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WhiskeyGrinder

(27,371 posts)
Tue May 2, 2023, 02:59 PM May 2023

A Brutal Sex Trade Built for American Soldiers

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/02/world/asia/korea-us-comfort-women-sexual-slavery.html

The euphemism “comfort women” typically describes Korean and other Asian women forced into sexual slavery by the Japanese during World War II. But the sexual exploitation of another group of women continued in South Korea long after Japan’s colonial rule ended in 1945 — and it was facilitated by their own government.

There were “special comfort women units” for South Korean soldiers, and “comfort stations” for American-led U.N. troops during the Korean War. In the postwar years, many of these women worked in gijichon, or “camp towns,” built around American military bases.

Last September, 100 such women won a landmark victory when the South Korean Supreme Court ordered compensation for the sexual trauma they endured. It found the government guilty of “justifying and encouraging” prostitution in camp towns to help South Korea maintain its military alliance with the United States and earn American dollars.

(snip)

“The Americans need to know what some of their soldiers did to us,” said Park Geun-ae, who was sold to a pimp in 1975, when she was 16, and said she endured severe beatings and other abuse from G.I.s. “Our country held hands with the U.S. in an alliance and we knew that its soldiers were here to help us, but that didn’t mean that they could do whatever they wanted to us, did it?”
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A Brutal Sex Trade Built for American Soldiers (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder May 2023 OP
Another chapter in the woke American version of history. Baitball Blogger May 2023 #1
In Depth 2018 reporting. OhNo-Really May 2023 #8
This might explain why some of our conservative Baitball Blogger May 2023 #21
K&R Solly Mack May 2023 #2
Damn cruel 3auld6phart May 2023 #4
South Korean gov did this. rockfordfile May 2023 #3
"THEY" will want this scrubbed from history also. Ferrets are Cool May 2023 #5
Still going on... 2naSalit May 2023 #6
Bordel Militaire de Campagne - BMCs (mobile brothels) Bo Zarts May 2023 #7
I served in Korea from 1984 to 1985 jmowreader May 2023 #9
Duh! The US had military bases in the Caribbean during WW2 malaise May 2023 #10
As a personal side note, I had the great pleasure to see The Mighty Sparrow in concert Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #11
That must have been fabulous - seen him live a few times malaise May 2023 #12
I'm sorry to learn of David Rudder's early Parkinson's. I was unaware. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #13
Three great performers malaise May 2023 #14
A very fond memory. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #15
Lost a close family friend a few years ago malaise May 2023 #16
My friend was one of the most vibrant and active people I've ever known. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #17
Same with our family friend malaise May 2023 #18
I'm sorry. It is very hard to watch. I wish we both didn't know that. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #19
When i was in the military, this was one of the selling points... egduj May 2023 #20

Baitball Blogger

(52,900 posts)
1. Another chapter in the woke American version of history.
Tue May 2, 2023, 03:51 PM
May 2023

Which is to say, De Santis and his ilk will move to ban it from their approved list.

OhNo-Really

(3,996 posts)
8. In Depth 2018 reporting.
Tue May 2, 2023, 07:15 PM
May 2023

U.S. Marine Corps Sexual Violence on Okinawa

When it came to rape cases, the indictment rate was only 3% between 2007 and 2016 compared to a national average in Japan of 46.9% between 2005 and 2014. The newspaper attributed the low rate to a 1953 deal between the U.S. and Japan in which Japan apparently agreed only to take jurisdiction in cases “judged to be highly significant to Japan.”


https://apjjf.org/2018/03/Mitchell.html

Baitball Blogger

(52,900 posts)
21. This might explain why some of our conservative
Wed May 3, 2023, 10:00 AM
May 2023

Retired military sometimes act so privileged,
. They know that we looked the other way on terrible conduct overseas. And all this thank you for your service has gone to their head. They have lost their humility, It’s a big problem in Florida, where we have a large population of military retirees. When they serve on hoa boards, things can divert into good ole boy machinations very quickly.

3auld6phart

(1,683 posts)
4. Damn cruel
Tue May 2, 2023, 04:58 PM
May 2023

I would imagine other U.N. troops and
Officers took part in this form of slavery.
Bloody shame on all.most especially on
South Korean government for allowing
this to go on for so long. Probably stilll.
Just keeping a lid on it.

2naSalit

(104,831 posts)
6. Still going on...
Tue May 2, 2023, 05:18 PM
May 2023

In a little different form but still ongoing. I won't go into detail but the first hand accounts I heard cleared up any questions I might have had about the subject. And from young women alive today, they will tell you it is still happening.

Bo Zarts

(26,483 posts)
7. Bordel Militaire de Campagne - BMCs (mobile brothels)
Tue May 2, 2023, 05:29 PM
May 2023

The French Foreign Legion institutionalized prostitution in WW-1. That is well documented.

But the official use of BMCs continued, and during the Legion's disasterous garrison of Dien Bien Phu (Vietnam), or "Hell in a Very Small Place" as Bernard Fall called it, the army's BMC parked its caravans on the banks of the river that ran through the beseiged camp.

