American Life Expectancy Map - TIME

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on edit, should have included the URL, though the map online is not as bright as this one..

https://time.com/6270808/americas-life-expectancy-divide/

[speak easy]

1. I'll comment

go ahead and die MAGAFuckers, die yesterday

[piddyprints]

10. Not everyone

Living in those dark magenta areas are MAGAFuckers. But thanks for wishing us all dead.

[speak easy]

11. You identify as a MAGAt?

and skipped vaccines and masks for example? No matter how red a county may be, there will be ppl who have not drunk the koolaid.

[piddyprints]

15. My point exactly.

But you seem to be happy that certain areas of the country, particularly the MAGAt-infested ones have a low life expectancy.

It’s sort of reminiscent of the people who would like very much for the red states to secede and hang all us blue dots out to dry.

I won’t dignify your vax/mask comments with a reply. SMDH

[soldierant]

22. That really isn't the point.

While some factors in an area no doubt affect everyone, they don't all do it equally. If you live surrounded by MAGAs but aren't one yourself. you are probably making choices about your life and health which wold lead to a longer life expectancy for you than for MAGAts in the same area. I for one would certainly hope so.

[dsc]

34. Yeah but to the extent what you say is true, is true

the factors tend to affect the minorities living in those states more than the whites meaning it is actually harming non MAGA more than MAGA.

[soldierant]

39. Absolutely. And MAGA knows that.

But they don't know badly they themselves are getting hurt.

Which is why we need messaging that they can understand.

[treestar]

52. come on

they said MAGAnuts die, not all people in red states, not Democrats in red areas. Presumably those raise the age, while the more numerous MAGATS lower it.

[Mariana]

17. Since when does, "Die MAGAFuckers" mean "Die, piddyprints"?

Reading is FUNdamental.

[newdayneeded]

24. You don't die in those areas at 69 y/o

if you do the non MAGA things I'm sure you do. get vaccinated, live healthy, don't get into bar fights over who has the better trump flag, etc.

The poster is talking about the MAGAs in these MAGA areas, not you.

[former9thward]

49. What about high death rates in non-MAGA areas?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data-visualization/life-expectancy/index.html

This chart allows a look at counties and cities.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

2. That is fascinating.

I live in New Mexico, in one of the green counties, but we have lots of pink and dark red, or whatever you'd call the color they use.

[doc03]

3. Sort of like a map of Blue states VS Red states. nt

[jimfields33]

14. The southern states are very diverse contrary to what the average person thinks

[mjvpi]

18. Wow, in Montana, you can see the First People's reservations. Lack of......

Health care
Money for education
Jobs
Hope

At least they have enough guns.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

4. I'm curious,

when was that map made? Is it in this week's Time?

[question everything]

5. Yes. The one with the cover of EARTH AWARDS

Photo of Gloria Walton and Mark Ruffalo

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

7. I don't get Time magazine.

what is the date?

[question everything]

8. May 8/May 15 a doule feature, it seems

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

12. Thank you.

So that's a very current map, which is good.

[question everything]

19. I should have included the URL, I added it upon editing

[Maraya1969]

6. I think one of the reasons people in SW FL live long lives is as soon as you come up near

65 you are contacted by your family physicians and they send you for a battery of tests including blood tests, mammograms, colonoscopies etc. They actively start looking for problems because you are now covered by Medicare!

The stomach doctor noticed that my hemoglobin was low so I was set up for yet another upper GI scope and in 2 months, (?) I have to go back to see how the medicine worked since they found an ulcer. I know that is thorough and all but it just seems like a lot and I don't know how much of it is necessary.

What I mean is there are so many tests and this is retirement alley!

[yonder]

9. I'm curious about that outlier in NW Montana.

Looks like the Whitefish area. Seems strange.

Also NE and S Central Montana. Reservations?

[GusBob]

13. From west to east along the Northern border

Blackfeet Rez
Rocky Boy/ Fort Belknap Rezes
Fort Peck Rez
South Central is the Crow and Cheyenne Rez

Of my Native patients here on this small Rez, I’ve only 2 men over 80, and maybe 8 women. Not a lot of 70 year-olds either. I do have 2 ladies in their 90’s and one of my patients grandmother lived to 104!

