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kentuck

(115,407 posts)
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 09:00 AM Apr 2023

Trump is a serial criminal. All of his crimes will never be discovered or prosecuted.

As soon as you turn over one rock, there are two more to turn over. The truth is that even if he can do something legally and straight-up, he will choose to do it illegally. Because he is a snake and he will never be an honest person.

The latest news is that the Special Counsel may be looking at mail fraud for illegal campaign spending and raising of funds. Sure, he can uncover that rock but there will be another, and another, and another.

Someday soon he will be called to answer for "some" of his criminal activities. However, there is not enough time left in this world for him or his prosecutors to charge him with all his crimes.

Also, he is unable to tell the truth, even when it is to his advantage. He should never be trusted by anyone.

Surely, if there is dogshit on the bottom of his shoes, then someone else must have carried it into the room.

We are dealing with a very mentally-ill person.

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Trump is a serial criminal. All of his crimes will never be discovered or prosecuted. (Original Post) kentuck Apr 2023 OP
Donald Trump is going to be gab13by13 Apr 2023 #1
Trump has the ability to erase from memory all uncomfortable thoughts... kentuck Apr 2023 #3
You're Correct musclecar6 Apr 2023 #19
Morally bankrupt political party. moondust Apr 2023 #37
We need indictments, trials, convictions. Tetrachloride Apr 2023 #2
That's true. Let me know when you find an uncompromised judicial system. jaxexpat Apr 2023 #18
I'm in a distant time zone as well. Tetrachloride Apr 2023 #25
I've only met three ivy league students in my life. Son of a long line of Cadillac dealers, a... jaxexpat Apr 2023 #31
I didn't have the fortitude / abruptness to live on the East Coast. Tetrachloride Apr 2023 #32
We are dealing with a crime lord, a don vlyons Apr 2023 #4
Asked this before. Have heard both GA and Jack Smith Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2023 #45
Every day he digs a deeper hole... MiHale Apr 2023 #5
It is like on some level, PatSeg Apr 2023 #23
He did open a casino... MiHale Apr 2023 #33
Yes that is true PatSeg Apr 2023 #56
I think he truly knows that the investigators newdayneeded Apr 2023 #36
I'm not sure PatSeg Apr 2023 #57
But his popularity not nose diving proportionately Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2023 #46
Crazy evangelists think he's JC...................... Lovie777 Apr 2023 #6
We do outnumber them gab13by13 Apr 2023 #8
If only our justice system was fair and equitable, he would have been in prison long ago Mr. Ected Apr 2023 #7
I've always thought that he had a team of people, not to determine what was illegal Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2023 #47
The guys at work say he will never be charged hydrolastic Apr 2023 #9
We need another OJ trial with national full-time coverage. kentuck Apr 2023 #10
With one small difference, I think. jaxexpat Apr 2023 #21
I disagree. I think we'll see him face charges and get convicted. ificandream Apr 2023 #11
I never doubted that he would be indicted, gab13by13 Apr 2023 #22
the filling is out of the twinkie. newdayneeded Apr 2023 #38
...IMO, to an institution for the criminally (mentally) insane. Backseat Driver Apr 2023 #54
"We are dealing with a very mentally-ill person." Septua Apr 2023 #12
"Unwilling to empathize with others' feelings, wishes, or needs." llmart Apr 2023 #15
He's aware there is a concept of empathy Captain Zero Apr 2023 #29
Yes, that's very true of most with NPD. llmart Apr 2023 #40
He's a sociopath ecstatic Apr 2023 #59
I will be satisfied if he is convicted of just one liberal N proud Apr 2023 #13
This is exactly the thing hydrolastic Apr 2023 #41
Sadly unless they get concrete evidence he told Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2023 #51
I see E. Jean Carroll's trial as the beginning of the end of Teflon Don 70sEraVet Apr 2023 #14
Yes, if I was writing the "script", PatSeg Apr 2023 #26
I'd love to think that is true but I cannot imagine them Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2023 #43
Including the origins of the pandemic - which I strongly suspect... peppertree Apr 2023 #16
What is being concluded is that YES, some people are beyond the long arm of the law. Alexander Of Assyria Apr 2023 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #20
Could be both Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2023 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #48
Makes total sense! Would LOVE to know what's going on Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2023 #53
Well I missed this from May 2022 - NPR Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2023 #55
It's interesting the number of people whose lives he touched Johonny Apr 2023 #24
You're Spot On with Your Diagnosis, Doc! panfluteman Apr 2023 #27
So just RocRizzo55 Apr 2023 #28
Yes he commits MORE crimes to cover existing crimes. live love laugh Apr 2023 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #60
I just hope the DoJ and others investigating Trump don't let themselves get caught... Silent3 Apr 2023 #34
Smith needs to be reigned in Takket Apr 2023 #35
The most important thing is that no one question Garland's timeline Orrex Apr 2023 #39
Regardless of how hideous and obvious, it appears that Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2023 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #50
So true CM Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2023 #52
He won't see jail. KentuckyWoman Apr 2023 #49
Exactly. Can't they add on more crimes while he's in prison? ecstatic Apr 2023 #58

