I am so proud of Meghan Markle not going to the Coronation!!!!

[Peacetrain]

And very happy that Prince Harry did. It is his father and I truly think he would have regretted it 20 years from now!! But Meghan needed to stand her ground and not be pulled into that misogynistic nightmare that the British Tabloids promote non stop.

I keep hearing about how Katherine had to go through the gauntlet.. and Camilla had to go through it.. Well damn it all to hell if you keep letting yourself be pulled through that, it will never end. You have to stand up and say enough is enough and not just think "whew, its the next woman's turn to be put on the rack"..

So good on you Meghan!! I know the tabloids are foaming, just foaming like mad dogs because you did not go over so they could tear you apart to sell a million newspapers or looks online.

And Harry proud of you too for standing up to Murdoch and his ilk in England, and suing the shorts off of them. I know the Heritage Foundation here is coming after you probably because Murdoch told them too.. hang in there.. hang tough..

[Lovie777]

1. The constant bashing of MM pisses me off.........................

[yellowdogintexas]

35. same here. If I remember correctly, it started when her first

pregnancy was announced.

All of a sudden, it was a complete 180 turn in terms of her treatment by the press. A complete no holds barred barrage of the worst gossip.

Of course, it didn't help that her father and sisters did their damndest to stir the pot before the wedding. That was the first blow.

I have been seeing all sorts of speculation that Meghan is actually planning an extravaganza star studded for Archie's birthday party, when the official word is a low key family affair.

She is never going to do anything right as far as the British Press is concerned.

Kudos to Harry for standing up for her.

[liberalla]

70. I found the father and sisters pulling those stunts absolutely appalling!

What the hell is wrong with people?? So petty, ugly and vindictive...

They looked 100 times worse than anything they were accusing her of !

[RobinA]

59. Same Here

and I'm not even a fan. Or a nonfan. Just think a lot of the things said about her are more than a bit much.

[Saoirse9]

96. When Harry and Meghan explain WHY the bashing happens

it just makes my blood boil. She is used as a distraction and a scapegoat. They use her to sell papers and they will literally say anything. Anything. If she has a new hairstyle she is only having that hairstyle to wreck the coronation.

I hope Harry destroys Murdoch.

[Tetrachloride]

2. There are better things to do than be a royal or

in their sights.

[Ocelot II]

3. I am quite indifferent, not sure why anyone in the US would care

one way or the other. The coronation is Britain's party, not ours.

[BuddhaGirl]

6. She's American

and royalty is an abhorrent.

Bravo to her for not going and subjecting herself to more b.s. from the Windsors and the British press.

[Ocelot II]

9. She married into that family; she can go to the big family party or not.

But she must have had some idea what she was getting into.

[maxsolomon]

15. It appears she did not have a full understanding.

At least of the level of someone who'd paid attention during Charles' & Diana's marriage. Or watched "The Queen".

She was a kid when all the scandals occurred.

[mgardener]

114. Read "Revenge"

By Tom Bower
Meagan is not the innocent she portrays.

She may not have know the fully what marrying into the royal family entailed, but she refused to listen when people tried to tell her.

[Peacetrain]

123. Tom Bower... is that the guy that claimed Meghans Mom was a drug dealer???

If so, that is one guy who is brick short of a full load.. He and Wooten have joined Piers in a non stop hate fest.. they are more than a little scary..

[Ilsa]

48. There is stuff happening now that I didn't see even in The Queen.

There is a real relationship between the royal office and certain media to always have someone in the barrel and avenues for stirring up controversy where none exists. I don't think there was any way to know how deep the plot was, or that the media would intentionally put their lives in jeopardy.

[catbyte]

52. You really can't help who you fall in love with and I give her props for at least trying.

She knew what a nightmare the British press was going to be, but I'm afraid both she and Harry were a little too optimistic about the support they'd have from Buckingham Palace. It's a shame all around.

[Sky Jewels]

74. Diana and Camilla were not subject to racist harassment

from inside and outside of the royal family.

[Rebl2]

116. They were

British though and think that makes the difference.

[Rebl2]

115. Exactly

I had a feeling before they were even married, she would never be totally accepted. The thing I don’t understand is they came to the United States to get away from scrutiny, but they are always doing things to attract attention to themselves.

