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Nevilledog

(51,200 posts)
Mon May 8, 2023, 11:08 PM May 2023

Neighbor shoots 14-year-old as kids play hide and seek outside, Louisiana cops say

https://www.sunherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article275197271.html

A 14-year-old was shot in the head as she played hide and seek, Louisiana deputies say.

Now a neighbor is facing multiple charges. David V. Doyle, 58, was arrested Sunday, May 7, after the Calcasieu Parish Sheriff’s Office said he opened fire on a group of kids playing on his property and “unknowingly hit the girl.”

Deputies were called about a shooting at a home in Starks early that morning, authorities wrote in a news release. They arrived to find a teen who was shot in the back of the head.

Several kids were playing in the area and used a neighbor’s property to hide, according to the sheriff’s office. The property owner, identified as Doyle, told deputies he went inside and grabbed his gun after he saw shadows outside his home, the release said. Doyle said when he went back outside, he saw several people running from his property and opened fire.

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Neighbor shoots 14-year-old as kids play hide and seek outside, Louisiana cops say (Original Post) Nevilledog May 2023 OP
I like how he openly admits he saw people Wingus Dingus May 2023 #1
He opened fire on a group of kids and "unknowingly" shot one. Depraved indiference. marble falls May 2023 #2
The "unknowingly" is cop shorthand for "white shooter" Nevilledog May 2023 #3
+1, uponit7771 May 2023 #6
+2 Vdizzle May 2023 #17
+1 dalton99a May 2023 #18
It gives the white shooter a defense. AZLD4Candidate May 2023 #19
When gumpers have to wipe their butts do they get their guns and start shooting at it ?! JUS DAMN .. uponit7771 May 2023 #4
imagine the paranoia and cowardice in a man who shoots because he saw shadows Skittles May 2023 #5
They are literally jumping at shadows. And now shooting at them. Aristus May 2023 #27
We've gone over the edge with guns. Gun humpers are very willing to open fire at shadows now. brush May 2023 #7
Kids playing usually comes with sounds of laughter and noise. Deuxcents May 2023 #8
He won't. He's white. Aristus May 2023 #28
This is too fucked up for words. Republicans have created a country that is paranoid Maraya1969 May 2023 #9
". . . . he saw several people running -from- his property and opened fire. . . . ." Stinky The Clown May 2023 #10
David Doyle also afraid of his own shadow, quick where's my's gun. I gotta shot at it MagickMuffin May 2023 #11
When I think back to the games we played with our cousins when visiting our grandparents... RockRaven May 2023 #12
Same Here NowISeetheLight May 2023 #23
When I was a child, all the neighborhood kids used to have "gun wars" DemocraticPatriot May 2023 #13
Shot as they were running AWAY aeromanKC May 2023 #14
Another older, white man...go figure. BigmanPigman May 2023 #15
FB memes Old Crank May 2023 #16
Neighbor? Really? SalamanderSleeps May 2023 #20
Not that it really matters but it was early morning. Phoenix61 May 2023 #21
The earlier post on the link is about a mass shooting at a local grantcart May 2023 #22
Again, I ask... Happy Hoosier May 2023 #24
WTF is wrong with these people? Shooting at shadows? They aren't even bothering Vinca May 2023 #25
Absolutely tired of guns Johonny May 2023 #26
"Kids don't play outside no more! They just always inside lookin' at their phones!" Aristus May 2023 #29
Lock the trigger happy sob up and throw away the key. Emile May 2023 #30
I beginning to think there are no good guys with guns Marius25 May 2023 #31
Well, then you would be wrong. MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #32
Everyone is a sensible gun owner until they're not. Marius25 May 2023 #33
Wow!!!! MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #34
They ban certain types of guns. Marius25 May 2023 #35
Yes they can, MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #37
There is no one on this site that is standing in YOUR way. Haggis 4 Breakfast May 2023 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #48
There's no need for that kind of response. Haggis 4 Breakfast May 2023 #49
I Fully Agree Y'all! MayReasonRule May 2023 #39
Ah... A "True Scottsman" Has Entered The Chat MayReasonRule May 2023 #38
Everyone is a law-abiding citizen until they're not. Jedi Guy May 2023 #43
Most civilized countries have restrictions on most of these types of guns Marius25 May 2023 #44
so many reasons i would be dead if i were a kid now dembotoz May 2023 #36
I would rather be in a woods infested with responsible hunters Pharlo May 2023 #40
So this is the 2023 Republican version of, "You damn kids, get offa my lawn!" Martin68 May 2023 #41
when I was ten, we played with toy guns. I found it boring. demigoddess May 2023 #42
Kids finally want to play outside, yet get shot by the neighbors stollen May 2023 #45
Fired. At people running away. edisdead May 2023 #47

Wingus Dingus

(8,059 posts)
1. I like how he openly admits he saw people
Mon May 8, 2023, 11:10 PM
May 2023

RUNNING AWAY from his property, and still opened fire. He knew they were not a threat. Psycho.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,768 posts)
19. It gives the white shooter a defense.
Tue May 9, 2023, 01:11 AM
May 2023

Black shorter will get different adjectives and adverbs to sink them.

Remember that Louisiana was home to some of the harshest, most brutal black codes ever after the Civil War and in the Jim Crow era.

Tigers never change their stripes.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
4. When gumpers have to wipe their butts do they get their guns and start shooting at it ?! JUS DAMN ..
Mon May 8, 2023, 11:15 PM
May 2023

... "got a problem? Well shoot it then" is now GQP moto, they want to solve damn near every issue with a gun!!!

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
27. They are literally jumping at shadows. And now shooting at them.
Tue May 9, 2023, 09:36 AM
May 2023

"Ah carry m'gunz 'coz Ah ain't gonna live in FEAR!"