There are deaths and funerals every week. Overdoses, car wrecks, suicides are the leading non medical causes. Diabetes related deaths hands down the leading medical cause

Edit you can see the Dakota Rezes on the map and the Menominee REz in Wisc

[yonder]

33. Thank you for clearing that up.

I suspected that was the case in other Northern areas but wasn't aware of a reservation in NW Montana.

[newdayneeded]

25. A reservation in Wisconsin too.

[Bonx]

16. It corresponds with the demographic data

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/vsrr023.pdf

[tinrobot]

20. Let's see... old people in red states tend to vote Republican

And they die 15-20 years before old people in blue states.

No wonder the GOP is pulling out the stops on election rigging - half their base is almost dead.

[former9thward]

51. That is not what the map or data says.

The CDC has a more accurate map.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data-visualization/life-expectancy/index.html

[OMGWTF]

21. Where the Rethuglicans rule, people die younger. Weird.

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23. I think that one factor is poverty and many black people who do not get adequate

medical treatments

[BlueCheeseAgain]

37. I think you're right about poverty.

On the other hand, the low life expectancy in the South isn't confined to the so-called Black Belt, and includes a lot of very white places as well (West Virginia and Appalachia). Hard to say for sure for me.

[area51]

26. Guaranteed,

this is at least a part of the problem.

[dawg]

27. This is pretty much a just map of poverty and ethnic enclaves.

There are lots of green counties in the Upper Midwest that were bright red on the electoral map.

[Sympthsical]

28. Yep, this is a trace of access to health care

Which is why, for example, you see lower zones in areas with Native reservations.

Poverty, racial disparities, etc. It all contributes.

[misanthrope]

46. Bingo

Pretty easy to figure out if you've been around for a few decades. And the older you get -- the more time you've sat in doctor's offices or been to hospitals -- the more evident it is.

[Sympthsical]

48. Mother-in-law just had a very minor heart attack

They kept her one night and ran tests. She's fine. They gave her medications. No surgeries or procedures.

Just got the bill today. $35k.

Sure.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

29. Looks like an overlay map of high poverty + long distance to medical facilities.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

30. People dunking on this politically when it's actually largely a race and extractive poverty map, but

OK!

[GoCubsGo]

42. Yup. Aspen doesn't have the highest expectancy because it's in a "blue" state.

It has it because it's full of filthy rich people, who can afford the best of everything, including food, healthcare, preventative healthcare... Meanwhile, in one of those low-expectancy areas, part of the Navajo reservation in Arizona just got electricity for the first time EVER earlier this year.

[maxsolomon]

31. A map of poverty in the US will look much the same.

The purple county on the Canadian Border in MT? Blackfoot Rez.

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36. Yes, predominantly in red states.

[maxsolomon]

38. Well, poor people in Red States aren't all Republicans.

Particularly in the south. Poverty cuts across political lines.

[Johnny2X2X]

32. Lack of

Red areas have a lack of health care, lack of fitness, lack of safety from crime, lack of education, lack of living wage, lack of child care, lack of a decent standard of living. All of that leads to early deaths.

[RobinA]

35. I'm Curious

as to what the deal is with Presidio, TX per the graph in the article. Extreme outlier for the good.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

41. Big Bend

Thus, a substantial percentage of the population are National Park Service employees. As in, great pay and benefits. So they not only have health insurance, but also are able to afford the co-pays and all the rest to stay healthy.

Plus the park staff are almost always quite physically active, which contributes to longevity.

[XanaDUer2]

40. My area is white nt

[David__77]

43. Poverty and racial discrimination have very real impacts.

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[NickB79]

44. Compare it to US obesity rates

The overlap is incredible.

[JI7]

45. This can be due to large black population in many red states

and the black people or other minorities not getting fair access to things like health care.

[WarGamer]

47. It's a poverty map...

Poor people live shorter lives... News at 11.

[keep_left]

50. There was a book about this a few years ago, and I think it got some attention here.

It's Dying of Whiteness, by Jonathan M. Metzl MD. It was first published in 2020.

The book of course does not explain everything about that map, but it does go a long way to illustrate what is going on in places like Appalachia and Florida, among many others.

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dying-of-whiteness-jonathan-m-metzl/1128997338