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riversedge

(80,744 posts)
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 04:50 PM Apr 2023

Florida Senate passes bill allowing medical professionals to refuse care if it violates beliefs

The so called professionals should not be allowed to work in public health clinics or hospitals




Florida Senate passes bill allowing medical professionals to refuse care if it violates beliefs
https://news.yahoo.com/florida-senate-passes-bill-allowing-213251665.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw&tsrc=twtr



Jake Stofan Fri, April 28, 2023 at 4:32 PM CDT·3 min read


Florida doctors and insurers could soon opt-out of performing or paying for medical services if they believe it violates their religious, ethical or moral beliefs.

The bill ensures medical professionals and insurers will be held harmless both professionally and legally if they opt-out from participating in or paying for a health care service due to their belief it violates their religious, moral or ethical conscience.



“This bill screams, reeks of discrimination,” State Senator Tracie Davis (D-Jacksonville) said while debating the bill on the Senate floor Friday......................

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Florida Senate passes bill allowing medical professionals to refuse care if it violates beliefs (Original Post) riversedge Apr 2023 OP
Insurers??? intrepidity Apr 2023 #1
They probably wrote the bill. n/t Mr.Bill Apr 2023 #17
lol ikr.. smh at the POS FL legislators Cha Apr 2023 #19
Tell me again why people vote Republican?? NoMoreRepugs Apr 2023 #2
Brainwashed until they let fux Cha Apr 2023 #20
Once we enter the sanctity of belief for everything, society will come to a halt bucolic_frolic Apr 2023 #3
This is evil Matthew28 Apr 2023 #4
So force someone to do something against their beliefs? Throck Apr 2023 #5
Ever read this? Every physician has. Ferrets are Cool Apr 2023 #12
Desegregation was against their beliefs bucolic_frolic Apr 2023 #22
What? You're transgender even with money? icymist Apr 2023 #6
FUCK RELIGION!!!!!!!! Ferrets are Cool Apr 2023 #7
An insurance company has a 'conscience'? 70sEraVet Apr 2023 #8
"Companies ARE people". !! Mitt Romney said that, so it must be true. madinmaryland Apr 2023 #18
And WHERE in the Constitution is the basis for this ? Haggis 4 Breakfast Apr 2023 #9
Florida is now a VERY ugly place *for all types of people.* Any feeling we still have the RKP5637 Apr 2023 #10
Florida protects bigots again sakabatou Apr 2023 #11
Yup, the bad guys win again. Initech Apr 2023 #14
Yeah, "Home of The Bigots." If a Bigot, come to Florida, we welcome you. RKP5637 Apr 2023 #15
They are taking this country so damn backwards it's scary. Initech Apr 2023 #13
Making America "Great" again Docreed2003 Apr 2023 #16
As a patient, Could I refuse to pay for medical aid that violates my religion? RainCaster Apr 2023 #21
Need some federal incentives here! dickthegrouch Apr 2023 #23
those "students for life" folks are against birth control pills for EVERYTHING... BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 2023 #24
Can Protestants/Catholics refuse to treat the other? keithbvadu2 Apr 2023 #25

bucolic_frolic

(55,069 posts)
3. Once we enter the sanctity of belief for everything, society will come to a halt
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 04:57 PM
Apr 2023

I can believe anything and justify it because I believe it.

There was an episode of the old sitcom "Family Affair" with Brian Keith and Sebastion Cabot. The kids were trying to have everything their way, and the dad (Keith) had to convince them "we can't live in the land of do as you please".

That's where we're at now.

Matthew28

(1,859 posts)
4. This is evil
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 05:00 PM
Apr 2023

This is the kind of crap that this country fought against in the middle east for decades on end. I can't believe it is taking over entire states in our own country.

Throck

(2,520 posts)
5. So force someone to do something against their beliefs?
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 05:03 PM
Apr 2023

Would that compromise quality control?