gab13by13

(32,335 posts)
1. Donald Trump is going to be
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 09:09 AM
Apr 2023

the Republican nominee for president of the United States, for the 3rd time. What does that say about our country?

I wish that more people understood the precarious situation our democracy is in.

kentuck

(115,407 posts)
3. Trump has the ability to erase from memory all uncomfortable thoughts...
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 09:14 AM
Apr 2023

...and to blame someone else for his own actions. His world is binary - it is always "us" vs "them". He would suffocate on his own stench if he was not able to share it with his followers.

Republicans have proven the old maxim: "Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything".

musclecar6

(1,884 posts)
19. You're Correct
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 11:01 AM
Apr 2023

The people who would still vote for this would be Hitler at this late stage, are either stupid, greedy or both and don’t give a fuck about anyone else. To sum up, the garbage of our society.

moondust

(21,288 posts)
37. Morally bankrupt political party.
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 12:45 PM
Apr 2023

Large numbers have apparently convinced themselves they are God's chosen holy ones so they can commit crimes and do anything else they want without consequences.

Oh my name it ain't nothin'
My age it means less
The country I come from
Is called the Midwest
I was taught and brought up there
The laws to abide
And that land that I live in
Has God on its side

Oh, the history books tell it
They tell it so well
The cavalries charged
The Indians fell
The cavalries charged
The Indians died
Oh, the country was young
With God on its side

~

https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/30084688/Bob+Dylan/With+God+on+Our+Side


 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
18. That's true. Let me know when you find an uncompromised judicial system.
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 11:00 AM
Apr 2023

We need one capable of recognizing and able to act effectively for removal of crime from our highest institutions. We need in pretty soon, too. Ours is compromised to the hilt due mostly to the charade's main characters who believe ancient reference and arcane mis-definition are superior to facts and logic as requirements for the reliable administration of justice.

Tetrachloride

(9,624 posts)
25. I'm in a distant time zone as well.
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 11:23 AM
Apr 2023

Long ago, i turned down the Ivy League because i didn’t know anyone there. i could have learned a lot but at what cost.

So, I have never met a strong Democratic leader in over 20 years.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
31. I've only met three ivy league students in my life. Son of a long line of Cadillac dealers, a...
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 11:52 AM
Apr 2023

daughter of a moonshiner and a daughter of a professional inventor of things. Cornell, Harvard and Harvard/MIT respectively.

Are you equating strong with "ivy league educated"? I can, perhaps, see the association but I'm not sure how it would relate to electability. Do the parties have a predictable definition associated with their alma maters?

Are you equating strong Democrat with "ivy league educated"? I am perhaps fatally naive, but I find that unpalatable yet maybe an explanation for the dearth of local and state office Democratic candidates' un-electability in some regions.

