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grumpyduck

(6,270 posts)
Mon May 1, 2023, 07:08 PM May 2023

Weird thought this morning about Putin.

Ok, kids, this isn't about a conspiracy, but it's crazy anyway, so put on your tinfoil hats.

Putin was KGB for many years, which means he was devious as hell in addition to being an asshole. And now he's the president of Russia. He has kept this war going for over a year in spite of tremendous losses, and now even Prigozhin is pissed off at him because of his own losses. Putin has replaced a number of generals and other senior officers, and a bunch have been killed in combat. The Russians have recruited from prisons, and now, IIRC, they're talking a general draft.

So, thinking back to the "cleansings" that Lenin and Stalin did in the country, I said to myself, what if that's what Putin is doing, sending people out to get killed by others so "it doesn't look" like he's the one doing it? According to reports, training is almost nonexistent, supplies are awful, ammo is either depleted or being withheld, and front-line soldiers are shot if they try to retreat.

I know it doesn't make sense (and I know what I'm setting myself up for ), but in this day and age so many things don't.

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Weird thought this morning about Putin. (Original Post) grumpyduck May 2023 OP
The problem with your logic is that he openly cleanses his enemies with poison or Gaugamela May 2023 #1
Yeah, I know. It doesn't make much sense. nt grumpyduck May 2023 #2
Kind of does and doesn't. 2naSalit May 2023 #3
The problem is that he's depleting his military of both people and supplies Buckeyeblue May 2023 #4
Additionally Russia population is falling drastically. scarletlib May 2023 #5
Any draft in any country targets those deemed expendable. WhiskeyGrinder May 2023 #6
Whatever the case Mysterian May 2023 #7

Gaugamela

(2,496 posts)
1. The problem with your logic is that he openly cleanses his enemies with poison or
Mon May 1, 2023, 07:22 PM
May 2023

defenestration. And most of the recruits in his war are just random Russians, many of whom probably supported him before he sent them off to die. And he’s paid a huge price for this cleansing by losing much of his oil and gas revenue. And now the western alliance wants to hang him for war crimes. If he stuck to poison and windows the rest of the world would look away and continue to do business.

2naSalit

(86,832 posts)
3. Kind of does and doesn't.
Mon May 1, 2023, 10:52 PM
May 2023

You could be on to something regarding a sort of purge thing. A lot of the "recruits" came from the hinter regions, ethnic groups that are a variety of peoples. They are questioning the rationale.

The convicts that were recruited are at the end of their contracts, many of them, are returning home and causing problems there. And telling the truth about the war.

It's kind of fluid but looking worse for pootin by the day so maybe there is something to his maniacal drive to send so many to their deaths, there's no rationale that is acceptable for this.

Buckeyeblue

(5,502 posts)
4. The problem is that he's depleting his military of both people and supplies
Tue May 2, 2023, 07:09 AM
May 2023

The biggest surprise in the Ukraine war is how bad the Russian military has turned out to be. If Putin wasn't sitting on a pile of nukes (that may or may not be functional) I think NATO would have quickly ended this war. But the nukes are the great unknown.

But what we do know is that Russian's military sucks.

scarletlib

(3,418 posts)
5. Additionally Russia population is falling drastically.
Tue May 2, 2023, 07:26 AM
May 2023

Killling off a generation of young men is not going to help.

Mysterian

(4,597 posts)
7. Whatever the case
Tue May 2, 2023, 08:53 AM
May 2023

it is up to the Russian people to find their courage and end the murderous Putin regime.

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