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gab13by13

(32,335 posts)
Sat May 6, 2023, 10:10 AM May 2023

Fani Willis Can Be Removed From Office

Georgia governor Brian Kemp has just signed into law a bill that allows a committee to remove prosecutors from office.

Lt. Governor Burt Jones appoints the committee that has the power to remove Fani and other prosecutors.

Burt Jones is a target in the Fanni Willis investigation into the fake electors.



https://atlantadailyworld.com/2023/05/05/gov-kemp-to-sign-bill-that-allows-republicans-to-strip-fani-willis-of-her-power-as-she-closes-in-on-trump/

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Fani Willis Can Be Removed From Office (Original Post) gab13by13 May 2023 OP
No, she can't, at least not yet. Ocelot II May 2023 #1
Thank you, you just made me feel somewhat better. gab13by13 May 2023 #2
There will be a court challenge. This will not stand. marble falls May 2023 #4
Fascists hate courts. Prosecutors are the most powerful cog, not even judges more powerful. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #9
So you need to change your OP. Kingofalldems May 2023 #20
It is an unnecessary law until a MAGA needs removing. jaxexpat May 2023 #32
True, BUT bluestarone May 2023 #13
They just passed this unthinkable fascist law. I fear they'll correct their mistake Scrivener7 May 2023 #46
Then she had better get a move on. blueinredohio May 2023 #3
Only 7 months to go, panic time! Though highly likely unconstitutional, so...no panic!? Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #10
It's still concerning. She'd better strike soon. paleotn May 2023 #34
How is July 2024 seven months from now? onenote May 2023 #38
You are correct! My point is even now more valid! Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #41
The law will take effect July 2024 according to the Guardian. gab13by13 May 2023 #5
Correct. So why don't you delete or edit your misleading OP? onenote May 2023 #8
Sorry, I was out cutting my grass gab13by13 May 2023 #26
If only there was a federal prosecutor that could do her investigation. dem4decades May 2023 #6
There's a downside to that Dave says May 2023 #17
That is precisely DENVERPOPS May 2023 #36
Willis referring charges to DOJ is not out of the question. Beastly Boy May 2023 #23
With DeSatan kicking out elected prosecutors Easterncedar May 2023 #7
The courts will hold on his one, separation of powers clearly being breached...unless the judges Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #12
In Florida Easterncedar May 2023 #15
That judge was wrong...illegality and personal damage without remedy is awesomely not the law. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #16
But who holds the judge to account? Easterncedar May 2023 #35
Appeal court. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #42
Don't worry maxrandb May 2023 #21
Sad but true Easterncedar May 2023 #33
This will have no effect in completing her investigation into fake electors. Beastly Boy May 2023 #11
Garland has walked away already with a gaggle of precedent setting seditious conspiracy cases, so Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #14
Can you give examples of what Garland walked away from, and under what circumstances? Beastly Boy May 2023 #22
+++++ emulatorloo May 2023 #25
Poster said "with," not "from." dchill May 2023 #27
Oops, my bad. Reading comprehension issues. My apologies to Alexander of Assyria and to you. Beastly Boy May 2023 #30
No problem! Misunderstanding seem so damn common on chat boards, apologies are the rarity. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #43
Thanks. Beastly Boy May 2023 #45
Get real edhopper May 2023 #18
Maybe not? Justice matters. May 2023 #19
You think that will stop Kemp? Warpy May 2023 #31
Somewhat have to agree DENVERPOPS May 2023 #37
You mean their end justifies means that are unaccptable Warpy May 2023 #40
Thanks for the info. edhopper May 2023 #39
No. Not now. In July of next year. Iggo May 2023 #24
I have all the faith in the world in Fani Willis, gab13by13 May 2023 #28
Most state constitutions are patterned on the national constitution Warpy May 2023 #29
This is stone cold Nazi tyranny. Roisin Ni Fiachra May 2023 #44
 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
9. Fascists hate courts. Prosecutors are the most powerful cog, not even judges more powerful.
Sat May 6, 2023, 10:47 AM
May 2023

Courts logically going to see this as a direct attack on the entire justice system and separation of powers…which is why it’s unconstitutional in the extreme.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
32. It is an unnecessary law until a MAGA needs removing.
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:59 PM
May 2023

Then it might be useful.

It is the Republican way to create unnecessary hurdles and then trip on them at their first use.

bluestarone

(22,179 posts)
13. True, BUT
Sat May 6, 2023, 10:50 AM
May 2023

I feel 2024 is STILL a big problem. Hell this could go longer if TFG is involved!

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
46. They just passed this unthinkable fascist law. I fear they'll correct their mistake
Sun May 7, 2023, 05:36 PM
May 2023

and pass a law that moves up the date.

