The Carlson Tucker Text message that Fox feared would become public

[Demovictory9]

Carlson’s Text That Alarmed Fox Leaders: ‘It’s Not How White Men Fight’
The discovery of the text message contributed to a chain of events that ultimately led to Tucker Carlson’s firing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/02/business/media/tucker-carlson-text-message-white-men.html

Tucker Carlson January 7, 2021 — 04:18:04 PM UTC
A couple of weeks ago, I was watching video of people fighting on the street in Washington. A group of Trump guys surrounded an Antifa kid and started pounding the living shit out of him. It was three against one, at least. Jumping a guy like that is dishonorable obviously. It’s not how white men fight. Yet suddenly I found myself rooting for the mob against the man, hoping they’d hit him harder, kill him. I really wanted them to hurt the kid. I could taste it. Then somewhere deep in my brain, an alarm went off: this isn’t good for me. I’m becoming something I don’t want to be. The Antifa creep is a human being. Much as I despise what he says and does, much as I’m sure I’d hate him personally if I knew him, I shouldn’t gloat over his suffering. I should be bothered by it. I should remember that somewhere somebody probably loves this kid, and would be crushed if he was killed. If I don’t care about those things, if I reduce people to their politics, how am I better than he is?

For years, Mr. Carlson espoused views on his show that amplified the ideology of white nationalism. But the text message revealed more about his views on racial superiority.

The text alarmed the Fox board, which saw the message a day before Fox was set to defend itself against Dominion Voting Systems before a jury. The board grew concerned that the message could become public at trial when Mr. Carlson was on the stand, creating a sensational and damaging moment that would raise broader questions about the company.

[Tickle]

1. wait, did he

Say that on TV? Good grief, what have we become?

[dchill]

3. He said it in a personal text message. Not on TV.

[Tickle]

4. That's still disgusting but

I am glad he didn't say it all over TV for God Sake!

[Spazito]

2. I can't see why this would be the catalyst for firing him...

He's said worse on air many times, imo, and there were no consequences. It makes no sense to me. I still think there is something much worse that has yet to come out that was the impetus for the firing.

[dchill]

6. No. What he said provided a deep, personal insight...

...into the craven, dangerous nature of his personality. This is a person who can never be interrogated on a witness stand as a representative of Fox News. So they fired him.

[Spazito]

10. The craven, dangerous nature of his personality has been on public display for years, imo...

live and on air. If this was the catalyst why did Fox not just settle and keep their top guy on the air instead of settling AND firing him when there was no court case to demand his testimony.

There is the Smartmatic case but this is in it's early stages and it will probably be years before it gets close to any jury, if at all, so I don't see that as being the impetus either.

[dchill]

11. I've never seen or heard him saying anything...

...that deeply disturbed in a personal way.

[Spazito]

12. There was a series of clips just played on Deadline White House...

clips from his show, that showed, in clear terms, his deeply disturbed mindset. It doesn't take a text to bring that to the fore, imo, it only adds to what is already there.

[NotVeryImportant]

26. In my observation that's all he's ever said.

Racist, degenerate, white supremacist crap like this.

It's no different than what he's been spewing every night.

[Martin68]

15. I don't think this is the main reason for the firing. Possibly one among a series of questionable

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private texts that worried management, but I think it was texts criticizing management that was a more important factor.

[Spazito]

17. It could definitely be the cumulation of his texts along with the upcoming shareholder...

court case that was the straw that broke the camel's back and Fox did a cost/benefit analysis on whether to keep him or not and it would cost them more than it would be of benefit.

I do think Fox is deliberately leaking the texts to put that as the catalyst instead of what I think still remains to be made public and the main reason he was fired. Call me suspicious and cynical, lol.

[Martin68]

18. Good point. I think that's a good theory. Being suspicious and cynical when it comes to FOX and

MAGAts is just being realistic.

[Spazito]

22. All in all, I am just very happy he is off the air...

no matter what the reason. He was a toxic influence on so many.

[PufPuf23]

23. Perhaps Carson (and others fired) were amputated by Fox in an attempt

to protect those higher in Fox and to limit civil (or criminal) legal liabilities?

[BComplex]

25. I don't thinks so, either. I'm calling TOTAL BULLSHIT on this whole line of "news"

Maybe that text was among his ugly texts, but this is just republicans being republicans. This goes on all day every day, with MTG saying all democrats are pedophiles and murderers and should be executed. This is NOTHING to republicans, and I KNOW this isn't what got Fucker Carlson fired.

[Kennah]

5. That Tucker guy is a real fart smeller

[dchill]

8. He's an Adolf in his own mind.

[TxVietVet]

7. The conservanazis are worried about their image.

Someone may call them thug assholes and offend other assholes in the world.

[Xoan]

9. That's what Fox would have you believe.

[cyclonefence]

13. And what in *hell* is "an Antifa kid?"

He said this in a text. Does he really believe that "Antifa" is an organization? I truly thought these guys saved that shit for the Jethroes.

Assuming he does believe in an entity called "Antifa," how could he tell this kid was one of them (us)? A secret code ring?

[maxsolomon]

19. It's shorthand for Black Bloc leftist. Antifa kids definitely exist.

Picture the kind of crusty Anarchist kid who might throw a Molotov cocktail at the Federal building in Portland.

That's my guess for where the video he's referencing was probably filmed. There literally were street battles between "Antifa kids" and Proud Boy/Patriot Prayer goons who'd come into town from Vancouver WA or similar places provoking fights.

[Iggo]

14. And tomorrow it'll be something else.

It’s a post-Dominion house-cleaning, they don’t like him, and this is as good a time as any to get rid of his ass.

[lindysalsagal]

16. Advertisers should run for the hills.

[MadameButterfly]

24. Fox get's paid more by cable subscribers than by advertisers

and we are all contributing whether we like it or not. The advertisers could all flee and Fox would survive.

[kentuck]

20. All that's missing is that maniacal laugh...

I mean, seriously, maniacal.

[onetexan]

21. and how white men fight is to front $787M in restitution

who has the last laugh?