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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGotta give Joe Scarborough some credit.
He's been on the right side of the gun problem. First 15 minutes of his show tonight was good.
Of course, the gunhumpers who need to see it, and who need to see the carnage, won't.
Rebl2
(17,925 posts)on every Monday night?
Me.
(35,454 posts)is this a test run? Not a 'fan' but he has done 2 good shows so far.
SheilaAnn
(10,779 posts)bringthePaine
(1,806 posts)dchill
(42,660 posts)moonscape
(5,796 posts)thread. 5 minutes in and his delivery is a painful turn-off. Just cant with him.
Surely hope this isnt a trial balloon for Joe in Primetime. And unlike some who,dont like Hayes, I really do. Hope no change is afoot.
Buckeyeblue
(6,439 posts)Joe sounds every bit the snake that we think he is. I know crazies like Joe that pretend to be neutral or act like they are trying to understand a tough issue while they attempt to lead you, in a very low key reasonable way, to their crazy way of thinking. That's because they are all part of the cult trying to make hate and bigotry the "reasonable" position.
UTUSN
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Ilsa
(64,563 posts)Mika just wants to show off her legs.
UTUSN
(77,795 posts)Last edited Tue May 9, 2023, 02:48 PM - Edit history (2)
It dates to 2012 in Vanity Fair (article I haven't read). The date is pertinent to the timeline of the relationship, but I digress. Back to what I see: Her (being posed) pose is titilating, salacious (my definitions), she/directly addressing him, he/engaging the viewer with a conspiratorial intimation. Since the title of the article is "Hot Ticket" the overt sexuality is a "joking" excuse to pose them that way.
*** I was an early viewer of MSNBC - monitored especially Tweety (that's Chris MATTHEWS for those too young here) - and was drawn by the Microsoft and NBC appeal to Libs in its supposed concept. I liked the afternoon program of three young women, especially Ashleigh BANFIELD (who later was hounded out by I-think the "Savage" WEINER), but don't remember that Mika was one of the three as Wiki says, made no impression on me.
So Tweety hosted SCABS a lot and I guess shepherded him into his own show, where Mika became the sort of unequal news reader. All I knew was that she had been some kind of junior (intern?) for Dan RATHER, and she was definitely treated as a junior here. My observation was that SCABS verbally and emotionally abused her, but also the poor weatherman who was just a working pro, but also Andrea MITCHELL. But it was way worse on Mika, who always seemed to be on the verge of tears as she tried to do the readings while he shut her down and talked down contemptuously. And yet she was pleading for simple respect, which led me to start calling her "Mika Mouse."
Things sort of toned down and then gossip happened that something was "up" between them. There was a long period when it was unspoken but acknowledged, with all the other regulars sort of alluding. Then it was out in the open as a relationship, then "engagement" and marriage. SCABS had turned into a solicitous, deferential "partner" to her, turning from treating her as a subordinate. So all that happened and with the marriage came her self-proclaimed persona as a champion for empowered women, her books about women being assertive in demanding equal status and pay, with my Irony radar dinging that she had gotten where she got by putting herself on the block.
*** So now seeing the Wiki for the first time, the timeline is that the affair started way back in 2010 and seems to have been a factor in her divorce. So back to the picture, the date of 2012 is during the affair and before the divorce. What else is not to be understood?
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https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2012/10/joe-scarborough-mika-presidential-run
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mika_Brzezinski
.... ... In 2001, Brzezinski began a short hiatus from CBS News, during which she worked for rival MSNBC on the weekday afternoon show, HomePage, with co-anchors Gina Gaston and Ashleigh Banfield.[6] Entertainment Weekly described the trio as "the Powerpuff Girls of journalism".[6] ....
... "Mika, the 'hot anchor' was born. The producers slowly encouraged my participation in news reader segments that I was more at ease with. Geist and Joe slowly found me a capable news reader and the expansion of my role was a process. I was not pleased with the reference to being the 'hot anchor'."[7] ....
On October 23, 1993, Brzezinski married TV news reporter James Patrick Hoffer, now of WABC-TV.[34] They met when both worked at WTIC-TV. They have two daughters, Emilie and Carlie Hoffer. Hoffer and Brzezinski divorced in 2016 amidst allegations of an affair that started years prior in 2010, between Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough.[35]
In early 2017, Brzezinski became engaged to her co-host Joe Scarborough, and they were married on November 24, 2018, in Washington, D.C., with Rep. Elijah Cummings serving as the officiant.[36][37][38] ....
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Ilsa
(64,563 posts)and was an esrly watcher here and there. Tweety got on my nerves frequently. I was amazed Joe Scar could be so smug with only 4-6 years in Congress. Someone must have taken him down a peg, and Mika must be very forgiving. She always seemed to be too much the adoring daughter, overly so, so maybe subservience was normal for her.