Ferrets are Cool

(22,947 posts)
12. Ever read this? Every physician has.
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 05:09 PM
Apr 2023

I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:

I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not", nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life and save life wherever possible within reason; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.

bucolic_frolic

(55,069 posts)
22. Desegregation was against their beliefs
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 06:03 PM
Apr 2023

and likely still is. Beliefs will rule everything if this is allowed to stand.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
6. What? You're transgender even with money?
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 05:04 PM
Apr 2023

Then die.

What? You're poor with no money?
Then die.

What? You're an immigrant even with money?
Then die.

I am so sick of these hypocrites with their 'deeply held religious beliefs' as a back door to bigoted and racial discrimination.



70sEraVet

(5,465 posts)
8. An insurance company has a 'conscience'?
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 05:07 PM
Apr 2023

Something stinks in Panama City.

The bill sponsor pointed out that nothing in the legislation allows for discrimination based on the patient themselves.

“Rather, it specifically focuses on what procedure the doctor or nurse is asked to perform,” State Senator Jay Trumbull (R-Panama City) said.

(same article)

Haggis 4 Breakfast

(1,505 posts)
9. And WHERE in the Constitution is the basis for this ?
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 05:08 PM
Apr 2023

GOP maggots are destroying Florida, one step at a time, turning it into a Fascist paradise.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
10. Florida is now a VERY ugly place *for all types of people.* Any feeling we still have the
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 05:08 PM
Apr 2023

old Florida, it is not. Florida sucks! We're getting out of this place asap. There are now endless negatives. What a shame, I used to love it here. It is not going to change because we have almost all republicans top to bottom in politics. Plus a major influx of MAGA people that love this shit. For the LGBT people and immigrants and People of Color there have been significant travel advisories. Do not visit Florida and do not even vacation in Florida, and do not relocate to Florida and for some get out asap. What a shit show Florida has become. People with an accents have been advised to be careful, it might provoke an incident.




RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
15. Yeah, "Home of The Bigots." If a Bigot, come to Florida, we welcome you.
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 05:17 PM
Apr 2023

Anyone else, get the hell out. We are purifying the state. There is more truth to this than one might think.

Initech

(108,700 posts)
13. They are taking this country so damn backwards it's scary.
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 05:13 PM
Apr 2023

Fuck the Fox News MAGA GQP Fundamentalist Taliban!

Docreed2003

(18,714 posts)
16. Making America "Great" again
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 05:17 PM
Apr 2023

You know, like back in the not too distant past where there were "separate but equal" hospitals. This makes me sick

RainCaster

(13,688 posts)
21. As a patient, Could I refuse to pay for medical aid that violates my religion?
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 05:43 PM
Apr 2023

If my doctor can refuse to give me care, I should be able to refuse to pay. For any reason.

dickthegrouch

(4,507 posts)
23. Need some federal incentives here!
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 06:10 PM
Apr 2023

Any hospital, medical organization, doctors office, insurance company, receiving even a single dollar of federal funding, or payment for services rendered, or any grants or federal tax relief or any combination thereof must serve all patients equally. Failure to do so triggers forfeiture of all federal money received in that fiscal year without other recourse against any patient.

Doctors with the propensity for violating their sacred Hippocratic Oath may be fired summarily without appeal or recourse for endangering the institution’s federal funding.

I’m sure others can improve on this. But let’s get it done.

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(14,180 posts)
24. those "students for life" folks are against birth control pills for EVERYTHING...
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 06:22 PM
Apr 2023

not just for use as BC, which they consider to be abortion because it prevents implant of fertlized egg. but for medical conditions also... so a doctor who has the same beliefs would not prescribe BC for for endometriosis or other conditions helped by BC.

Slippery slope.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
25. Can Protestants/Catholics refuse to treat the other?
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 08:13 PM
Apr 2023

Can Protestants/Catholics refuse to treat the other?

Many P/C religionists believer the other is not a real Christian.

They both can refuse to treat Jews?

Billy/Franklin Graham both believed that Catholics and Mormons are not Christians.

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