[LakeArenal]

120. The couple are still celebrities so there will be interest.

I think if anyone wants to be very public it’s up to them.

I’m not sure they are avoiding scrutiny. They know they are famous.

I think they left to avoid the day to day bs in the family. Not necessarily the public.

[JohnSJ]

7. Same here

[obamanut2012]

12. She is an American, and the victim of systematic racism

At a very high level, coordinated LITERALLY between the Royal Family and Murdoch, Morgan, etal.

[pnwmom]

45. Most Americans have rejected the concept of royalty since we fought a war for independence

against the United Kingdom.

The coronation, for most of us, is a reminder of that Revolutionary War.

[Ilsa]

50. I've posted before, watching a coronation is very different from

watching a royal wedding. The wedding is a big, overblown party. The coronation is an adoration of an undemocratic process and philosophy about some people being better than others and chosen by God!

[pnwmom]

57. Yes, a wedding is a bigger version of fancy US weddings. But most US people

are repulsed by the idea of a family specially chosen by God to lead the country . . .

at least, non MAGA people.

[canuckledragger]

58. Not just US citizens, most Canadians don't much care for the monarchy either.

He's not my king, he's just a spoiled pompous moron born into money and power he never earned.

[pnwmom]

62. Well, he thinks he's your king -- which must be annoying! nt

[canuckledragger]

67. The inbred moron can think whatever he wants.

I'll never be anyone's 'subject'.

The British monarchy might have a representative here, the 'Governor General' but they have no power in Canada.

Conservatives attempt to 'rule' here, but that never works out for them very well.

[Ocelot II]

60. Personally, I don't remember the Revolutionary War, although I'm rather old,

and the coronation of Charles III is at this point in history merely a traditional relic unique to Britain and a few other countries (though the other European monarchies are bit more low-key about it). I don't regard it as an affront to American democracy (we are having enough problems holding that up on our own); it's just a thing that's going on in England and is a big deal for them, not for us. Not our circus, not our monkeys.

[pnwmom]

63. Hardy har har. I remember what I learned about it in school, which most of the

royalty fans seems to have forgotten.

The concept of a Royal Family goes directly against the American belief that All Men Are Created Equal.

[Ocelot II]

66. Of course, but like I said, it's their country, not ours,

and they can have a king and a big fancy coronation if they want to. It's a constitutional monarchy now, not an absolute one, and it can be abolished by an act of Parliament if that's what the people of the UK want. And I'm not so sure that Americans, or at least a significant percentage of them, think all men are created equal, either.

[pnwmom]

77. Sure they can, but why does it have to be spread all over AMERICAN media?

I wouldn't mind if they could keep their coronation to themselves.

And of course not all Americans believe all men are created equal. The magas certainly don't -- they think rich guys are better than everyone else. The Brits think rich guys with crowns are better than everyone else.

[Ocelot II]

80. It's all over American media because a lot of Americans are interested.

If they weren’t it wouldn’t be. Anyone who doesn’t want to watch doesn’t have to; it will mostly be over by noon US time and will not interfere much with our usual fare of mass shootings and Trump.

[niyad]

119. We have a major ongoing problem here because of the "all MEN" part. John

should have listened to Abigail.

[pnwmom]

122. Yes, he should have. nt

[vlyons]

56. My sentiments also

I'm an American, and Charlie Windsor as a human being is not one of my current inspirational figures. He could grow and evolve into one, if he aspired to do so. I wonder if he will?

[Effete Snob]

4. Rich people problems

[Joinfortmill]

5. 👍

[BlackSkimmer]

8. Prince Charles walked her down the aisle. Remember that?

The RF spent millions of pounds to accept her into the family. She chose another route.

It’s widely known that she was not invited.

[Peacetrain]

13. That is just bull hockey Skimmer...

They would not just invite Harry.. That would have blown up everywhere.. and the RF has been kow towing to the Tabloids since Phillip.. and what do they get for it? Frankly what do we get for it? That damn Fox News that has almost destroyed our country and it came out of the freaking Tabloids (Murdoch) .. The lies the tabloids push has hurt so many.. And what the hell does Harry get for standing up to them (of course they pay money to settle out of court because they make so much money on the bile they write).. not one ounce of support.. They begged for help and the gutless RF walked away.. because they are under the thumbs of the Tabloids and those who sell the whispers..