Regardless, thanks for the reply.

Tetrachloride

(9,624 posts)
32. I didn't have the fortitude / abruptness to live on the East Coast.
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 12:04 PM
Apr 2023

I only knew my little pond and not very well.

The last one Dem of national status that I met lost their gumption.

It would be nice to have dozens more Dems who get on MSM and fight. I don’t know why Dems don’t make more waves.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
4. We are dealing with a crime lord, a don
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 09:25 AM
Apr 2023

His whole enterprise is a series of scams and cons. Totally deserves some rico prosecution to come his way. Strip away his properties and assets in rico prosecutions and judgements. Probably losing his assets like that would be more painful for him than spending the rest of his life in jail. He deserves both.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
45. Asked this before. Have heard both GA and Jack Smith
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 01:21 PM
Apr 2023

Might be going the RICO route. How does that work? State and Fed?

MiHale

(13,032 posts)
5. Every day he digs a deeper hole...
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 09:28 AM
Apr 2023

Witnesses intimidated, judges hassled they tell him to stop…he keeps going. The only way to stop him is cut off his thumbs and literally stick a ballgag in his mouth.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
23. It is like on some level,
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 11:17 AM
Apr 2023

he is sabotaging himself intentionally. It appears he just can't help himself. Is he trying to defy the odds or does he want to be caught? Mindboggling.

MiHale

(13,032 posts)
33. He did open a casino...
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 12:14 PM
Apr 2023

On some level he is a gambler, real estate can be considered a gamble depending on how you do it. All that adds in to what I think is a “Catch Me if You Can” mentality. All on top or at least mixed in to a narcissistic and authoritarian personality.


PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
56. Yes that is true
Sun Apr 30, 2023, 11:48 AM
Apr 2023

Though from his track record, he's not a very good gambler. He takes unreasonable risks that often fail.

"Catch Me if You Can mentality" - I think you're right. I think he enjoys the thrill of it all, evading the law and never being held accountable. I think his luck has finally run out though.

 

newdayneeded

(2,493 posts)
36. I think he truly knows that the investigators
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 12:42 PM
Apr 2023

are too timid to take down past president. This guy is not shaking in his boots as many here have stated. He simply knows he's above the law.

What would solve this is Monday, they level the 2 top indictments on him. just fucking do it! you've got a 2 foot tall stack of evidence for each crime, JUST FUCKING DO IT ALREADY!

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
57. I'm not sure
Sun Apr 30, 2023, 11:49 AM
Apr 2023

I think on some level he might be nervous knowing that eventually his luck will run out.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
46. But his popularity not nose diving proportionately
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 01:22 PM
Apr 2023

That's what we have to figure out???

Lovie777

(22,985 posts)
6. Crazy evangelists think he's JC......................
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 09:28 AM
Apr 2023

that alone is extremely disturbing.

Hopefully the Americans who enjoy democracy outweighs the insanity, that includes wacko criminal shithole.

gab13by13

(32,335 posts)
8. We do outnumber them
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 09:33 AM
Apr 2023

but Trump can win the presidency with 46% of the vote, not likely, but possible.

The states are suppressing the vote and gerrymandering so that the minority can win, not to mention cheating.

Mr. Ected

(9,714 posts)
7. If only our justice system was fair and equitable, he would have been in prison long ago
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 09:32 AM
Apr 2023

A venue from which he couldn't have been committing more crimes.

He's not just a criminal, he's an opportunist. Our toothless, preferential system gave him all the opportunity he needed to continue on his lifelong crime spree. He did the math (3rd grade level) and calculated that if, indeed, a sucker was born every minute, he'd have at least 70 million sucker votes in any election, the biggest gauntlet ever erected to insulate him from punishment.