It's not like their consciences or precedent or the law will stop them from it.

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
34. It's still concerning. She'd better strike soon.
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:59 PM
May 2023

I put no faith in the scruples of our current SCOTUS and that's where the legality of this will probably end up.

gab13by13

(32,335 posts)
5. The law will take effect July 2024 according to the Guardian.
Sat May 6, 2023, 10:26 AM
May 2023

There are too many prosecutors of color to suit Kemp so it seems to Fani as she called them out for being racist.

gab13by13

(32,335 posts)
26. Sorry, I was out cutting my grass
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:12 PM
May 2023

I removed the word "now." I guess I could have replaced now with later.

My link didn't have a time frame, so sorry.

Next summer a committee appointed by Lt. Governor Burt Jones, who is a target of the Fani Willis prosecution, can remove Fani Willis from office. Correct?

A Trump trial will never happen before the summer of 2024, IMO.

Dave says

(5,425 posts)
17. There's a downside to that
Sat May 6, 2023, 11:09 AM
May 2023

A Trump-friendly hack gets elected President and pardons Trump. He gets away with his crimes once again.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
36. That is precisely
Sat May 6, 2023, 01:26 PM
May 2023

what HW did, the first day of his presidency. There were over one hundred master criminals indicted at the end of the Reagan years, for corruption and whole list of other Federal charges and felonies...........

Of course, you have to think about the so called Reagan Adminstration........Reagan was "installed" as President by treasonous activities by HW and the Republican Party. HW was running the government, as was Cheney in the "W" so called Administration.
So HW was basically pardoning himself as the leader of all those indicted individuals. That way, he could welcome the same CABAL into his administration, without missing a step.
And during "W"s years, he appointed many of those left over from Reagan and HW to his administration to carry on where they left off after Clinton.......
There was much more evidence that there wasn't the "Clinton" Dynasty as much as there was the" Bush" Dynasty. With the help of the Saudi's of course......

If Trump gets re-elected, he will immediately Pardon everyone, including the J6 imprisoned, and countless others......and they will be off to the races for the final Coup De Gras (sp?) At that point it will be over for all time, them establishing the Corporate Fascist Tyranny, to replace Democracy, the Constitution, and our entire economy.

If that day comes, there will only be two classes of citizens: The Upper-Upper class and everyone else in the Lower-Lower Class who will all be serfs and peasants, like mid-evil times...........

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
23. Willis referring charges to DOJ is not out of the question.
Sat May 6, 2023, 11:45 AM
May 2023

Although, at this point, it looks like the case is entirely within the scope of Georgia laws.

Easterncedar

(6,269 posts)
7. With DeSatan kicking out elected prosecutors
Sat May 6, 2023, 10:29 AM
May 2023

We clearly have an orchestrated assault on the rule of law.

What are we going to do? Cause the courts are not the remedy they once were.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
12. The courts will hold on his one, separation of powers clearly being breached...unless the judges
Sat May 6, 2023, 10:49 AM
May 2023

are also fascist, which apparently is a thing these days in places.

Easterncedar

(6,269 posts)
15. In Florida
Sat May 6, 2023, 10:51 AM
May 2023

The court ruled the expulsion of the elected prosecutor was illegal, but said the court had no power to order any remedy. Utterly maddening.

maxrandb

(17,428 posts)
21. Don't worry
Sat May 6, 2023, 11:38 AM
May 2023

The "good" people in Florida and Georgia will fix this, right?



I keep hearing, that, any moment now, all the "good" people in these states that couldn't be bothered to vote, will rise up and save our country from the fascists.

I mean, unless the new season of Survivor is really good.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
11. This will have no effect in completing her investigation into fake electors.
Sat May 6, 2023, 10:48 AM
May 2023

As per her earlier announcement (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/georgia-prosecutor-reveal-charging-decisions-trump-probe-summer-rcna81242), she will charge them this summer. The law itself takes efffect after November of 2024, unless the Georgia legislatures are flipped as a result of elections and the law is overturned. It can also be overturned in courts regardless of outcome of the elections.

My money is on AG Willis walking away from this case with a whole bunch of precedent-setting convictions.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
14. Garland has walked away already with a gaggle of precedent setting seditious conspiracy cases, so
Sat May 6, 2023, 10:51 AM
May 2023

yours is an astute prediction backed by precedent. Very recent.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
22. Can you give examples of what Garland walked away from, and under what circumstances?
Sat May 6, 2023, 11:40 AM
May 2023

Last edited Sat May 6, 2023, 12:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Do they match or resemble AG Willis' circumstances, and to what extent? After all, this thread is about her and not Garland. Were they really unprecedented or did they follow past precedents?

He certainly did not walk away from the undeniably unprecedented gaggle of recent seditious conspiracy cases that ended up in convictions and long sentences!