[BlackSkimmer]

29. Why did King Charles walk her down the aisle?

Please tell me that. Make that make sense dear.

They bent over backward for her.

[pandr32]

37. I agree.

[Peacetrain]

43. What in the world has Charles walking her down the aisle have to do with millions being spent

to make her part of the royal family .. (paraphrasing your post).. It was a decent thing to do especially since her trashy family tried to make a buck on it and got pulled into the tabloids.. personally she should have just walked herself.. she is a grown woman.. this whole business' of being given away by a father to a husband is pretty lame.. but again it was a decent thing to do since Meghan's father was not there.. That big ass wedding (which I am guessing you are referring to by millions) was what blew things up in the first place.. that and the totally detached from reality portion of the Markle family (they are not all grifters.. but dad sis and brother sure are)..I have grave doubts it was Meghan that needed the big wedding..Just about destroyed their lives..

What do you think of the Heritage Foundation trying to pull Harrys info to be in America? Why can you not see that the tabloids are at the center of all this right wing insanity that took on Brexit.. to Jan. 6th here.. and guess who is in the trenches fighting those bastards.. Harry and Meghan.. so I am in their corner all the way.. Harry wrote a book and put it all out there so there would be no more dribbles dribbles dribbles in an attempt to hold them hostage.. and he is fighting them tooth and nail..

[BlackSkimmer]

54. You really should read more - especially in respected outlets.

The Queen, the family…they did everything they could to make her feel accepted. Look up how much money they spent. Look up all the newspaper articles about her before the truth began to leak out.

Easy to find hon.

Harry’s book is nonsense.

There are several books with the truth. Harry has not sued those authors because the truth is in those books.

Oprah’s interview disappeared after so much was debunked.

Why is Megan still keeping a title? Why did she want a title for her kids?

Too funny.

[Peacetrain]

61. Back it up.... at what point in time would PRINCE Harry want to give up the heriditary titles for

his kids.. I read what they said.. they would let the kids make the decisions on that.. it is their heritage.. Harry is a Duke.. he is married, so Meghan is a Duchess because she is married to a Duke.. How about those truths... why do you have this need to make everything something that Meghan did.. Meghan did not make the kids Princes and Princesses.. their Dad did through his heritage..


Lord have mercy.. do you ever read what you type??

Besides you owe me an answer.. to the Heritage Foundation going after Harry.. the right wing tabbies went after Meghan in England and now we have a political arm of the right side backed up by Murdoch going after Harry here in this country.. Do you thing that is right??

[BlackSkimmer]

64. The Princess Royal does not have titles for her children.

Wonder why Megan wants them?

[Peacetrain]

68. Hmm wonder why you think it is Meghan

who is holding on for the titles.. beside Anne should have let the kids make up their minds on that. (my opinion). I happen to agree with them.. let the kids keep or drop the titles when they come of age.. that is their heritage..

[BlackSkimmer]

72. You really think Harry has any say?

Omg. Done here now.

[phylny]

105. As grandchildren of the Monarch,

Archie and Lillibet are entitled to the titles of Prince and Princess respectively. They can choose not to use them when they are older.

[BuddhaGirl]

71. LOL!

I see a LOT of Daily Mail drivel accepted as reality.

Nobody knows the absolute truth about this including you, dear!

[Ms. Toad]

81. So spending money acceptance?

Not in my book, not to mention that acceptance is a lot like tolerance: we'll put up with you being here, but don't expect a warm embrace.

[mgardener]

76. I agree too!

Try reading the book Revenge by Tom Bower.

Ms Markle does not appear to be the person people think she is.

[questionseverything]

44. Lol it's Harry & mm that "sell the whispers "

I don’t understand why harry gets to live or even visit the United States when he has bragged about his illegal drug use , he seems to think he’s above the law. He must of lied on his visa application.