He was never disincentivized from committing felony upon felony. In fact, his sucker brigade encouraged him and took his punishment on themselves.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
47. I've always thought that he had a team of people, not to determine what was illegal
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 01:26 PM
Apr 2023

But to think of what is complied with thru common sense, tradition, and honor system that IS NOT illegal. And how to toe the line.

hydrolastic

(547 posts)
9. The guys at work say he will never be charged
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 09:41 AM
Apr 2023

Its like someone has told them this and that its true.
Fanni willis is supposed to make "charging decisions" by sept 1. What does that even mean? He will be locked up then awaiting trial ? or are we talking about that's all she is going to do is decide to decide later. We saw it the first time when he said "Russia if you are listening" he was inviting foreign interference into our election. After countless threats he still gets away with it. He just needs to be put in a set of handcuffs. And led away.

kentuck

(115,407 posts)
10. We need another OJ trial with national full-time coverage.
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 09:45 AM
Apr 2023

Because sunlight is the best disinfectant. Everyone needs to see the same facts at the same time.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
21. With one small difference, I think.
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 11:12 AM
Apr 2023

Unlike OJ, Trump needs to be convicted and sentenced to imprisonment instead of walking because his attorney was *slicker than the prosecutor.



* slicker: a covering for inclimate weather (due to climate change); grossly criminal injustice commonly found in compromised judicial systems; eely, slimy and willing to do anything for a price (even when it's raining facts to the contrary)

ificandream

(11,837 posts)
11. I disagree. I think we'll see him face charges and get convicted.
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 09:57 AM
Apr 2023

He's done way too much to have them ignored.

gab13by13

(32,335 posts)
22. I never doubted that he would be indicted,
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 11:14 AM
Apr 2023

and I hear others say the same, not to worry, but they never give a time frame, give the logistics. This is why I disagreed with Garland's pyramid strategy, waiting to investigate Trump was playing right into his tiny hands.

If Jack Smith were to indict Trump (grand jury) on Monday, what year do you think a Trump trial would happen?

 

newdayneeded

(2,493 posts)
38. the filling is out of the twinkie.
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 12:46 PM
Apr 2023

It's almost too late to make any indictment stick. They can delay trial for at least a year, if not 2.

The indictment should have went out days after the J6 hearing.

Backseat Driver

(4,671 posts)
54. ...IMO, to an institution for the criminally (mentally) insane.
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 02:28 PM
Apr 2023

He primarily exhibits every criteria for NPD from which also flows other characteristics in other personality disorders and as he's aged those characteristics have accellerated to the point that management and therapy would never be successful and particularly as a "clear and present danger" to our national public health, national and individuals' economic well-being, and security. He's a toxic stew of disorder traits without a single shred of humanity with which to recommend himself. At this point, nothing therapists would try would be successful in improving his penchant for destroying relationships by obstruction, collusion, or exploitation. It includes what may seem to be self-sabotage that seeks punishment with the pathological serial disinhibitions of emotional, hormonal, verbal functioning that the container if organs called the human anatomical "body" requires for a sentient stable persona of neuronal brain connections that would "learn" from consequences of his bad, criminal, and emotionally deviant behaviors. Everyone with a modicum of sense would stay FAR, FAR away from someone like that! That can happen only if and when TFG is locked away...he is a danger to himself and others because he's incapable of staying within the parameters of human rights most Americans treasure: their life requiring basic needs, a liberty that doesn't impose itself without redress, though it may well influence, and the pursuit of a life, however long that lasts, well-lived in service to the promotion of those ideals that meet those abstractions of our amended flexible founding document and an allegiance with justice for ALL and consequences for the purposeful, malicious denial of most importantly, life! Yes, what won't necessarily kill may make one stronger: challenging redemption, long, painful recovery, advances of medical science. What does kill, after birth, leaves no alternative. Be kind, practice gratitude, learn all one can, and make good choices. One life to live with/wo recessitation and consequence, is all you've inevitably got.

Septua

(2,957 posts)
12. "We are dealing with a very mentally-ill person."
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 10:11 AM
Apr 2023

Correct, 'narcissistic personality disorder' to be specific.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201608/does-trump-suffer-narcissistic-personality-disorder

1) Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment by others.

