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SCOOP: New whistleblower docs show Jane Roberts, who is married to SCOTUS Chief Justice John Roberts (Original Post) BeckyDem Apr 2023 OP
No wonder he doesn't want to speak with the senate. Bev54 Apr 2023 #1
Exactly. BeckyDem Apr 2023 #2
He's not protecting Thomas, he is protecting himself. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #13
Yes, it is becoming very obvious, and now I am wondering about the rest of them Bev54 Apr 2023 #17
Yes it is now glaringly obvious Thomas is just the tip of the iceberg. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #19
Ah, the swamp stinks. BSdetect Apr 2023 #3
Subpoena his ass, now C_U_L8R Apr 2023 #4
Have to wait for Feinstein to get subpoena power back. Bev54 Apr 2023 #18
And all 9 Justices (yes even the liberals) said they don't support more oversight Marius25 Apr 2023 #5
It should not be up to them, period. The liberals may be fearful of a conservative led review. BeckyDem Apr 2023 #7
Agree with statement. Coequal and independent branches of government is all the statement says. Alexander Of Assyria Apr 2023 #25
The judiciary has always been under the control of Congress Farmer-Rick Apr 2023 #32
Congress only has limited authority to grant SCOTUS jurisdictional issues...criminal, civil, Alexander Of Assyria Apr 2023 #41
That's not how the US Constitution reads Farmer-Rick Apr 2023 #43
No. The clause has been interpreted by courts to be exactly what it is...jurisdictional. Alexander Of Assyria Apr 2023 #44
Of course the supreme court Farmer-Rick Apr 2023 #45
Courts are mandated to interpret laws, it's their very reason to exist. Alexander Of Assyria Apr 2023 #46
Absolutely it should NOT be up to them! calimary Apr 2023 #49
Yep. BeckyDem Apr 2023 #50
It is an illegal junta. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #14
They don't do shame. dchill Apr 2023 #33
The most learned legal scholars in the world are devoid of a moral core. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #35
My take is that they're in the wrong profession. dchill Apr 2023 #36
Yes the law is now completely detached from right and wrong. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #37
It's not oversight that's the issue, it's lack of an ethical code. Alexander Of Assyria Apr 2023 #22
👇👇👇👁️ Goonch Apr 2023 #6
shady BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 2023 #8
Because of course. What's the good of a lifetime appointment that literally allows you to impose Comfortably_Numb Apr 2023 #9
Lifetime job, no rules or oversight, and rich people offering bribes. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #15
They are smart enough enough to know that the cash teat will dry up if they start ruling against the Comfortably_Numb Apr 2023 #29
You're a smart little cookie. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #38
Going.....going......sold---- for a relative pittance. Comfortably_Numb Apr 2023 #40
No wonder he doesn't want Ethic oversight. republianmushroom Apr 2023 #10
Great! ffr Apr 2023 #11
Come on folks, they are there to interpret the law, not keep it. Chainfire Apr 2023 #12
For those who make the rules, there are no rules. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #16
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? COL Mustard Apr 2023 #26
We have created an evil super being class. They answer to no one. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #39
What kind of professional group refuses to make ethical rules? Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #20
Here's a DU thread that doesn't force viewers to go to musk's rotten platform erronis Apr 2023 #21
Has anyone checked BOSSHOG Apr 2023 #23
But there's no ethical conflict here..... COL Mustard Apr 2023 #24
So of the 9 we have 4 dirty Botany Apr 2023 #27
The Supreme Court is an open sewer. The Jungle 1 Apr 2023 #28
Not new-new but worth hammering until traction happens. Thanks! UTUSN Apr 2023 #30
Shocked, shocked I say ... aggiesal Apr 2023 #31
Oooooooh, they do like that free ride on the Gravy Train. calimary Apr 2023 #34
I could be wrong, but i'm very concerned that bluestarone Apr 2023 #42
Right. Now that they're exposed, there's no need to continue the charade ecstatic Apr 2023 #48
So... 6 of the 9 justices are bought and paid for... ecstatic Apr 2023 #47

Irish_Dem

(81,098 posts)
13. He's not protecting Thomas, he is protecting himself.
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 07:36 PM
Apr 2023

He is as corrupt as all the others.

Bev54

(13,425 posts)
17. Yes, it is becoming very obvious, and now I am wondering about the rest of them
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 07:46 PM
Apr 2023

as well, seeing how none of them think they need oversight or ethics rules.

