Gun nuts love to trot out the

[kairos12]

idea they need their modern day muskets to protect themselves against a "tyrannical government."

They fail to acknowledge that handing an AR-15 to every rube on the street makes them a potential tyrant who executes at will.

[NutmegYankee]

1. If guns ownership was to stop a tyrannical government...

Samuel Alito would have a few million gunshot wounds in his body right this instance.

It's bullshit.

[NJCher]

2. They also fail to realize

The victims are random and could just as easily be their child, their wife, their mom or dad.

They will just take one for the team.

USA! USA!

[Beachnutt]

3. This should be a law if they have to have guns

pass a law requiring all owners of military grade weapons to consent to being drafted. You say it’s for a well regulated militia. Well, there you go.

[SledDriver]

17. A "well regulated militia" should be able to handle some "regulation"

Article 1, Section 8, Clauses 15 and 16:

Clause 15 Calling Militias
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

Clause 16 Organizing Militias
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

[ProudMNDemocrat]

4. A former neighbor of mine in Rochester owns guns...

One day last year, I walked over to his house to ask permission to be in his yard to trim some bushes from his side of the yard and throw them into mine over the fence. I politely knocked on his back side door. I saw instantly a sticker that said..."I Have Guns and WILL USE them if necessary." There was a symbol of a firearm.

I turned back and went to my back yard. I was not going to take any chances. I cleaned up the bushes, leaving the ones on his side of the fence alone. The next day, I saw cut bush branches in my yard that he cut down and threw over the fence into my yard. Turns out, he was also flicking cigarette butts into our yard over the winter after we had moved out. My son called me about that a week ago and I relayed the story about the gun sticker.

Long story short, my son confronted the cowardly neighbor about the cigarette butts, said that new neighbors would be moving in in a few weeks and to stop being an asshole. We will see. My son is keeping an eye out.

[kairos12]

6. I know you are telling your son to stay safe.

After that guy in Florida got away with killing that man for throwing popcorn at him I believe people just fire away now.

I know Florida is whack, but the gun contagion seems everywhere.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

9. The said former neighbor is also a TRUMPER.

Had his 2020 flag flying well over a year AFTER the election.

[JanLip]

5. To them

A tyrannical government = children, innocent men and women, people going about their daily lives

Jan

[Fullduplexxx]

7. and which party is behaving like a tyrannical government

[The Jungle 1]

8. We have gun control and we need more.

I cannot go down to the local walfart and buy a stinger missile. I want a mortar why can't I have one. I can't have one because of gun control. I cannot have a fully auto AR. Because of gun control.
WE ARE NOT TRYING TO TAKE ALL GUNS. That is a right wing lie. The vast majority of Americans want reasonable gun laws!!!
There was a mass shooting 100 yards from my bedroom. I want gun control.

[yardwork]

11. The media is complicit in perpetuating this nonsense.

You're absolutely right but nobody ever reports that.

[KPN]

21. Yes. It will be interesting to see how much attention the Sunday morning news shows give to

yesterdays massacre by asking GOP team members tough questions. I don't normally watch the Sunday mornings and won't today because of other commitments, but I'd sure like to see how the media do with that today.

[JI7]

13. Especially when they give the excuse about needing guns to fight Govt tyranny

If it's about that then they should let individuals own missiles in case they need to defend themselves against Govt persecution.

[Timewas]

15. you can

Actually you can have a full auto AR.... Apply to ATF and pay 200 dollar tax... Perfectly legal.

[The Jungle 1]

25. Yes there are laws controlling who can get the licence. It is gun control.

That is what we are asking for more gun reasonable gun control laws. Way to many people are being butchered.
It is not reasonable for me to own an fully auto AR. No one has a need for that gun.
I cannot buy a stinger missile. Which is reasonable. There is no legitimate use for citizens to own killing machines.
A well regulated militia!!!!

[Timewas]

26. Well

All I say is that you can have one, not that you should or really have any need for one.

[The Jungle 1]

28. Agreed

However a lot of Americans are dying. It is time to pick a side.
There was a mass shooting 100 yards from my bedroom.

[Skittles]

10. they need their guns because they are COWARDS

fucking COWARDS

[azureblue]

19. self deluded

They live up in their heads, in a world formed from watching too many Rambo type movies and TV shows, and listening to right wing scare mongers. But now, they have created this horror of people getting killed in mass shootings practically every day. They twist and turn to try to avoid the reality of it - they made it easy for nuts to get guns.


I was grocery shopping yesterday - the guy in front of me had a holstered Glock, and we were maybe 3 feet apart in line for checkout. He was chatting with the cashier and not paying attention to anyone, including the person who was standing on the other side of him. I happened to have a large can of vegetables in my cart, and I though how easy it would be for me to clock him up side his head and take his gun away from him. But, hey, he thinks he is protecting himself against something.. And I'm thinking that the blood and deaths of all these innocents, is on his hands..

[Timewas]

27. Yup

Open carry is insane, just makes them a target for the first shots fired.

[Skittles]

31. I would never date a gun humper

I absolutely DETEST cowards.

[Butterflylady]

12. You are so right.

They do not know how to settle things without guns. Republicans are the ones who are mentally ill.

[canuckledragger]

14. If they were telling the truth about stopping a tyrannical government...

...they would have stopped Trump.

It's all about the cowards having something to try and intimidate others with, or hurt others for good when their own feefees get hurt over something imaginary.

[Shermann]

18. The 2020 arrests in Portland by federal officers in unmarked vehicles didn't get a rise out of them

It's not often that these tyrannical government risk control measures get tested. They were tested then, and they failed.

[Wingus Dingus]

22. Literally snatching people off the streets. I remember that.

Trump 2.0 will be far worse, because he'll have been emboldened by being re-elected after all the crimes he's committed.

[Shermann]

29. Tyranny is in the eye of the beholder apparently

I would argue that prioritizing the supernatural world over the wellness of beings in the natural world is a form of tyranny. The Islamic religious police have demonstrated that.

[Wingus Dingus]

30. Yes, absolutely.

[Karadeniz]

16. If the Founders had wanted people to take up arms against their government, why did they

espouse voting as the means to do something about a government they didn't like?

[Doc_Technical]

20. As far as I'm concerned,

The Second amendment only applies to
smooth bore muzzle loading black powder firearms.

[central scrutinizer]

23. Yes

When the second amendment was written, every farmer had firepower equal to a soldier. Today that would require nuclear tipped cruise missiles in a silo in your backyard.

[usonian]

24. Just curious. Has anyone tried open carry in a bank?

[Martin Eden]

32. If these RW extremists ever used their 2A joysticks to overthrow our government

We could kiss liberty and justice goodbye. They would have destroyed the Constitution they claim to revere.

Of course, it's a delusional fantasy for sick minds grasping for a sense of power.

[Victor_c3]

33. I'd argue that guns are used to inflict tyranny on the public, not to protect us from the government

Where were the mobs of armed men protecting black school children from violence when they desegregated schools?