Also it’s offensive that they have given their children “titles “ considering the children are American citizens and we are not supposed to accept that shit

Somewhere down the road, mm will be doing a “tell all” about oprah and tyler

[BlackSkimmer]

65. Thank you.

Eventually the truth will become true to their followers.

Many of us caught on fast.

[pnwmom]

46. The RF spent millions of pounds as a PR stunt. She and Harry had the private ceremony

by themselves, with the vicar, because the fancy wedding had little meaning to them.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

84. You realize

There was no “early wedding”, right?

[pnwmom]

86. Legally, no. But in their minds the simple private ceremony was the meaningful one.

The other one was just a big Royal Family extravaganza -- done to ingratiate the Royal Family with the public, not to please Harry and Megan.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

88. I'm guessing

That the legal wedding was meaningful to them as well, seeing as it’s the only one that could give Meghan her title.

I would say it’s odd that they chose to lie about the “first” wedding, but I find most of that they say to be odd.

[pnwmom]

89. They didn't lie about the first wedding. That was the one between them and the Vicar,

so in their minds that was the real one, not the big show.

When they said their vows in the private ceremony, they meant them.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

91. Of course they lied

She very clearly said they got married three days prior to their actual wedding ceremony…which was, of course, untrue.

[pnwmom]

94. For you, it wasn't true. I knew exactly what she meant, because I've known people

who had separate religious and civil ceremonies, and they considered the religious ceremony to be the real one.

[Saoirse9]

97. Oh honey

you've spent way too much time reading Daily Mail.

You need to detox.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

99. I don't read the Daily Mail

Or any British media, although I do enjoy watching BBC America on occasion.

[Saoirse9]

103. Could have fooled me!

So what exactly is your source of bullshit?

[SickOfTheOnePct]

121. Their interview with Oprah n/t

[treestar]

100. Yes, that kind of money would be spent

no matter who he married; he's a prince. His brother's wedding would have been expensive too. And Charles' first one and all of them.

[Sympthsical]

10. Oh sure.

I don't want to go to a wedding and I'm being "difficult"

Some random rich person who wouldn't piss on her admirers if they were on fire doesn't go to a party and she's heroic.

Whatever. I'm still not going to the wedding.

(It will never not be weird how people identify with fabulously wealthy celebrities who do not care about them. It's just royalty under another name)

[XanaDUer2]

92. I love your posts

[ggma]

11. I just cannot make myself care.

gg

[Duppers]

49. It's a "Royal" example of racism.

That's why I care.

[ggma]

75. That's why YOU care. I don't.

I have as much right to my opinion as you have to yours.

gg

[Duppers]

95. Gee, I'm sorry you don't care about prime examples of Racism.

I'll add you to my "ignore list."

[usonian]

14. When I chose a career path, I turned down royalty.

Look, I'm way more comfortable in jeans than a four-square suit, and let's talk about hats, can we?

A ballcap keeps the sun out of my eyes.
These don't.


And they attract wasps, as well.
More here:
http://njoymillinery.co.uk/the-most-outrageous-ascot-hats/

I'll never get my ascot!

[Ocelot II]

18. There should be some pretty good hats at this show.

[zanana1]

32. Please, oh please, don't let that style trend here.

[maxsolomon]

16. I never understood precisely who did what to Meghan. I know it was racial.

Was it Charles? Camilla? Elizabeth Regina? Phillip? Royal Household Staff? The Tabloids?

I know for sure it wasn't the band Dry Cleaning:

[AZ8theist]

42. "Was it Charles? Camilla? Elizabeth Regina? Phillip? Royal Household Staff? The Tabloids?"

YES

[Ilsa]

53. It's also about the royal institution setting up gossip to keep the

media happy so they won't go after Charles, Camilla, William or Kate. The RF made H&M the bogeyman to help the media sell product. In turn, the media stays out of Charles, Camilla's etc business.

[treestar]

101. there are several examples of them

bashing Meghan for doing a thing and praising Catherine for doing exactly the same thing.

The media wants the rivalry drama.

[Ocelot II]

17. Jill Biden is going, though.

[usonian]

19. The Brits need a touch of class.

So do we.
Thanks Joe and Dr. Jill!