Bernard Fall and Jules Roy both wrote of the BMCs in their histories of the Battle of Dien Bien Phu. But there was no mention of the fate of the women when the gamble failed, and 10,000 French soldiers were marched (or carried) off to prisons on May 7, 1954, in what became North Vietnam.

jmowreader

(53,548 posts)
9. I served in Korea from 1984 to 1985
Tue May 2, 2023, 08:00 PM
May 2023

They didn't have these "special comfort women units" then, but the Army almost encouraged you to partake in the services of prostitutes.

On my very first day in Korea, I had flown into Kimpo Airport, which is now called "Gimpo." We got picked up on a bus driven by a Korean man who...well, drove like a Korean. (How do Koreans drive? You know those lines they paint on streets? Koreans view them as a mild suggestion.) After a thoroughly harrowing drive we arrived at the Turtle Farm on Camp Coiner and were first given a Threat Briefing. This had three parts.

The first part was to tell us about the North Koreans.
The second part was a VD briefing.
And then they sent all the women in the room to the snack bar and told us the prices for the various sexual services you could purchase outside of every US compound in the country. They even gave us directions to the red light district in Seoul. And of course, just as soon as the briefing ended four or five of our number went right there. Don't look at me, man; in the entire time I was there I didn't buy sex even once.

I could tell you some harrowing stories about my time as a company VD NCO, but perhaps this isn't the right time for that.

(What is a turtle farm? I CAN tell you about that. The Replacement Detachment in Seoul is, or at least WAS - the current turtle farm is in Pyongtaek - one office building and a barracks that we lived in while waiting to go to our units. The office building has two doors. One is marked "inprocessing" and the other "outprocessing." Each of the outlying units had its own building that you would go to if you were not going to be serving in Seoul, and some of them were...interesting; the one that belonged to 2nd Infantry Division had a sign next to the door that read "it is not our job to get you out of your assignment to the 2nd D; it is our job to process you into the 2nd D." Okay. So the main building, the one everyone had to go to and where we all learned how much it was going to cost you to buy sex, had two doors. One is marked Inprocessing and it's where you go when you first arrive. The other is marked Outprocessing and it's where you go on your way to Fort Hood. The two doors are less than 100 feet apart and it takes you a full year to go from one door to the other. The only thing on earth that moves that slowly is a turtle.)

malaise

(299,612 posts)
10. Duh! The US had military bases in the Caribbean during WW2
Tue May 2, 2023, 08:17 PM
May 2023

The Mighty Sparrow wrote this classic after the base was closed in Trinidad






 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
11. As a personal side note, I had the great pleasure to see The Mighty Sparrow in concert
Tue May 2, 2023, 08:27 PM
May 2023

at Royce Hall UCLA, back in 2002. He lived up to his stature as a calypso legend.

Also on the bill were the Trinidadian calypso greats Calypso Rose and David Rudder.

Quite an event.

malaise

(299,612 posts)
12. That must have been fabulous - seen him live a few times
Tue May 2, 2023, 08:36 PM
May 2023

He lives in New York but hasn’t ‘t been well. Calypso Rose also lives in New York. The great Rudder announced last weekend that he has early stage Parkinson’s. That hit me hard.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
13. I'm sorry to learn of David Rudder's early Parkinson's. I was unaware.
Tue May 2, 2023, 08:41 PM
May 2023

That was the only opportunity I had to see any of these great artists, but that concert was a real treat.



 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
15. A very fond memory.
Tue May 2, 2023, 08:55 PM
May 2023

Thanks for the link to the article on David Rudder. I'm losing a good friend to advancing Parkinson's at the moment. Such an invidious illness.

I wish him the best.

malaise

(299,612 posts)
16. Lost a close family friend a few years ago
Tue May 2, 2023, 09:25 PM
May 2023

It’s horrible for everyone but mostly for the person with it.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
17. My friend was one of the most vibrant and active people I've ever known.
Tue May 2, 2023, 09:35 PM
May 2023

Her large garden around her home was her passion. But she'd begun falling. I--being big, strong, and highly willing to help--would go over in the middle of the night to get her up off the floor, as her elderly husband was unable to do so.

The last time she fell she fractured her hip. Not bad enough to need a hip replacement, but bad enough that the family decided it was time to give up their gracious home and move into assisted living.

The only mixed "blessing" has been that she's been experiencing creeping dementia along with the Parkinson's, so losing her home/garden has been far less painful for her than it would have been otherwise.

A strange sort of "gift" to be sure. Life can be complicated.

malaise

(299,612 posts)
18. Same with our family friend
Tue May 2, 2023, 09:39 PM
May 2023

It was hard to watch given his vibrant life. He also had dementia - was in his late 80s.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
19. I'm sorry. It is very hard to watch. I wish we both didn't know that.
Tue May 2, 2023, 09:44 PM
May 2023

Hopefully David Rudder's illness progresses slowly.

egduj

(881 posts)
20. When i was in the military, this was one of the selling points...
Tue May 2, 2023, 09:48 PM
May 2023

to get the young men to volunteer for pacific-region overseas tours. Osan Air Field and Clark Air Field (Philippines) particularly.

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