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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFani Willis Can Be Removed From Office
Georgia governor Brian Kemp has just signed into law a bill that allows a committee to remove prosecutors from office.
Lt. Governor Burt Jones appoints the committee that has the power to remove Fani and other prosecutors.
Burt Jones is a target in the Fanni Willis investigation into the fake electors.
https://atlantadailyworld.com/2023/05/05/gov-kemp-to-sign-bill-that-allows-republicans-to-strip-fani-willis-of-her-power-as-she-closes-in-on-trump/
Ocelot II
(130,538 posts)That law doesn't go into effect until summer of 2024.
gab13by13
(32,335 posts)It is still a bad law.
marble falls
(71,936 posts)Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Courts logically going to see this as a direct attack on the entire justice system and separation of powers which is why its unconstitutional in the extreme.
Kingofalldems
(40,279 posts)jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)Then it might be useful.
It is the Republican way to create unnecessary hurdles and then trip on them at their first use.
bluestarone
(22,179 posts)I feel 2024 is STILL a big problem. Hell this could go longer if TFG is involved!
Scrivener7
(59,522 posts)and pass a law that moves up the date.
It's not like their consciences or precedent or the law will stop them from it.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)paleotn
(22,218 posts)I put no faith in the scruples of our current SCOTUS and that's where the legality of this will probably end up.
onenote
(46,143 posts)Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)gab13by13
(32,335 posts)There are too many prosecutors of color to suit Kemp so it seems to Fani as she called them out for being racist.
onenote
(46,143 posts)gab13by13
(32,335 posts)I removed the word "now." I guess I could have replaced now with later.
My link didn't have a time frame, so sorry.
Next summer a committee appointed by Lt. Governor Burt Jones, who is a target of the Fani Willis prosecution, can remove Fani Willis from office. Correct?
A Trump trial will never happen before the summer of 2024, IMO.
dem4decades
(14,061 posts)Dave says
(5,425 posts)A Trump-friendly hack gets elected President and pardons Trump. He gets away with his crimes once again.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)what HW did, the first day of his presidency. There were over one hundred master criminals indicted at the end of the Reagan years, for corruption and whole list of other Federal charges and felonies...........
Of course, you have to think about the so called Reagan Adminstration........Reagan was "installed" as President by treasonous activities by HW and the Republican Party. HW was running the government, as was Cheney in the "W" so called Administration.
So HW was basically pardoning himself as the leader of all those indicted individuals. That way, he could welcome the same CABAL into his administration, without missing a step.
And during "W"s years, he appointed many of those left over from Reagan and HW to his administration to carry on where they left off after Clinton.......
There was much more evidence that there wasn't the "Clinton" Dynasty as much as there was the" Bush" Dynasty. With the help of the Saudi's of course......
If Trump gets re-elected, he will immediately Pardon everyone, including the J6 imprisoned, and countless others......and they will be off to the races for the final Coup De Gras (sp?) At that point it will be over for all time, them establishing the Corporate Fascist Tyranny, to replace Democracy, the Constitution, and our entire economy.
If that day comes, there will only be two classes of citizens: The Upper-Upper class and everyone else in the Lower-Lower Class who will all be serfs and peasants, like mid-evil times...........
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)Although, at this point, it looks like the case is entirely within the scope of Georgia laws.
Easterncedar
(6,269 posts)We clearly have an orchestrated assault on the rule of law.
What are we going to do? Cause the courts are not the remedy they once were.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)are also fascist, which apparently is a thing these days in places.
Easterncedar
(6,269 posts)The court ruled the expulsion of the elected prosecutor was illegal, but said the court had no power to order any remedy. Utterly maddening.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Easterncedar
(6,269 posts)The executive, legislative and judicial branches are unified.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)maxrandb
(17,428 posts)The "good" people in Florida and Georgia will fix this, right?
I keep hearing, that, any moment now, all the "good" people in these states that couldn't be bothered to vote, will rise up and save our country from the fascists.
I mean, unless the new season of Survivor is really good.
Easterncedar
(6,269 posts)Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)As per her earlier announcement (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/georgia-prosecutor-reveal-charging-decisions-trump-probe-summer-rcna81242), she will charge them this summer. The law itself takes efffect after November of 2024, unless the Georgia legislatures are flipped as a result of elections and the law is overturned. It can also be overturned in courts regardless of outcome of the elections.