2) Fixated on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.

3) Self-perception of being unique, superior, and associated with high-status people and institutions.

4) Needing constant admiration from others.

5) Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others.

6) Exploitative of others to achieve personal gain.

7) Unwilling to empathize with others' feelings, wishes, or needs.

8) Intensely jealous of others and the belief that others are equally jealous of them.

9) Pompous and arrogant demeanor.

llmart

(17,623 posts)
15. "Unwilling to empathize with others' feelings, wishes, or needs."
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 10:32 AM
Apr 2023

I would rephrase that as "inability to empathize." Most psychologists say that is the #1 hallmark of a narcissist. They have a complete inability to empathize ever. It's not something they can be taught either. It's like there is an empathy gene and they were born without it.

He is the classic case of NPD.

Captain Zero

(8,905 posts)
29. He's aware there is a concept of empathy
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 11:48 AM
Apr 2023

And as an opportunist he will put on an ACT of being empathetic. But his act only fools people who are rather devoid of empathy themselves.

llmart

(17,623 posts)
40. Yes, that's very true of most with NPD.
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 01:05 PM
Apr 2023

They're also very keen at identifying those most likely to believe their act and then manipulate them because of their gullibility.

liberal N proud

(61,194 posts)
13. I will be satisfied if he is convicted of just one
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 10:26 AM
Apr 2023

The insurrection!

He needs to go to jail for inciting January 6th

hydrolastic

(547 posts)
41. This is exactly the thing
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 01:09 PM
Apr 2023

We all saw it! it was a blatant crime committed in daylight using the authoritarian playbook.
I remember Sarah Kenziador breatheslly warning us what was happening in the middle of his term. It was incredibly dim. Later he committed and was impeached for "Inciting an insurrection". It's indisputable!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
51. Sadly unless they get concrete evidence he told
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 01:43 PM
Apr 2023

The insurrectionists to storm the building, unlikely. Ironic that his biggest crime, next to causing Covid deaths, is likely unprovable in court
And no one's even going after him for withholding PPE from blue state docs and nurses. And that was proven by House Committee

70sEraVet

(5,482 posts)
14. I see E. Jean Carroll's trial as the beginning of the end of Teflon Don
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 10:31 AM
Apr 2023

He has spent his life cheating and bullying people, and his victims have been afraid to hit back at him. Just like the bully in the playground, once the other kids see ONE kid punch the jerk in the nose, the spell is broken.
When Carroll bloodies his nose (and I think she'll be successful), the floodgates will open. We will start to see victims come forward, victims of crimes that will shock the nation.
Oh, and once their hero has been defeated by a 'mere' woman, his followers will turn away from him in disgust.
That's my prediction, anyway. Helps me sleep at night.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
43. I'd love to think that is true but I cannot imagine them
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 01:16 PM
Apr 2023

believing a guilty verdict

Too bad DNA inadmissible. But read that there was no male DNA on the dress? ( Why he agreed to finally submit).

Or maybe if that's not true, with degradation, there might be a caveat addendum - not to totally trust results. Evidently he has results but not the addendum. He would glom on to that. This would be enough for these crazy followers.

peppertree

(23,344 posts)
16. Including the origins of the pandemic - which I strongly suspect...
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 10:40 AM
Apr 2023

We know he was hopping mad that China wouldn't pay his Tootsie $2 billion.

The CIA and Penatgon would've never gone along with such a a hare-brained scheme - but:

We know he used mercenaries - the failed Operation Gideon in Venezuela (basically, a mini Bay of Pigs) proved that.

Sounds crazy, I know - but if a Democrat had been in office, this is pretty much how Repugs would posit the pandemic origins controversy.

I ga'ontee.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
17. What is being concluded is that YES, some people are beyond the long arm of the law.
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 10:40 AM
Apr 2023

The more crimes committed, the harder it is for the Law to take grasp of the felon.

