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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat % of gun violence victims/witnesses are/become in favor of regulation?
Do all of these shootings change any minds, even of victims and/or their families? Or the hundreds of terrified bystanders? Does anyone know?
Irish_Dem
(47,434 posts)So we don't know much about any of this.
By GOP design.
No, really, what??
CrispyQ
(36,520 posts)The gun worship in this country is sick.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)it's true
DemocraticPatriot
(4,413 posts)A link to something would be very nice here.
What you say sounds quite credible, but I would like to know more.
Irish_Dem
(47,434 posts)Prevented federal funds for gun related research.
Once you get politicians taking action like this it is a chilling
effect and no PhD wants to get into trouble with funding sources
or politicians.
University Chairs tell PhD students to stop pursuing certain
research topics. And your advisor won't approve those topics.
ETA At one point the GOP wanted to pass a law saying that psychologists
could not ask patients about guns in the home. Despite the fact we know that the
presence of a gun in the home of a depressed patient dramatically increases
the risk of suicide. So yes the professional community has had their hands
tied a great deal by politicians.
DemocraticPatriot
(4,413 posts)Thank you, Irish.
Irish_Dem
(47,434 posts)Yes we couldn't study anything to do with guns.
Too risky as we would lose funding.
Or break the law.
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taxi
(1,896 posts)This makes it difficult for policymakers to fully understand the problem and create solutions to fix it.
This lack of federal funding largely is due to the 1996 Dickey amendment, which specifies that none
of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention (CDC) may be used to advocate or promote gun control. In 2011, Congress extended this
restrictive language to other health agencies, including the National Institutes of Health (NIH). These
actions created a chilling effect, significantly curtailing the amount of gun violence research that has
been performed at the federal level.
https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/0061b4e8-6a15-4bea-b9c4-a99ede7180f2/gun-violence-backgrounder-final.pdf
Irish_Dem
(47,434 posts)so it has a widespread chilling effect everywhere.
What university is going to get into trouble with the NIH and CDC?
And federal lawmakers?
taxi
(1,896 posts)causes of gun violence also allows policymakers to hypothesize about solutions to gun violence that
may not be supported by actual data. This prevents an informed debate from taking place and further
polarizes the issue of preventing gun violence.
Irish_Dem
(47,434 posts)And that is the whole GOP point about stopping research.
SYFROYH
(34,183 posts)I think you're confusing what you think with the 1996 Dickey Amendment that prohibited the CDC promoting or advocating for gun control
Irish_Dem
(47,434 posts)Perhaps you are confused as you do not understand how NIH and CDC
research grants work in real life.
So when the CDC and NIH are hit with a ban, it impacts universities which
do not want to lose federal dollars.
No university department chair wants to cross federal politicians or
lose money. That shifts down to doctoral students and non tenured faculty
who do not want to cross the department chair.
More basic logic: Gun violence is one of the most serious
and profound issues of 21st century America. It is a major threat to the
stability of our country, a huge social, cultural, political, public health issue.
Gun violence has been going on for some time.
One would think there would be a huge body of literature across many
university departments: sociology, political science, public health, medicine,
psychology, etc etc. With extensive public discussion about how to tackle this
problem at all levels of politics, government and academia.
If this all exists and I don't know it, well then perhaps I am confused.
I welcome being unconfused with any facts you may have.
SYFROYH
(34,183 posts)There was never an accusation that I know of retaliation and losing federal funds for other projects because universities used other sources.
I work at a university. I've known public health and social science faculty who did gun violence research and there was never any issue with concern about federal funding.
The CDC budget that was zeroed out was only $2.6 million. Not a lot.
You're supposition that there should be more research out there is just that. Not logic.
Scrivener7
(51,015 posts)intrepidity
(7,336 posts)I don't get it.
Irish_Dem
(47,434 posts)Septua
(2,260 posts)This was the latest poll I could find and is left-handed to your question, asking if people are satisfied with current gun regulations. And more people are dissatisfied.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/470588/dissatisfaction-gun-laws-hits-new-high.aspx
Irish_Dem
(47,434 posts)It is a complex issue and needs in-depth scholarly study.
brewens
(13,622 posts)after they get COVID. Not enough though.