Irish_Dem

(81,098 posts)
19. Yes it is now glaringly obvious Thomas is just the tip of the iceberg.
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 07:52 PM
Apr 2023

No oversight or ethics for any of them.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
5. And all 9 Justices (yes even the liberals) said they don't support more oversight
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 07:16 PM
Apr 2023

The Supreme Court is not legitimate

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
7. It should not be up to them, period. The liberals may be fearful of a conservative led review.
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 07:21 PM
Apr 2023

All nine justices, in a rare step, on Tuesday released a joint statement reaffirming their voluntary adherence to a general code of conduct but rebutting proposals for independent oversight, mandatory compliance with ethics rules and greater transparency in cases of recusal.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/9-supreme-court-justices-push-back-oversight-raises/story?id=98917921


 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
25. Agree with statement. Coequal and independent branches of government is all the statement says.
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 08:35 PM
Apr 2023

Farmer-Rick

(12,625 posts)
32. The judiciary has always been under the control of Congress
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 09:50 PM
Apr 2023

As outlined in the constitution that the Supremes ignore.

"The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court, and in such inferior courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behaviour."

"The Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make."

Clause 8:
*No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State."

The Supreme Court is out of control because Congress is not regulating them. And because judicial review is a power grab that is not established by the constitution.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
41. Congress only has limited authority to grant SCOTUS jurisdictional issues...criminal, civil,
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 10:53 AM
Apr 2023

administrative law..etc. The clause gives the Supreme Court its standing.

Not regulation of its conduct or its powers, only removal of any judge by individual for cause impeachment. Otherwise the separation of powers wall will be breached.

The 3 Liberal judges signed the letter, I am unaware of any explanatory note saying anything else.

Farmer-Rick

(12,625 posts)
43. That's not how the US Constitution reads
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 11:14 AM
Apr 2023

But it is how most of the corrupted Supreme Courts have interpreted it.

There is nothing in the US Constitution allowing for judicial review either and yet.......

By allowing for judicial review, they have taken on legislative powers of Congress. They are legislating from the bench. And yet that infringement is not questioned. So much for separation of powers. The court also takes executive power by reviewing executive policies and decisions that are not laws.

I read that text and it is very clear to me that Congress was supposed to have much greater control over the Supreme Court, except in judicial powers. But since Congress is broken, just watch as the 9 unelected judges accrue more and more power. The separation of powers has already gone away. The Supremes have made a power grab and have won.

Farmer-Rick

(12,625 posts)
45. Of course the supreme court
Sun Apr 30, 2023, 09:58 AM
Apr 2023

Is going to interpret it to suit their needs. And by "courts" you mean the Supreme Court that benefited in it's power grab.

And I agree with you that Congress has no control over judicial matters that is definitely in the realm of the courts. But judicial review is a made up power that gives legislative and executive power to the courts.

I can read for myself and the constitution clearly gives Congress control over the Supreme Court except in judicial matters.

But I'll grant you that since Congress is broken, the end result, despite the made up power of judicial review, would have ended up in the same place.

It's reminds me of how preachers interpret the bible. They pick and choose the parts they like.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
46. Courts are mandated to interpret laws, it's their very reason to exist.
Sun Apr 30, 2023, 12:23 PM
Apr 2023

Much like farmers are mandated to grow plants!

calimary

(89,890 posts)
49. Absolutely it should NOT be up to them!
Sun Apr 30, 2023, 02:46 PM
Apr 2023

Last edited Sun Apr 30, 2023, 03:31 PM - Edit history (1)

All nine issue a statement? Frankly, ANY “statement” that includes Clarence “the Crook” Thomas is immediately suspect, and needs to be regarded (and reacted to) that way.

Irish_Dem

(81,098 posts)
35. The most learned legal scholars in the world are devoid of a moral core.
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 10:01 PM
Apr 2023

Yes. They would have to have a conscience to feel shame.

And they have none.

Irish_Dem

(81,098 posts)
37. Yes the law is now completely detached from right and wrong.
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 10:11 PM
Apr 2023

The law is used to punish and control others.
And to protect the rich and powerful.

No common sense.
Not one iota of concern for the American people.

The Supreme Court pretends to come from a moral core, but it is all a lie and fake.
It is all politics, power and money.