[Peacetrain]

20. No President has ever gone to a Coronation of a British Monarch.. and no Monarch as far as I know

has ever gone to a Presidential Inauguration.. that is what makes our special relationship..

[GoCubsGo]

27. I don't recall ever reading that they went to the coronation of any other monarch, either.

British or otherwise. The same goes for swearings in of any foreign leaders. I don't recall foreign leaders/monarchs attending a Presidential inauguration, either. Ever. Funny how it was never an issue up until now. I'm getting really sick of this whole "Why isn't Biden there?" shit, when no other President was "there" previously. I don't care if it's a coronation or a damn train derailment. It's such bullshit.

[Ocelot II]

55. Exactly. It's a ceremony for the country that's having it.

Other world leaders might or might not be invited, depending on the relationship, but if a US president doesn't attend a ceremony that no other president has ever attended - whether or not invited - nothing should be read into it other than that it's a thing presidents don't go to. They send representatives if invited to do so. Foreign heads of states are not invited to and don't attend US presidents' inaugurations, so why should it be the other way around? The person making the biggest stink about Biden not attending is, of course, TFG, who is certain that he would have been invited if he'd still been president and is mad that he wasn't now.

Most of the foreign heads of state attending the coronation are other European royalty, most of whom are related to the British royal family anyhow.

[Ocelot II]

28. Most guests at prior coronations were other European monarchs,

mostly relatives of the British royals, and heads of state of colonies. There was no reason for a US president to attend. Before the reign of Queen Victoria, the US-UK relationship was largely adversarial, and Van Buren didn't attend Victoria's coronation because travel was more difficult at that time; traveling overseas wasn't practical before transatlantic air travel began in 1939, three years after the coronation of King George VI. Eisenhower, embroiled in the Korean War, chose to send an envoy to Elizabeth's coronation. Some noses are out of joint because Biden isn't going, but since US presidents have never attended a coronation before, the royals are not taking offense.

[halfulglas]

40. Originally it had to do with the fact that the US fought a revolution to not bow down to royalty.

And just continued the tradition of not attending the coronation of subsequent regents.

Personally, they will be doing wall to wall coverage on American TV and I'm not watching it. I didn't watch the funeral either, just watched some of the news highlights. I find it a bit unseemly the slavish way American TV covers the royal family almost as if they wish we had one. (Trump tried) We don't have to ignore it, but I'm tired of the royal worship.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

21. I agree

[PortTack]

22. Sick of hearing about Harry and his wife!

[jimfields33]

24. They want out of the limelight but are always saying something or doing something to get noticed.

Very weird couple.

[madville]

26. They've made 135 million in deals

Since all the drama started, would you stop?

[jimfields33]

39. Good point. Nope wouldn't stop either.

[BlackSkimmer]

30. Nailed it.

[pandr32]

38. +1

[Arazi]

82. They never said that. They did say they wanted to control their own appearances

Media. And PR.

They didn’t want to leave any of that up to the Royal Family anymore who were fucking around with the tabloids to screw them over.

[BuddhaGirl]

83. +1

Thanks for pointing the pointing out that fact

[pinkstarburst]

85. Yup. Basically just another Hollywood couple.

I see H/M as no more or less virtuous than any of the other royals.

[madville]

25. They've made a very lucrative career out of it

You’d think they want everything to be a drama since they literally make 10s of millions of dollars a year from all this attention.

[BlackSkimmer]

33. They've already changed their supposed "charitable" foundation into now

a “content creation” entity.

Hilarious how many fall for these grifters.

[Raine]

113. Me too, sick to death of them 🤢🤮 nt

[madville]

23. I have a hard time sympathizing

With folks who complain about all the attention and being in the limelight, while they simultaneously make 10s or 100s of millions voluntarily doing TV shows, selling interviews, speaking engagements, selling books, etc complaining about getting the attention. It has turned into a very lucrative career for them.

[BlackSkimmer]

31. Hey, why in the world would mm want to keep a title from such a racist institution?

Please explain.

[Tree Lady]

34. I will say her staying home has forced the tabloids

over there to pick other rumors to jump on. The latest is William having affairs. Could be truth or lie who knows who cares, but they have moved on from Meghan. I think she did the right thing to stop the massive crap of attention and rumors about her.

