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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhich legislators organized the Jan 6 mob??? Time to name names.
Hawley? Gosar? Jordan? Boebert? Gaetz? Greene? Stefanick? Perry?
I'm not happy that the house and senate are protecting the insiders.
markie
(24,017 posts)Brooks!!
Ohio Joe
(21,898 posts)I believe that part was organized by Bannon and Stone through Meadows. I expect them to be next up for DOJ.
Edit to add - I think the names you have will be seen when the fake elector portion of the plot comes up.
wiggs
(8,812 posts)not been parts of trials, public depositions, public discussions of investigations, and even Jan6 Cte work. Even outside the Jan6 official reporting, those on the Committee haven't been asking questions about it publicly. I can't recall a reporter asking DOJ about those topics either.
Elephant in the room. Remember during the Proud Boys trial leaders were told by the 'campaign' not to wear their identifying colors or garb. Nothing further in the trial to get to the bottom of that.
I'd like to think TPTB aren't merely protecting government image and reputation...but rather I'd prefer that there's a media blackout against discussion that could undermine an ongoing investigation and potential indictment of earthshaking importance.
gab13by13
(32,323 posts)Meadows kept Trump's hands clean. They also used burner phones with encryption.
Meadows is on a par with Mike Pence as far as the link to Trump.
Joinfortmill
(21,168 posts)wiggs
(8,812 posts)....probably not all that exist, but re-posted within minutes of the verdict today. I'm guessing all these folks have already been contacted by DOJ or SC. If not already...their time in the barrel may come, to quote one of the traitors himself.
Link to tweet
hippywife
(22,777 posts)List of both Senate and House members:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition_Caucus#Members_of_Congress_described_by_the_term
JudyM
(29,785 posts)IIRC NYT listed all of them at one point, full page with photos. But I don't have a subscription.
JudyM
(29,785 posts)hippywife
(22,777 posts)but, just like with the former Oaf of Office, I'm not getting my hopes up until it happens. Still stinging from all the media hype/predictions that never happened over the Mueller report. Not letting that happen again.
ShazzieB
(22,590 posts)This is the first time I've seen the term "Sedition Caucus" used, and I had no idea this Wikipedia article existed.
I've never been sure which members of Congress were involved in trying to block the certification, except for a few obvious ones. This is a big help!
UTUSN
(77,795 posts)hippywife
(22,777 posts)republianmushroom
(22,326 posts)orthoclad
(4,728 posts)How the hell did criminals like Gaetz take power?
orangecrush
(30,261 posts)erronis
(23,882 posts)The weakest links. And probably the weakest on the evolutionary chain.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)swong19104
(625 posts)is probably always out of the loop. No one takes him seriously.
Gosar is too stupid and too old to participate.
Jordan: good bet.
Boebert? New and just a plain grifter with no real zealotry. Might have been a good foot soldier.
Gaetz? Oh yeah. He needed his get out of jail card and TFG would be the one who could offer it to him.
MTG: enough zealotry to be a lieutenant-level leader.
Stefanik: if she did, she's smart enough to hide behind 7 proxies.
Perry: good candidate for being among the organizers.
lindysalsagal
(22,915 posts)swong19104
(625 posts)There's no basis for my claims other than the circumstantial evidence available to all, and my interpretations thereof.
Joinfortmill
(21,168 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)that roughly half of all those in congress are Democrats, right?
Funny how people disagree on what's right and wrong.
Doing right ALWAYS comes with costs, often very large to HUGE costs, always including ability to do other things, sometimes even including sacrifices of majorities in upcoming elections. This time, that last could mean the last free election.
Funny how that works in government by the people. Investigating Nixon caused the people to reelect him and punish those doing right in a 49-state sweep. We lost 63 seats (!) after passing the ACA, which was actually badly needed and wanted by most Americans and wasn't half as explosive as this.
On this enormously emotional and explosive topic, even with compelling proof, the cost of succeeding in prosecuting Republican members of congress could very possibly include losing the presidency, congress and state governments to Republican control in upcoming elections.
You're frustrated? You don't even have to face these traitors and behave professionally at work like their colleagues do, knowing that if they succeed they may "disappear" you or have you publicly executed for treason. But, it's "time" for them to name names, whether they have compelling proof to convict anyway.
Btw, are you willing to pay with your own democratic rights and freedoms for acting against them without ability to pull victory out of the fire? Knowing that if a new authoritarian government took over, they'd quickly both pardon and reward as heroes everyone we managed to convict -- and again arrest those who acted against them? These are the "hang Pence" and "lock her up" people.
Of course, a simpler, far more likely way to lose our rights and freedoms is just to continue on as before, failing to commit to saving them. 80M didn't vote in 2016, 60M in 2020, and almost all claim both parties are corrupt and they have no one to vote for.
KPN
(17,377 posts)ShazzieB
(22,590 posts)I may be the only one, but maybe not?
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KPN
(17,377 posts)The Proud Boys et.al. are just lackeys. Their leaders, manipulators are the real responsible parties. They need to be held accountable before our democracy can be effectively secured for another 50-80 years or so. They always come back. They being the greedy rich who see themselves as the worthy aristocrats.
Botany
(77,324 posts)
The congressional committee investigating the U.S. Capitol insurrection is asking a House Republican for more information about a tour of the building the panel says he led the day before the deadly attack.
The committees letter to Georgia Rep. Barry Loudermilk on Thursday is the latest attempt by House investigators to obtain cooperation from GOP lawmakers in the probe of the Jan. 6, 2021 attack, when supporters of then-President Donald Trump violently broke into the Capitol and interrupted the certification of President Joe Bidens victory.
Based on our review of evidence in the Select Committees possession, we believe you have information regarding a tour you led through parts of the Capitol complex on January 5, 2021, Reps Bennie Thompson and Liz Cheney, the chairman and vice-chairwoman of the committee, wrote Loudermilk.
Public reporting and witness accounts indicate some individuals and groups engaged in efforts to gather information about the layout of the U.S. Capitol, as well as the House and Senate office buildings in advance of the insurrection, they wrote.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)Also, no Select Committee knocking about, scaring Republicans into actually not continually telling incredible lies. It's like a summer calendar of events planned for a vacation tour of Armageddon the day before the apocalypse. Nobody wants to do that on vacation. Hell, I'd rather go to Epcot and watch the mold grow.....with my Second wife's mother in tow, no less. I'm seriously bummed, here.
lindysalsagal
(22,915 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Can I also observe that by blaming the Senate youre blaming Majority Leader Schum4er and Democratic leadership?
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