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NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 06:13 PM Apr 2023

Remember that Ohio church a week ago that was firebombed over a drag show?

There is an angle of the story that most media outlets strangely ignored completely.

Headline: "Ohio Church Hosting Drag Event Firebombed, Resists Police Pressure"

Read those last three words again.

From this source: https://medium.com/prismnpen/ohio-church-hosting-drag-event-firebombed-resists-police-pressure-ed1dc3915fb9

In response to the initial threats of violence and protest from Proud Boys, et all,

"To write that local law enforcement reacted poorly is to badly understate what happened next. Instead of rallying to protect the restaurant and the church — to protect and serve their community— police officials complained that protection would be too costly, claimed they wanted no part in “controversy,” and advised the church (in what reads like an order) to shut the events down."

The cops were doing the terrorist's job for them.

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Remember that Ohio church a week ago that was firebombed over a drag show? (Original Post) NullTuples Apr 2023 OP
All cut from the same piece of cloth! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2023 #1
Reasonable suspicion krkaufman Apr 2023 #22
Sadly, this is what we're dealing with. Joinfortmill Apr 2023 #2
+1 2naSalit Apr 2023 #3
good catch.. yikes BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 2023 #4
"Some of those that work forces, are the same the burn crosses" Docreed2003 Apr 2023 #5
+1 ms liberty Apr 2023 #8
+2 orangecrush Apr 2023 #15
You said it well. Delphinus Apr 2023 #6
Just like the German firefighters that let the synagogues burn on Kristalnacht. TheRealNorth Apr 2023 #7
Chillingly analogous. SunSeeker Apr 2023 #10
I'd say sue the police, but who knows what a Trump judge would do. SunSeeker Apr 2023 #9
Well, that's damn disturbing. n/t Evolve Dammit Apr 2023 #11
"...quelle surprise..." /S littlemissmartypants Apr 2023 #12
In some cases, they are the terroists. paleotn Apr 2023 #13
Some of those proud boys might also have badges IronLionZion Apr 2023 #14
No RocRizzo55 Apr 2023 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author franz6257 Apr 2023 #16
That didn't happen until the NEXT EVENT right AFTER the FBI arrested a suspect BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #18
Thank you. NullTuples Apr 2023 #23
You're welcome BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #24
Zombies!!!! RandiFan1290 Apr 2023 #19
... BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #20
Can't wait to see what will be posted next in 2041 grantcart Apr 2023 #21
They thought it would "cost too much". GoodRaisin Apr 2023 #25
Well, Sort Of Firebombed ProfessorGAC Apr 2023 #26

paleotn

(22,669 posts)
13. In some cases, they are the terroists.
Sat Apr 29, 2023, 09:05 PM
Apr 2023

The pay is crap but you do get to shoot or beat the shit out of people once in a while. Imagine the kind of assholes that attracts.

Response to NullTuples (Original post)

BumRushDaShow

(172,111 posts)
18. That didn't happen until the NEXT EVENT right AFTER the FBI arrested a suspect
Sun Apr 30, 2023, 06:37 AM
Apr 2023
James Finn
Apr 4


Ohio Church Hosting Drag Event Firebombed, Resists Police Pressure

(snip)

Then last Friday, the FBI arrested a Nazi
According to CNN, “Aimenn D. Penny, 20, of Alliance, Ohio, has been charged in the US District Court in Cleveland with one count of malicious use of explosive materials and one count of possessing a destructive device, according to a criminal complaint.”

(snip)

Then something truly special and cool happened
According to Cleveland.com, the Community Church of Chesterland held its sold-out drag-queen story hour as scheduled, and only one lonely protester showed up. The photo (which I can’t show you for copyright reasons) is almost hilarious. One lone person dressed all in black, wearing a black facemask, sits on the side of the road near the church looking lonely and dejected. They probably should have gone inside for a little radical acceptance and love.

A larger protest did take place at the Element 41 restaurant earlier in the day, but news sources report that protesters were mostly outsiders, members of the white-supremacist group Patriot Front. Their calls for support from the local community fell mostly on deaf ears. Or maybe locals, some of them people I grew up with, came to their senses? I mean, seriously, Nazis? White supremacists? Molotov cocktails? Arson targeting a church? Are those really Ohio Christian values? Evidently, lots of people found those values shocking and unacceptable.

Meanwhile, the Chesterland church seem to be practicing their values of forgiveness. It seems the police decided to protect and serve after all, and church leaders are heaping them with praise:

(snip)

https://medium.com/prismnpen/ohio-church-hosting-drag-event-firebombed-resists-police-pressure-ed1dc3915fb9


Note that the blogger links to a CNN article originally published April 1st (the bombing was MARCH 25, the week BEFORE) - https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/01/us/pro-nazi-group-molotov-cocktail-ohio-church-drag-show/index.html but has since been updated weeks later, and is now showing a date of "April 25".

