison
Wed Apr 26, 2023, 02:11 PM
Apr 2023

In my previous neighborhood, we had a young guy with a wife & 2 kids often running around the neighborhood drunk with his gun. When his wife left, he went crazy (his house was next to mine) - I heard a gunshot - A neighbor & I came out & called the police because we knew he was suicidal. When the police came, his sister drove up & started yelling at us for calling the police & for me calling animal control about his poor dog. . Sister knocked on door - he says “Hey Sis - watch this & shoots himself in the head. It was sad but we were all releaved. Next month, his wife moves back in with a new guy.

About 3 days before he died, there was a shot right under my bedroom window. He stole someone’s pig, tied it to the fence between us and shot it in the head - then had a huge barbecue.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(136,281 posts)
42. Wow
Thu Apr 27, 2023, 09:07 PM
Apr 2023

I admit they can be obnoxiously noisy but I've never felt like killing someone over these.

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