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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Sun May 7, 2023, 11:53 AM May 2023

The judge put a kink in Trump's plans...

...and it has totally befuddled him.

He thought he could fly overseas, create a little "news", and over-shadow whatever might come out of the E Jean Carrol rape trial. He would blame the judge for not letting him fly back and testify in his own defense. Once again, he was going to be the "victim".

However, the judge gave him to Sunday at 5 pm to decide whether or not he wanted to testify in his own defense.

But, the video of his deposition was released to the public and it was devastating for Trump's reputation and appearance. More or less, he admitted he was a "star" and he could grab women wherever he wanted, and that was "fortunate" for him, however "unfortunate" it might be for women? Trump did not want the narrative to end on this point.

So, he told his guests in Ireland and Scotland that he had to fly back to America to confront these god-awful charges against him.

Trump does not have any options in this matter. He does not want to testify in front of the jury. He does not want the trial to end at this point of definition either? So, he is stuck between the proverbial rock and hard place.

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The judge put a kink in Trump's plans... (Original Post) kentuck May 2023 OP
Agreed ..... anciano May 2023 #1
Great OP malaise May 2023 #2
Only 1:41 to go now. Nt OhNo-Really May 2023 #33
Times up malaise May 2023 #38
Yup!!! OhNo-Really May 2023 #40
All he really has left, is to hold more rage-rallies. 70sEraVet May 2023 #3
I bet he waits until after the judge's deadline, Mr.Bill May 2023 #4
Stroke out already, you F'n, murdering, orange TRAITOR** and rapist. niyad May 2023 #5
Please, no. No mortal stroke. We demand him to be caged and kept alive as long as possible. erronis May 2023 #7
As much as I long for him to suffer in prison, he has to stop breathing. No emotional housecat May 2023 #31
He just couldn't help himself in that deposition. He HAD to brag. oldsoftie May 2023 #6
had to make it all about himself again. hates being ignored . AllaN01Bear May 2023 #9
Exactly. oldsoftie May 2023 #36
he also claimed EJC wasn't his type but in a line of photos he said that was 'Marla' Captain Zero May 2023 #13
Joy Reid had the picture with a small pic of Marla with it Maeve May 2023 #29
An additional thought on that... 2naSalit May 2023 #14
Any links to that deposition? I haven't wnylib May 2023 #19
This one is probably most compete... 2naSalit May 2023 #25
Thanks. I just watched k t. Had not seen this before. wnylib May 2023 #39
Nail, meet hammer. lastlib May 2023 #24
Or wave... 2naSalit May 2023 #27
Couple of reveals OhNo-Really May 2023 #34
Yup, and it was a perfect opportunity for Quakerfriend May 2023 #41
Her question readily translates to: "Are you entitled by stardom to assault women?" His answer... Hekate May 2023 #44
Ahhh, you are so right!! I hadn't thought Quakerfriend May 2023 #47
Nah, she set the trap and he took the bait. Couldn't resist. bluesbassman May 2023 #45
Trump always makes things worse for Trump. GoCubsGo May 2023 #8
Courts are where the rock and the hard place coexist. Criminals hate courts. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #10
Give Trump until 4 am to decide. Then he will be awake all night. Tweeting in a hot sweat. Tetrachloride May 2023 #11
No big deal for him. Not going to jail multigraincracker May 2023 #12
Just a point on the Trump University settlement... kentuck May 2023 #20
That's white collar crime in America CanonRay May 2023 #21
Yep. kentuck May 2023 #28
Wondering: could he give his own closing argument? Not testifying, but a ranting close? nt wiggs May 2023 #15
Trump has been trumped. Talitha May 2023 #16
The judge called his bluff. paleotn May 2023 #17
honestly, I thought he had a pretty good chance of beating this until I saw his exercise in logic prodigitalson May 2023 #18
in other words "no woman has a right to say no to me, the star of the universe." demigoddess May 2023 #30
"fortunately" for men like him... kentuck May 2023 #32
He has until 5pm... EndlessWire May 2023 #22
He is stupid and cunning. Farmer-Rick May 2023 #23
Trump is a thug. yardwork May 2023 #42
I wish that rock and a hard place would simply ... YoshidaYui May 2023 #26
As the ketchup flies. Swede May 2023 #35
TFG's third choice is to fly to Russia. KY_EnviroGuy May 2023 #37
Does anyone in Ireland or Scotland even like him? SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #43
As a nation of laws, they let us do this to scum like him. IbogaProject May 2023 #46

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
40. Yup!!!
Sun May 7, 2023, 08:47 PM
May 2023

I see it as evidence.

