Still stuck on rape case DNA... Anyone else?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

For three years TFG refused to turn over DNA sample.. Then.....

"After refusing to provide a DNA sample, Trump’s lawyers switched tactics, saying they would provide one if Carroll’s lawyers turned over the full DNA report on the dress."

They say TFG has had the DNA report without addendum for a long time.

I know, all inadmissible now. Trial underway w/o DNA or reference to it. Just think there must be a clue in all this!

And why did prosecution so easily give up the DNA route? It's a sure thing? Or maybe not ( i.e. addendum to DNA report? Warning w/ caveats?.

Anyone else trying to figure this out?

I know, word has it that TFG will be found guilty since trump didn't show up and because the evidence bar is lower for a civil trial...

Don't care, just trying to understand it all.

[Bev54]

1. There is no prosecution, only two parties in a civil trial. They were not going to play

his games and were concerned that because the dress was not properly secured for chain of custody, they may throw it out anyway. I do hope she wins and gets it tested anyway.

[emulatorloo]

4. +++++

[Laura PourMeADrink]

5. It's been tested. There was a rumor that there was no male DNA

on it. Hence addendum request, just pure conjecture, said "blah blah blah, old sample only x% accurate? "

Get that dress not secured. Chain of custody.

You sound like you know infinitely more than I do!

PS. Sorry used prosecution word inaccurately

[TheBlackAdder]

16. So who would she have conspired with to get a spunk sample from TFG?

.

Chain or not, certain samples are harder to acquire than others. It's not like saliva on a glass.

Besides, didn't he already say she liked it, or something like that?

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[Bev54]

17. I am not sure what you are asking. I don't know of any conspiracy to get a

sample from tfg, nor do I think she has one.

[Liberal In Texas]

23. That's right, civil trial is plaintiff v. defense or respondent.

[MutantAndProud]

2. They might have sabotaged the evidence

Just guessing…

See the Murdaugh case with SLED in South Carolina relatively recently and their destructive analysis and handling of what they had.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. Yes, followed that case! Sabotage a court case and evidence?

His evil knows no bounds!

Totally plausible M & P !

[Silent Type]

6. I'm for justice, the jury will figure it out as well as a handful of people can.

I’m definitely interested in the verdict and what it means (assuming any rational conclusions can be drawn).

[Laura PourMeADrink]

8. In a normal world, would agree 100%. But in a world

where TFG is pushing against all laws and norms .. NO WAY

One thing for certain? He is 99.9% hiding something

[Silent Type]

9. 99.99999% sure of that.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

26. Let's go with 100% ... WTHN

[Mordred]

10. Stalling tactic

Trump's offer to provide a sample was made after his last motions to postpone the trial were denied. He refused to provide a DNA sample for 3 years. The late offer was made in an attempt to re-open discovery and expert analysis which would have forced a delay of the trial. The judge said Trump's offer was too late and the trial would proceed with both parties agreeing to not mention the dress during the trial.

[spooky3]

12. Thank you. Now it makes sense. Nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. Dressmust not have had any dna of quality then. Cuz

If I was her, and I knew dna was his I'd have my attys move heaven and earth, even begging for a delay, to get that evidence in.

Hmmm. Something is fishy

[yardwork]

18. Not necessarily.

There are lots of reasons why her team might have decided not to use it. No need to assume anything is fishy or odd.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

20. Understood. But I'm talking trump finally agreeing to

turn over being fishy to me.

[yardwork]

22. Just because his counsel said that doesn't mean they really would

He lies a lot. Makes promises, doesn't keep them.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

25. Good point. If you focus on delay, putting too many balls up in the

air ( his quote), it all makes sense. Picture trump saying to his atty... " Ok what have we got to push this down the road?". And Tacopena saying " Well, you could agree to give your DNA?".

And TFG saying " whaaaaa?"

And atty saying " No worries, it will delay it all and I will think of something that makes you come out smelling like a rose"

[okaawhatever]

27. My bet, it's so Trump & RW media can say "I offered DNA they didn't want it".

[Laura PourMeADrink]

29. But... How did they know they wouldn't agree? ( To accept

the DNA?) If I was a player, with no money in game, I would have delayed until he gave the DNA.

Gotta figure out, tho she's trying harder than most, to outsmart these MFs.

Someone will do it!!!! Maybe someone with unlimited resources?

[okaawhatever]

28. Even if Trump's DNA was a 100% match, due to chain of custody issues the jury may

have dismissed it.

I believe the reverse is also true. If Trump didn’t do it he should have begged his attorney to allow him to take the DNA test.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

30. True !!! So we can agree on a given .. he did it! Because like you said, an

An honest person would have simply given his DNA.

[Deuxcents]

11. So..did he ever get the dress? I don't get why he would.I think Miss Carroll never never gave it up

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. No but he had the DNA report. But hadn't been matched

With his DNA cuz he didn't give it. Not sure what a report like this includes.

Wonder if she can release it.

[shanti]

15. Wasn't the DNA

on the dress shown to be inconclusive? And it was decided not to add it as evidence in the trial?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

19. *supposedly her legal team said there were 4 peoples

DNA found on dress. At least one a male. But also *supposedly there are pages from DNA report missing. ( Per Tacopena). So he said trump would submit DNA if those pages were turned over. Court said too late to reopen discovery. So no mention of DNA

Who woulda thought DNA doesn't get washed out

*All per Daily Mail UK

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. Read a bit more. Carroll got the people she knew of

To provide DNA samples to match. Then told trump attys that there was an unidentified male's DNA on dress and asked for his DNA originally.

[Kingofalldems]

24. Not fooled one bit.