My money is on AG Willis walking away from this case with a whole bunch of precedent-setting convictions.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)yours is an astute prediction backed by precedent. Very recent.
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)Last edited Sat May 6, 2023, 12:44 PM - Edit history (1)
Do they match or resemble AG Willis' circumstances, and to what extent? After all, this thread is about her and not Garland. Were they really unprecedented or did they follow past precedents?
He certainly did not walk away from the undeniably unprecedented gaggle of recent seditious conspiracy cases that ended up in convictions and long sentences!
BTW, I am not predicting anything. I am studiously calculating the odds, backed by past, current and anticipated events, against the new GA law negatively affecting AG Willis' timely, uninterrupted and successful completion of her case.
On a rather embarrassing edit: Dchill just brought it to my attention that I completely misunderstood the intention of your post. Rather than self deleting, I thought it would be more appropriate to leave it on and add an apology to it. So please accept my apology and disregard what I said above.
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)dchill
(42,660 posts)Big difference.
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)Also, a note to self: don't look for sarcasm where none is intended.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Salute!
I did use
with
away
in the same sentence, my awkward phrasing.
I need an editor
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)And I need an interpretor. Together, we can significantly lower unemployment rate in the US.
edhopper
(37,370 posts)Kemp will pardon Trump no matter what she does.
Justice matters.
(9,790 posts)How hard is it to get a pardon in Georgia?
You must have completed all sentence(s) at least five (5) years prior to applying and have lived a law-abiding life since the completion of your sentence(s). You can have no pending charges against you. All fines must be paid in full.
Pardons & Restoration of Rights - State Board of Pardons and Paroles
georgia.gov
https://pap.georgia.gov parole-consideration pardons...
Search for: How hard is it to get a pardon in Georgia?
https://www.google.com/search?q=Georgia+state+pardons&oq=Georgia+state+pardons&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i512j0i22i30l2j0i390i650l3.12446j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Edited to add link to PDF:
https://gjp.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/2021.9.14-How-To_-General-Pardon.pdf
Warpy
(114,616 posts)He's totally ignorant of the law and how this country works. All he can see is making points with the MAGA fundagelicals, which is now the main voting bloc of the GOP, the white nationalist theocrats.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)when in the last 6+ years have the Republicans shown any respect what-so-ever for the "Rules of Law", the U.S. Constitution, or any other f***ing thing that stands in their way.
To the Repubs, their Mantra has always been: "The Means Justifies the End"..........period.
Or more simply put: "By Hook or by Crook"
Believe me, they Republicans have proven they can do ANYTHING......The 2000, 2004, and 2016 Presidential Elections have more than proven their CABAL is capable of anything and everything.............
Warpy
(114,616 posts)to any system of ethics, morality, or the rule of law.
The end, of course, is a white supremacist, patriarchal Christian theocracy based on the loopy rich man's theology that says rich men are obviously born favored by gawd and poor men are born cursed and are automatically destined for hell unless they are born again in the LAWD and washed in the blood of the lamb (ugh), blah blah blah. You know, lined up in a brain dead game of follow the leader like they have in any other dictatorship.
The ends are rarely achieved (when they are, they're unstable)and the means are what we live by.
Their first step to ending rights for people who aren't rich, white, male Christians is the overturning of Roe. We're seeing what those means look like.
The rest will be at least as ugly.
edhopper
(37,370 posts)Iggo
(49,928 posts)Actually, I also heard April of next year. So now I dont know what Im talking about lol.
gab13by13
(32,335 posts)she began investigating Trump in March of 2021. She has experience in doing RICO prosecutions which is the reason, I believe, she is taking her time going for indictments.
Maybe some of the legal experts here can give an opinion of what happens if Fani indicts numerous people, possibly some high profile names, and come the summer of 2024 this commission removes Fani? What if a trial is not scheduled yet because of numerous appeals, then what? Does the governor temporarily replace Fani with a Magat?
Warpy
(114,616 posts)and have separation of powers. Kemp's reach has exceeded his grasp. This won't stand long enough to do any damage.
These rabid shitheads have absolutely no idea of what they're doing in their rush to protect their porcine Lard and Savior from prosecution for the crimes he committed in office and out.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)Fascist criminals in Georgia want the legal right to remove the prosecutors who are prosecuting them from office.