Nothing has shut that thing up ever.

May we all live to see Justice Served!

70sEraVet

(3,515 posts)
3. All he really has left, is to hold more rage-rallies.
Sun May 7, 2023, 12:19 PM
May 2023

He'll get his followers fired up enough to cause havoc and threaten the judge.

Mr.Bill

(24,330 posts)
4. I bet he waits until after the judge's deadline,
Sun May 7, 2023, 12:39 PM
May 2023

say tomorrow, and then says the judge refused to let him testify in his own defense.

Expect to hear that hundreds of times a day for the rest of the year if not the rest of his life. Also expect to hear that this is unconstitutional just as many times.

erronis

(15,339 posts)
7. Please, no. No mortal stroke. We demand him to be caged and kept alive as long as possible.
Sun May 7, 2023, 12:54 PM
May 2023

Perhaps there can be a T.V. channel dedicated to his cell. The default will be muted but audio can be turned on.

I'm guessing the T.V. camera lenses will need to be cleaned frequently because of poo-flinging.

housecat

(3,121 posts)
31. As much as I long for him to suffer in prison, he has to stop breathing. No emotional
Sun May 7, 2023, 02:36 PM
May 2023

revenge or torture will guarantee that he won't get out or just go back to hell where he came from

oldsoftie

(12,612 posts)
6. He just couldn't help himself in that deposition. He HAD to brag.
Sun May 7, 2023, 12:46 PM
May 2023

HAD to say it COULD be "fortunate" that a "star" like him can just grab pussy whenever he wants.

Captain Zero

(6,824 posts)
13. he also claimed EJC wasn't his type but in a line of photos he said that was 'Marla'
Sun May 7, 2023, 01:26 PM
May 2023
Marla Maples, one of his ex-whatevers, so in that instant, he identified her as his 'type' and insinuated that he could rape 'his type'.

His big mouth and small brain did him no favors. He will be convicted.

Maeve

(42,288 posts)
29. Joy Reid had the picture with a small pic of Marla with it
Sun May 7, 2023, 02:18 PM
May 2023

Yeah, they looked similar...Carroll was his "type" back then

2naSalit

(86,798 posts)
14. An additional thought on that...
Sun May 7, 2023, 01:33 PM
May 2023

He was interviewed by a woman, whom he already disrespects and sees as lacking his level of intellect. He was also mansplaining to her because, to him, she was too stupid to understand a man's desires and privilege.

I hope this costs him bigly.

lastlib

(23,290 posts)
24. Nail, meet hammer.
Sun May 7, 2023, 02:12 PM
May 2023

His arrogance, narcissism, misogyny and contempt for his questioner were on full display. The basturd did everything but thump his chest.

2naSalit

(86,798 posts)
27. Or wave...
Sun May 7, 2023, 02:15 PM
May 2023

His teenyweeny at her to impress her. I would have loved to see his reaction if he had been interviewed by someone he saw as his type. He probably would have tried to hit on her.

Disgusting pos. I can't watch him, too triggering.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
34. Couple of reveals
Sun May 7, 2023, 03:25 PM
May 2023

He seemed amused for a bit after listening to the Grab em recording

And

He seemed subtly obsessed with looming right into the camera.

Quakerfriend

(5,453 posts)
41. Yup, and it was a perfect opportunity for
Mon May 8, 2023, 09:57 AM
May 2023

the person taking his deposition to ask “Do you
consider yourself fortunate for being able to grab
women by the p— , as you did?”

Instead she asks, “Do you consider yourself a star?”

What the hell????

Hekate

(90,828 posts)
44. Her question readily translates to: "Are you entitled by stardom to assault women?" His answer...
Mon May 8, 2023, 12:02 PM
May 2023

…just as readily translates to: “Yes, yes I am.”

Not hard at all.


bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
45. Nah, she set the trap and he took the bait. Couldn't resist.
Mon May 8, 2023, 12:05 PM
May 2023

Had she asked him point blank about the ** grabbing, he would probably have dismissed it or made a joke about it. By zeroing in on the “star” part of the quote, she forced his hand. He had to admit he considers himself a “star” and damned himself by his own words. It was a well played assault on his narcissism and vanity.

