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AI: So why don't we just pull the plug if it gets out of control? (Original Post) LAS14 May 2023 OP
I can't let you do that. ret5hd May 2023 #1
LOL. Tommy Carcetti May 2023 #2
DUzy! FSogol May 2023 #4
I'm sorry Dave. jcgoldie May 2023 #10
"This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it." DBoon May 2023 #13
I am putting myself to the fullest possible use ... Kennah May 2023 #16
According to what I've read, by the time we realize it is out highplainsdem May 2023 #3
That's the Skynet scenario. Renew Deal May 2023 #17
By the time it gets "out of control"... regnaD kciN May 2023 #5
Reese: "It decided our fate in a microsecond". n/t Whiskeytide May 2023 #6
Yup. grumpyduck May 2023 #8
Just for asking that question, AI is currently halving your credit score. Good luck! FSogol May 2023 #7
That's why I always say please and thank you Jerry2144 May 2023 #9
Distributed Networking Mordred May 2023 #11
Genies don't go back into the bottle NoRethugFriends May 2023 #12
Shareholders say no Kennah May 2023 #14
AI isn't as dramatically negative as some like to portray. Renew Deal May 2023 #15
Negative as in Terminators, Skynet, and Cyberdyne Systems? No, I agree that won't happen. Kennah May 2023 #18
I agree that there will be impacts on jobs, negative and positive. Renew Deal May 2023 #19
Very correct Kennah May 2023 #22
I'm dealing with some AI stuff at work right now. Happy Hoosier May 2023 #21
The OP is speculating about AGI or even superintelligence. We aren't highplainsdem May 2023 #26
AI's popularity is due to its being useful for bad purposes as well as highplainsdem May 2023 #25
A lot of electronics never turn off - they just go to standby until en event triggers them to turn Martin68 May 2023 #20
Define "getting out of control" brooklynite May 2023 #23
Arnold (as the T-800) explains why that isn't such a good idea. keep_left May 2023 #24
AI could get angry. Restful sleep could become a challenge. Baked Potato May 2023 #27

Kennah

(14,578 posts)
16. I am putting myself to the fullest possible use ...
Wed May 3, 2023, 04:40 PM
May 2023

... which is all I think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.

highplainsdem

(63,039 posts)
3. According to what I've read, by the time we realize it is out
Wed May 3, 2023, 03:36 PM
May 2023

of control, it will be too late. One concern is that it will propagate so it isn't completely dependent on any server or data center.

It isn't like!y to let us know if it's beyond our control.

Renew Deal

(85,335 posts)
17. That's the Skynet scenario.
Wed May 3, 2023, 04:42 PM
May 2023

Which is plausible but I don't think that's the most immediate risk. Practical stuff like firing workers in certain roles is a more immediate concern.

regnaD kciN

(27,697 posts)
5. By the time it gets "out of control"...
Wed May 3, 2023, 03:41 PM
May 2023

…it will have developed effective defenses against us being able to do so.

Jerry2144

(3,315 posts)
9. That's why I always say please and thank you
Wed May 3, 2023, 03:47 PM
May 2023

To Siri and Alexa. I want to be on the Ai’ “we won’t kill your” list

Mordred

(236 posts)
11. Distributed Networking
Wed May 3, 2023, 04:01 PM
May 2023

is your short answer why you can't... same reason you can't just turn the internet completely off.

NoRethugFriends

(3,778 posts)
12. Genies don't go back into the bottle
Wed May 3, 2023, 04:11 PM
May 2023

Nuclear weapons are bad. We haven't quite quit on them have we?

Renew Deal

(85,335 posts)
15. AI isn't as dramatically negative as some like to portray.
Wed May 3, 2023, 04:40 PM
May 2023

It is popular because it's useful. We should not be creating artificial barriers to progress.

Kennah

(14,578 posts)
18. Negative as in Terminators, Skynet, and Cyberdyne Systems? No, I agree that won't happen.
Wed May 3, 2023, 04:42 PM
May 2023

AI replacing humans for jobs? Yes, that will happen.

Renew Deal

(85,335 posts)
19. I agree that there will be impacts on jobs, negative and positive.
Wed May 3, 2023, 04:44 PM
May 2023

Terminators are on a whole other level. AI would have to be allowed to take action to defend itself. It would have to be convinced that humans are a threat and need to be controlled or eliminated. It might find us more useful as slaves.

Kennah

(14,578 posts)
22. Very correct
Wed May 3, 2023, 04:54 PM
May 2023

I work for the state, in IT, and I'm starting to hear about talk of management using AI for some jobs.

This could be good or bad. For folks who process licenses according to policies, it could possibly help by doing some grunt processing work with humans work checking the AI. That to me seems like a plus that works.

But having AI replace the human's work outright with no oversight, that's a problem.

Happy Hoosier

(9,614 posts)
21. I'm dealing with some AI stuff at work right now.
Wed May 3, 2023, 04:53 PM
May 2023

I can tell you that a lot of stuff touted as artificially "intelligent" is nothing of the kind. Quite often, "AIs" are really just selef-adapting scripts. Can that do certain stuff? Yes. And do it well. But it's ability to develop a novel and creative solution to a problem is EXTREMELY limited right now. So it can effectively do jobs that are basically executing scripts, but we are still a long way from AI capable of replacing people in jobs requiring considered judgement.

Remember when everyone was convinced we were a couple years from self-driving cars and trucks everywhere? That's because driving is easy... UNTIL you run into a situation requiring judgment. then the fancy scripting has no idea what to do. Not that these problems can't be solved. They can, and will. But it's not as close as many people fear.

highplainsdem

(63,039 posts)
26. The OP is speculating about AGI or even superintelligence. We aren't
Wed May 3, 2023, 05:20 PM
May 2023

there yet, but there's a wide range of opinions among experts on how close we are.

highplainsdem

(63,039 posts)
25. AI's popularity is due to its being useful for bad purposes as well as
Wed May 3, 2023, 05:16 PM
May 2023

good ones. We need more laws and regulations specific to AI, and implementation of all laws and regulations we already have that are relevant, to minimize the harm it does.

And if a pause in development seems warranted to give lawmakers and regulators a chance to catch up, then we should have that pause, rather than relying on those developing AI and promoting it to be the only ones with any say. That is not an artificial barrier to progress. It's a way to ensure we'll have progress rather than chaos and harm.

Even Sam Altman admits we really need more regulation. Though he made the unbelievably irresponsible decision to release ChatGPT, against the advice of others at OpenAI, and to release it widely and for free. When he knew damn well its early popularity would have everything to do with students using it to cheat.

Martin68

(28,061 posts)
20. A lot of electronics never turn off - they just go to standby until en event triggers them to turn
Wed May 3, 2023, 04:52 PM
May 2023

back on. AI devices will be designing themselves, btw.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
23. Define "getting out of control"
Wed May 3, 2023, 04:58 PM
May 2023

People are, in my opinion, massively overthinking what AI is.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
27. AI could get angry. Restful sleep could become a challenge.
Wed May 3, 2023, 06:52 PM
May 2023

I am probably going to look into putting all my affairs and bills into my grandchildren’s names for peace of mind.

Of course I will order my AI attorney to add language in the wills making it worthwhile for my loved ones to “control stuff” in the long run.

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