Maybe it’s the other way around?

Isn’t that what will be on trial? And it’s about time!

The verdict on all that is still to be determined.

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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
53. Makes total sense! Would LOVE to know what's going on
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 01:53 PM
Apr 2023

on the inside of each investigation.

Reminds me, did anything ever happen with all the inauguration fraud? Emolument abuse? One of the numerous balls he threw up in the air to create chaos and inaction?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
55. Well I missed this from May 2022 - NPR
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 03:34 PM
Apr 2023

WASHINGTON — Former President Donald Trump's businesses and inaugural committee have reached a deal to pay Washington, D.C., $750,000 to resolve a lawsuit that alleged the committee overpaid for events at his hotel and enriched the former president's family in the process, according to the District of Columbia's attorney general.

Johonny

(26,183 posts)
24. It's interesting the number of people whose lives he touched
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 11:21 AM
Apr 2023

that went down for his crimes while Trump has been essentially Teflon. The failure of the American legal system to be able to tackle white collar crime is a huge reason why America is in the state it is in.

panfluteman

(2,193 posts)
27. You're Spot On with Your Diagnosis, Doc!
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 11:25 AM
Apr 2023

Trump's 2016 electoral campaign, followed by his four year presidency, was a long series of unbelievable, jaw-dropping moments. Amazing! The guy seems to be totally incapable of telling the truth, or of doing anything in a legal, correct manner - even when to do so would be to his advantage, as you said. Heck - if it were possible to breathe deceitfully or dishonestly, he'd be doing that as well! Or, as a good friend of mine put it, whenever you think that Trump couldn't sink any lower - he does.

I firmly believe that one of Trump's key strategies was to shower law enforcement and prosecutors with such an overwhelming barrage of crimes that they wouldn't know where to start - that, and weaponizing the justice system and running out the clock.

Response to live love laugh (Reply #30)

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
34. I just hope the DoJ and others investigating Trump don't let themselves get caught...
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 12:24 PM
Apr 2023

...in a never-ending chase of every law he's broken. Charge him for what you already know he's done wrong, and get on with it. Trump can always stand trial again after being found guilty of something else.

Takket

(23,715 posts)
35. Smith needs to be reigned in
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 12:37 PM
Apr 2023

We have more than enough to send him to prison until he dies. we don't need to convict him of 100 crimes and get a 1000 year sentence. He'll be dead in 10 years if he's lucky to even live that long. Get the show on the road.

Orrex

(67,112 posts)
39. The most important thing is that no one question Garland's timeline
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 01:05 PM
Apr 2023

If Trump oozes back into office and succeeds in destroying the nation one]ce and for all, well, that’s a small price to pay to maintain the obvious lie that we are all equal under the law.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
42. Regardless of how hideous and obvious, it appears that
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 01:10 PM
Apr 2023

many believe what he told them, all fake, all vendetta because they hate me. This is a fact.

How do you think we could chip away at that? These people don't trust ANY source anymore . Definitely not news outlets, nor the government, nor established health organizations, nor prestigious universities.

On edit: nor the legal system

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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
52. So true CM
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 01:46 PM
Apr 2023

But I have a close family member who doesn't seem to hate... But just truly believes everything cooked up by someone. Total lack of trust in any institution. Maybe this is a completely different issue?

KentuckyWoman

(7,401 posts)
49. He won't see jail.
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 01:32 PM
Apr 2023

He has decades of crime under his belt. The guy has been in good with international criminals a long time. Running for office gives him a lot of protection against prosecution. He will end up with fines that won't hurt him much instead of jail.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
58. Exactly. Can't they add on more crimes while he's in prison?
Sun Apr 30, 2023, 11:57 AM
Apr 2023

Or house arrest or however they plan to do it? But get him on the big stuff now. He's running for president ffs.

Republican senators really need to be held accountable for their failure to convict last time.

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