GoCubsGo

(32,094 posts)
8. Trump always makes things worse for Trump.
Sun May 7, 2023, 12:55 PM
May 2023

I think he also thought he could turn steal of the attention away from the coronation. Which he did to some extent, but not in a good way. What an idiot.

Granted, I also suspect that he only went there because Biden was just there, and he thought he was going to get a better reception than Biden did, which he would then shove in Biden's face. Ooops.

Tetrachloride

(7,874 posts)
11. Give Trump until 4 am to decide. Then he will be awake all night. Tweeting in a hot sweat.
Sun May 7, 2023, 01:23 PM
May 2023

Then if he shows up in court, perhaps his makeup and hair dye and the toupee will run.

multigraincracker

(32,726 posts)
12. No big deal for him. Not going to jail
Sun May 7, 2023, 01:23 PM
May 2023

Only has to pay $250K, which nothing if you area Star. He had to pay $25M for his fake university.
Now let’s get to Georgia and NY and look at some bars and a jump suit.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
20. Just a point on the Trump University settlement...
Sun May 7, 2023, 02:01 PM
May 2023

He had to pay $25 million in settlement, but he made about $75 to $80 million off the scam. He still came out far ahead.

CanonRay

(14,118 posts)
21. That's white collar crime in America
Sun May 7, 2023, 02:07 PM
May 2023

Steal a million, keep half and admit no guilt. Rinse and repeat.

prodigitalson

(2,431 posts)
18. honestly, I thought he had a pretty good chance of beating this until I saw his exercise in logic
Sun May 7, 2023, 01:57 PM
May 2023

Stars are entitled to grab women by the pussy

I am a star

Therefore...........

demigoddess

(6,645 posts)
30. in other words "no woman has a right to say no to me, the star of the universe."
Sun May 7, 2023, 02:24 PM
May 2023

Ergo, I have to right to rape anyone I please.

great argument in a court of law. sarcasm.

EndlessWire

(6,569 posts)
22. He has until 5pm...
Sun May 7, 2023, 02:09 PM
May 2023

Pacific or Atlantic? I think he has until 2pm my time. This is just to tell the Court that they are going to file a motion on Monday. Amirite? So, he has an opportunity to manipulate the proceedings. Tell the Court he is, but then file a late motion in order to get the Judge to deny him the right to speak. Then appeal on that.

The way it could go, depending on how long it takes the Judge to instruct the jury, is...we could have a verdict by Monday night! More likely Tuesday, but I'll bet it doesn't take the jury very long to decide. There should be a bingo card. I'll take 2 hours. And, that's only if Donald testifies. Otherwise, one hour.

Farmer-Rick

(10,212 posts)
23. He is stupid and cunning.
Sun May 7, 2023, 02:10 PM
May 2023

That deposition is very revealing. I got a much better idea of what kind of person Trump really is. People who call him stupid are not wrong. The man reacts on gut feelings and doesn't think through what he says. He doesn't know basic facts that most people would have known.

But what gives him a veneer of intelligence is that he is cunning. He was too stupid to be able to identify the woman accusing him in a photo (His lawyers had all the evidence, they should have briefed him on who was in the photo....well maybe they did and he was to stupid to remember.)

But he threw in that the photo was blurry and that's why he couldn't identify his wife from his accuser. He knew he made a mistake and he had to cover it up with a lie. Most people would not be so quick to lie over their mistakes like that. Several other times as the woman he clearly didn't like questioned him, he threw in insults and lies quickly and succinctly.

He tries to be intimidating and aggressive looking for every opportunity to insult and denigrate. But his stupidity doesn't let him know he comes across unlikable which won't help him with the jury.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
37. TFG's third choice is to fly to Russia.
Sun May 7, 2023, 04:04 PM
May 2023

That would get my vote if he'll just stay.

But then again, it might be worse for us if he went to work on Russian media.....

Brilliant move by the Judge!........

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
43. Does anyone in Ireland or Scotland even like him?
Mon May 8, 2023, 11:42 AM
May 2023

Every time I hear someone speak about him from those countries, it isn't favorable.

IbogaProject

(2,841 posts)
46. As a nation of laws, they let us do this to scum like him.
Mon May 8, 2023, 12:16 PM
May 2023

Provided you spend enough time and money any rich scum will eventually get his comeuppance.

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