That said, she must have heard about all Diana went through, even though she was young when it happened once she met Harry surely she would have read up on his family. Doesn't take much reading to see how it destroyed Diana, gave her eating disorder and no happiness until she left.

Maybe she thought being an actress would make her rise above racism.

[vanlassie]

36. You might find Harry's book "Spare" informative.

[tritsofme]

41. These people remind me of the Kardashians.

Why follow this tabloid nonsense?

[OneBro]

47. Anti-Markle people tend to be unadulterated a**holes.

Some right-wingers, some lefties, some devout racists and some “I can’t be racist because I voted for Obama” types, but the hate has become a religion with predictable themes:

1. The UK and the Royals welcomed her at great expense like family;

2. They asked for privacy, then had the audacity to publicly respond to the tabloid hatefest;

3. She’s rich now. How dare she complain about supposed racism she supposedly experienced in a supposedly racist UK and - perish the thought! - racist Royals?!;

yada, yada, yada . . .

Tabloids give bottom-feeders exactly what they want each time they publish another vapid article citing “Royal sources,” and that some supposed liberals will happily feed at the same trough is no more shocking than butter on toast.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal

[debm55]

90. was she invited? I haven't read a post if she was or not. If she was not invited, then I agree with

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[obnoxiousdrunk]

98. +1. Nt

[Saoirse9]

106. I think the anti-Markles are the same as trumpers

just deplorable 100%.

That or they have had a steady diet of Daily Mail and Fox news all their lives and know nothing else.

[Skittles]

112. nonsense

they simply see her for what she is

[OneBro]

124. They see what they want to see.

[Skittles]

125. so do you

over and out

[onecaliberal]

51. They are racist trolls. I am so glad she didn't go.

[Demsrule86]

69. Charles is a scumbag...hope he is the last of the useless royals.

[Whatthe_Firetruck]

73. Piers Morgan & why he hates Meghan...

https://jessica.substack.com/p/hell-hath-no-fury-like-a-man-rejected

[Rocknation]

78. Meghan was never invited. But they wanted Harry there so badly, they paid him and/or cut a deal

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In exchange for Harry's attending solo (in order to publicly rub his face in what he will never have for refusing his royal duty banishment -- oops, I mean assignment -- in Africa with his "well-qualified" wife), and Meghan "babysitting" back home, their children got an upgrade to their previously withheld (but nonetheless still quite worthless) royal titles.


Rocknation

[tblue37]

79. The royal family are expensive mascots with a reality show.

[ripcord]

87. I'm glad she's not going too

Would have just been more fodder for the gossip rags when she complained about being seated in the 7th row, appearance is very important to her.

[Skittles]

111. correct

she bailed when she realized she would always be second fiddle to Kate, she took the ball, er, Harry, and went home

[Saoirse9]

93. Wisest move

I am so impressed with this couple. Harry fighting Murdoch -- for all of us. For his wife yes, but his fight benefits all of us.

I don't thik they have put a foot wrong since they met. Handled so much bullshit with grace dignity and foritude. And balls. Geebus they are such fighters. They very politely told their wealthy powerful family just where to stick their royal titles.

Thanks for posting this -- I live for Harry and Meghan, hate the royal "family". More like the mafia than an actual family.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

102. They've given up their royal titles?

I hadn’t heard that - great news!

[Saoirse9]

104. Oh come on now

Go back to the Daily Mail comment boards and lay off the nice people.

Miss "I don't read the Daily Mail". I call bullshit.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

107. First, I'm not a "Miss"

I'm a Mister.

You're the one who said they told the royal family where to shove their titles, so what exactly did you mean by that?

And you can believe whatever you choose to believe, but it's rather shallow to believe that just because someone disagrees with your opinion on a given subject, they must, by default, be obtaining their information from unreliable sources.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

109. Ignorance apparently knows no bounds n/t

[Skittles]

110. I'm glad she's not there

I cannot stand her.

[GuppyGal]

117. I'm surprised that people give a shit. I don't give one fucking shit what these people do or don't

do.

[Crowman2009]

118. I hope nobody from the Irish govt. is showing up either.