The police quotes directly AFTER the bombing are there and I expect the blow-back was fierce and they did diddly squat until the feds came in and took over. NOW they suddenly found time and money to protect people who live in their community.

I.e., the event where the police finally DID SOMETHING was the one scheduled a week later -

Only one protestor shows up for drag story hour at Community Church of Chesterland

Updated: Apr. 01, 2023, 6:46 p.m. | Published: Apr. 01, 2023, 6:34 p.m.

CHESTERLAND, Ohio – The much-anticipated protests over drag events in Chardon and Chesterland on Saturday ended without incident. Only one protester showed up for the third event, a drag story hour at a local church. Dressed in black, the masked protester sat streetside and did nothing.

The day’s activities also included two drag brunches. Only a small group of protestors that included members of the Patriot Front organization arrived on Chardon Square Saturday morning for the start of a drag brunch at Element 41 restaurant, but beyond chants and shouts there were no violent confrontations.

About an hour before the second drag brunch ended, two SWAT team members came down from the third-floor rooftop over Element 41 in Chardon and told a room of reporters that a bomb threat had been called in to the restaurant. Observers left and reporters moved to a safe distance.

An organizer of the event said later that the bomb threat was actually called in to an unidentified radio station from an unidentified international phone number and was deemed not credible. Also, attendees had been subjected to metal detection and the restaurant was swept by explosive-detecting dogs.

(snip)

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/04/only-one-protestor-shows-up-for-drag-story-hour-at-community-church-of-chesterland.html


Here is DOJ's press release about the arrest (note the date) -

Department of Justice

Office of Public Affairs

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Friday, March 31, 2023


Man Charged with Arson and Possession of a Destructive Device

An Ohio man was arrested this morning and charged with one count of malicious use of explosive materials and one count of possessing a destructive device.

According to court documents, on March 25, Aimenn D. Penny, 20, of Alliance, used Molotov cocktails against the Community Church of Chesterland (CCC), in Chesterland, Ohio, in an attempt to burn the church to the ground.

“As alleged in the charging documents, the defendant used an explosive device to cause harm to a church he found objectionable,” said Assistant Attorney General Matthew G. Olsen of the Justice Department’s National Security Division. “It is the solemn duty of the Department of Justice to safeguard the right of all Americans to free expression, and I commend the work of law enforcement in this matter.”

“Violence and destruction are never an acceptable way to express a disagreement with a particular viewpoint,” said First Assistant U.S. Attorney Michelle M. Baeppler for the Northern District of Ohio. “While, as Americans, we enjoy the right to disagree, doing so peacefully is the only appropriate option. The United States Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of Ohio remains committed to protecting the rights of all citizens to express their viewpoints peacefully.”

“The FBI Cleveland Joint Terrorism Task Force worked alongside the Chester Township Police Department in the matter surrounding a Molotov cocktail used against the Community Church of Chesterland on March 25. The FBI leveraged its task force and its specialized resources to identify, locate and subsequently arrest the subject earlier today,” said Special Agent in Charge Gregory Nelsen of the FBI Cleveland Field Office. “We thank the collaborative work and strong partnership of the Chester Township Police and Lake and Geauga County local authorities who assisted.”

If convicted, Penny faces a mandatory minimum of five years and up to 20 years in prison for the malicious use of explosive materials charge and up to 10 years in prison for the possession of a destructive device charge.

The FBI Cleveland Field Office is investigating the case.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Brian Deckert for the Northern District of Ohio and Trial Attorneys Jacob Warren and Justin Sher of the National Security Division’s Counterterrorism Section are prosecuting the case.

A complaint is merely an allegation. All defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.
_____________________________________________________________________

Attachment(s):
Download Penny Complaint

Topic(s):
Domestic Terrorism
Violent Crime

Component(s):
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
National Security Division (NSD)
USAO - Ohio, Northern

Press Release Number:
23-357

Updated March 31, 2023


and the complaint, which includes pics of the damage and the suspect - https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1577496/download (PDF)

BumRushDaShow

(172,111 posts)
24. You're welcome
Sun Apr 30, 2023, 04:31 PM
Apr 2023

The narrative in the article was a bit rambling but I think the point of it was to show how the cops did nothing to investigate a crime and protect a facility and then finally did something AFTER the feds came in.

ProfessorGAC

(77,237 posts)
26. Well, Sort Of Firebombed
Sun Apr 30, 2023, 04:45 PM
Apr 2023

The perpetrator was such an idiot he couldn't make a functioning molotov cocktail when the whole point of the weapon was that anybody with a functioning brain could make one.
Pretty clear conclusion can be drawn about this moronic terrorist.

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