School children being murdered in classrooms means nothing to them at all.
Women dying in hospital parking lots, not a problem.

The loss of our democracy and the installation of a fascist regime is fine with them.

Being bribed with $$millions and then ruling in favor of those rich crooks is fine
with them.




 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
22. It's not oversight that's the issue, it's lack of an ethical code.
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 08:33 PM
Apr 2023

Oversight is an attack on separation of powers, so the liberal justices are correct as well on oversight.

Comfortably_Numb

(4,188 posts)
9. Because of course. What's the good of a lifetime appointment that literally allows you to impose
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 07:24 PM
Apr 2023

your bought- and-paid-for pronouncements over the entire country, if you can’t parlay that into multimillion dollar payoffs? John and Clarence should take a bow. We are taking it right upside the head. Jesus, what a bunch of simps those morally bankrupt thug-ass, black-robe wearing grifters must think we are.

Irish_Dem

(81,098 posts)
15. Lifetime job, no rules or oversight, and rich people offering bribes.
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 07:40 PM
Apr 2023

Huge bribes for decades.

And then instead of being grateful for the ultimate grift they have to stick
it to the American people as much as they can.

"Jesus, what a bunch of simps those morally bankrupt thug-ass, black-robe wearing grifters must think we are.."

Comfortably_Numb

(4,188 posts)
29. They are smart enough enough to know that the cash teat will dry up if they start ruling against the
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 09:05 PM
Apr 2023

wealthy check writers. Explains a lot, doesn’t it?

Irish_Dem

(81,098 posts)
38. You're a smart little cookie.
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 10:20 PM
Apr 2023

You are now an honorary member of the "snark and connect dots club."



Yes we now have drawn back the curtain behind the finest legal
minds on the planet.

And behind the curtain is a blank signed check.
Not a law book in sight.

That is exactly how the Supreme Court makes decisions.





Comfortably_Numb

(4,188 posts)
40. Going.....going......sold---- for a relative pittance.
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 11:16 PM
Apr 2023

Soulless money launderers. Bribe in, decision out. When are the snark meetings? I don’t want to miss a single one!!!

Irish_Dem

(81,098 posts)
39. We have created an evil super being class. They answer to no one.
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 10:44 PM
Apr 2023

King of kings, divine beings.

There are no rules for those who make the rules.

Now we know that no one watches the watchman.

BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
23. Has anyone checked
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 08:33 PM
Apr 2023

The semi annual Supreme Court Self review and recommendations on their moral lapses and lack of integrity report? Chaired by Sammy the rat? Chaired by Slappy? I “heard” they are top secret documents but you can find them in mara lago and on Harlan crows yacht.

COL Mustard

(8,188 posts)
24. But there's no ethical conflict here.....
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 08:34 PM
Apr 2023

Nothing to see. Nothing at all. Move along, peasants.

Botany

(77,228 posts)
27. So of the 9 we have 4 dirty
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 08:51 PM
Apr 2023

Thomas. Crow

Kavanagh. Who paid off his debts?

Gouache. Daddy big bucks of the law firm with
business in front of the Court buying his property
In Colorado.

Robert's wife getting 10+ million putting right wingers onto the Fed. Bench.

calimary

(89,890 posts)
34. Oooooooh, they do like that free ride on the Gravy Train.
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 10:01 PM
Apr 2023

Impose a code of ETHICS!!!

Immediately!!!!!

bluestarone

(22,096 posts)
42. I could be wrong, but i'm very concerned that
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 10:58 AM
Apr 2023

THIS SC. will now rule on everything the RETHUGS want. Just to protect their own illegal activity. We'll see, i guess.

ecstatic

(35,064 posts)
48. Right. Now that they're exposed, there's no need to continue the charade
Sun Apr 30, 2023, 12:51 PM
Apr 2023

of being impartial justices who will carefully consider all sides before making a decision.

ecstatic

(35,064 posts)
47. So... 6 of the 9 justices are bought and paid for...
Sun Apr 30, 2023, 12:48 PM
Apr 2023

Yes, I'm going to go ahead and assume that each and every one of the "conservative" justices is corrupt at this point. They each have dirt on each other--it's the mutual assured destruction concept at work.

Time to start over. They might not have to face any consequences, but a corrupt Supreme Court has no mandate. Period. So what are we doing here?

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