BTW, I am not predicting anything. I am studiously calculating the odds, backed by past, current and anticipated events, against the new GA law negatively affecting AG Willis' timely, uninterrupted and successful completion of her case.

On a rather embarrassing edit: Dchill just brought it to my attention that I completely misunderstood the intention of your post. Rather than self deleting, I thought it would be more appropriate to leave it on and add an apology to it. So please accept my apology and disregard what I said above.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
30. Oops, my bad. Reading comprehension issues. My apologies to Alexander of Assyria and to you.
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:34 PM
May 2023

Also, a note to self: don't look for sarcasm where none is intended.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
43. No problem! Misunderstanding seem so damn common on chat boards, apologies are the rarity.
Sun May 7, 2023, 08:06 AM
May 2023

Salute!

I did use…with…away… in the same sentence, my awkward phrasing’.

I need an editor…

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
45. Thanks.
Sun May 7, 2023, 09:10 AM
May 2023

And I need an interpretor. Together, we can significantly lower unemployment rate in the US.

Justice matters.

(9,790 posts)
19. Maybe not?
Sat May 6, 2023, 11:30 AM
May 2023
How hard is it to get a pardon in Georgia?

You must have completed all sentence(s) at least five (5) years prior to applying and have lived a law-abiding life since the completion of your sentence(s). You can have no pending charges against you. All fines must be paid in full.

Pardons & Restoration of Rights - State Board of Pardons and Paroles

georgia.gov
https://pap.georgia.gov › parole-consideration › pardons...
Search for: How hard is it to get a pardon in Georgia?

https://www.google.com/search?q=Georgia+state+pardons&oq=Georgia+state+pardons&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i512j0i22i30l2j0i390i650l3.12446j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Edited to add link to PDF:
https://gjp.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/2021.9.14-How-To_-General-Pardon.pdf

Warpy

(114,616 posts)
31. You think that will stop Kemp?
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:35 PM
May 2023

He's totally ignorant of the law and how this country works. All he can see is making points with the MAGA fundagelicals, which is now the main voting bloc of the GOP, the white nationalist theocrats.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
37. Somewhat have to agree
Sat May 6, 2023, 01:35 PM
May 2023

when in the last 6+ years have the Republicans shown any respect what-so-ever for the "Rules of Law", the U.S. Constitution, or any other f***ing thing that stands in their way.

To the Repubs, their Mantra has always been: "The Means Justifies the End"..........period.
Or more simply put: "By Hook or by Crook"

Believe me, they Republicans have proven they can do ANYTHING......The 2000, 2004, and 2016 Presidential Elections have more than proven their CABAL is capable of anything and everything.............

Warpy

(114,616 posts)
40. You mean their end justifies means that are unaccptable
Sat May 6, 2023, 07:02 PM
May 2023

to any system of ethics, morality, or the rule of law.

The end, of course, is a white supremacist, patriarchal Christian theocracy based on the loopy rich man's theology that says rich men are obviously born favored by gawd and poor men are born cursed and are automatically destined for hell unless they are born again in the LAWD and washed in the blood of the lamb (ugh), blah blah blah. You know, lined up in a brain dead game of follow the leader like they have in any other dictatorship.

The ends are rarely achieved (when they are, they're unstable)and the means are what we live by.

Their first step to ending rights for people who aren't rich, white, male Christians is the overturning of Roe. We're seeing what those means look like.

The rest will be at least as ugly.

Iggo

(49,928 posts)
24. No. Not now. In July of next year.
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:05 PM
May 2023

Actually, I also heard April of next year. So now I don’t know what I’m talking about…lol.

gab13by13

(32,335 posts)
28. I have all the faith in the world in Fani Willis,
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:21 PM
May 2023

she began investigating Trump in March of 2021. She has experience in doing RICO prosecutions which is the reason, I believe, she is taking her time going for indictments.

Maybe some of the legal experts here can give an opinion of what happens if Fani indicts numerous people, possibly some high profile names, and come the summer of 2024 this commission removes Fani? What if a trial is not scheduled yet because of numerous appeals, then what? Does the governor temporarily replace Fani with a Magat?

Warpy

(114,616 posts)
29. Most state constitutions are patterned on the national constitution
Sat May 6, 2023, 12:32 PM
May 2023

and have separation of powers. Kemp's reach has exceeded his grasp. This won't stand long enough to do any damage.

These rabid shitheads have absolutely no idea of what they're doing in their rush to protect their porcine Lard and Savior from prosecution for the crimes he committed in office and out.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
44. This is stone cold Nazi tyranny.
Sun May 7, 2023, 08:07 AM
May 2023

Fascist criminals in Georgia want the legal right to remove the prosecutors who are prosecuting them from office.

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