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applegrove

(132,210 posts)
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:14 AM May 2023

McConnell Won't Back Clean Debt Limit Increase

McConnell Won’t Back Clean Debt Limit Increase

May 5, 2023 at 10:54 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 30 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2023/05/05/mcconnell-wont-back-clean-debt-limit-increase/

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Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has signed onto a letter stating he and more than 40 members of the Senate GOP conference will not back “any bill that raises the debt ceiling without substantive spending and budget reforms,” The Hill reports.

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MurrayDelph

(5,752 posts)
1. Anyone who expects anythinging from Mitch McConnell
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:22 AM
May 2023

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other than backstabbing, double-dealing, ratfucking and hypocrisy

has not been paying attention for the last 25 years.

Deuxcents

(26,915 posts)
2. He, of all people, knows better. He's also aware how the game is played..
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:32 AM
May 2023

Spend as they will and when the bills come, blame it on the democrats. Biden knows their game, too. The debt ceiling and the budget are two different issues and he ain’t playing. Every democrat and honorable politician need to support Biden and put this debt ceiling to rest. Am I right to say the constitution does not address the debt ceiling..it was established as a means to force concessions from the president for the budgetary debates?

applegrove

(132,210 posts)
3. There was some vague mention of public debt in the Constitution. But not
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:47 AM
May 2023

the debt ceiling.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt14-S4-1/ALDE_00000849/

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Fourteenth Amendment, Section 4:

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.


Although Section 4 was undoubtedly inspired by the desire to put beyond question the obligations of the government issued during the Civil War, its language indicates a broader connotation. . . . '[T]he validity of the public debt'. . . [embraces] whatever concerns the integrity of the public obligations, and applies to government bonds issued after as well as before adoption of the Amendment.1

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Deuxcents

(26,915 posts)
4. Debt, yes. Pay the bills. Debt ceiling was a congressional invention..
Sat May 6, 2023, 01:02 AM
May 2023

And probably wouldn’t be such a big issue if it weren’t for the big tax breaks.

applegrove

(132,210 posts)
7. If Biden offered tax cuts for the rich for a clean debt ceiling pass I'm
Sat May 6, 2023, 02:22 PM
May 2023

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sure the GOP would agree.

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
5. Turtle speaks...he knows they are not in a winning position
Sat May 6, 2023, 01:27 AM
May 2023

Their goal: make a democratic president complicit in big cuts to social programs and veteran benefits.

President Biden is too savvy to fall for their nonsense!

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
6. Hmm has he made a deal with Manchin and Sinema? Awhile ago he said he did
Sat May 6, 2023, 01:48 AM
May 2023

expect a clean debt limit bill.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
8. Here are your reforms, Moscow Turtle
Mon May 8, 2023, 12:05 AM
May 2023

1) Rescind the 2017 tax cut for the wealthy.

2) Cut all defense contractor spending by 15%

3) Cut all traitor party salaries and benefits packages.

4) PISS OFF

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