No, you carry guns because you are a gutless coward!

brush

(53,871 posts)
7. We've gone over the edge with guns. Gun humpers are very willing to open fire at shadows now.
Mon May 8, 2023, 11:25 PM
May 2023

Don't ring the wrong doorbell, or touch the wrong car door handle, turn into the wrong driveway.

Armed dystopia is here.

Thanks, republicans.

Deuxcents

(16,341 posts)
8. Kids playing usually comes with sounds of laughter and noise.
Mon May 8, 2023, 11:35 PM
May 2023

Kids overlapping into this man’s yard is hardly life threatening. He should stay inside and call the cops if he must but, seriously? Shooting at the kids? I hope the girl is alright and this guy spends some quite time behind bars. Too many damn guns.

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
28. He won't. He's white.
Tue May 9, 2023, 09:37 AM
May 2023

He'll get a slap on the wrist and an "I'm very disappointed in you, sir" speech from the judge.

Maraya1969

(22,500 posts)
9. This is too fucked up for words. Republicans have created a country that is paranoid
Mon May 8, 2023, 11:37 PM
May 2023

and gun humping happy. And so of course people are going to be shooting at shadows!


Even this old guy is probably a victim. He was encouraged to buy the fucking gun and to use it - in the "Stand your ground" states.

Everyone needs to start getting sued. In this case I'd say the girl's family could sue for the recklessness of her fucking gun humping legislators.

Stinky The Clown

(67,819 posts)
10. ". . . . he saw several people running -from- his property and opened fire. . . . ."
Mon May 8, 2023, 11:40 PM
May 2023

Shooting children in the back. How special.

MagickMuffin

(15,953 posts)
11. David Doyle also afraid of his own shadow, quick where's my's gun. I gotta shot at it
Mon May 8, 2023, 11:46 PM
May 2023



Guns the answer to all life's inconstancies.


Bang Bang!

RockRaven

(15,003 posts)
12. When I think back to the games we played with our cousins when visiting our grandparents...
Mon May 8, 2023, 11:55 PM
May 2023

Hide and Seek, Kick the Can, whatever... If I were the same age, in the same situation, at the same address/neighborhood, I wouldn't do it. I'd be afraid of this happening.

What a fucking disgrace this country is nowadays.

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
23. Same Here
Tue May 9, 2023, 03:49 AM
May 2023

I used to sneak out, meet friends, and wander around in the middle of the night. Looking back it it today it was really stupid. The kind of things kids do. You don’t deserve to get shot for it.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,413 posts)
13. When I was a child, all the neighborhood kids used to have "gun wars"
Tue May 9, 2023, 12:17 AM
May 2023

over most of one block of our street, in the front yards and in the back-- wherever fences did not block our progress.

This was in the late 1960s and early 1970s...

Many of us were "well-armed" with toy guns, long before they started mandating that toy guns have the orange-thing at the end of the gun barrel..


We called it, "playing guns". Or sometimes, "war".


God knows, none of us would have survived, if we made such play today.... when real guns are much more numerous, and armed persons are much more paranoid...

I miss those more innocent times...

and we ran wild over the neighborhood on our bikes, for several blocks away from home.
Do any parents allow such things today, if they can control it ?


My best friend's father owned a "gun shop", which he began running out of his basement, but later established a commercial location... and his household was also an arsenal of 'toy guns' for his children....

I recall one instance, in the midst of our childish 'gun wars', where I ran into their house looking for additional arms, and made a motion to pick up his gun, which he had laid upon the kitchen table... (As a gun dealer, he was licensed to carry, at a time when such licenses were much more difficult to obtain... He had very recently come home for dinner, and removed his firearm which was probably his habit).

Luckily he was paying attention and said, "NO!!!! THAT IS REAL!!!!"


If I had actually picked it up, I suspect that I would have realized that "something was wrong"--- because of the heavier weight of the real loaded handgun, compared with any toy gun---- but I don't know for certain.

It is possible that I could have killed my best friend, if the father had been distracted, or I was less savvy...








BigmanPigman

(51,630 posts)
15. Another older, white man...go figure.
Tue May 9, 2023, 12:40 AM
May 2023

Scared shitless over anyone other than another older, white man telling him what he can and can't do with their "librul laws"

Old Crank

(3,628 posts)
16. FB memes
Tue May 9, 2023, 12:46 AM
May 2023

About kids on their devices instead of playing outside like when I was a kid.
Seems to be the safest thing to do these days.

SalamanderSleeps

(591 posts)
20. Neighbor? Really?
Tue May 9, 2023, 01:58 AM
May 2023

Good neighbors just don't go blasting away in the dark.

Unless they are a Fox News watching neighbor.

God bless basic cable.

fuck.

Phoenix61

(17,019 posts)
21. Not that it really matters but it was early morning.
Tue May 9, 2023, 02:18 AM
May 2023

I have little doubt he knows those kids and was pissed they were on his property. Takes, “Get off my grass” to a whole new level. Sick fuck.

Happy Hoosier

(7,392 posts)
24. Again, I ask...
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:34 AM
May 2023

WTF did the assholes think was going to happen when they passed essentially unfettered access to to firearms and laws lowering the bar for the use of firearms in "self defense."

This kind of thing was 100% predictable and we predicted it.

Vinca

(50,304 posts)
25. WTF is wrong with these people? Shooting at shadows? They aren't even bothering
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:51 AM
May 2023

to identify whatever might be running in the yard before opening fire . . . which they shouldn't do either. Shadows don't hurt you.

Johonny

(20,889 posts)
26. Absolutely tired of guns
Tue May 9, 2023, 09:32 AM
May 2023

and the people that own and use them. I'm beyond the good gun owner bit at this point. Guns kill people and I'm just tired of all this shit.

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
29. "Kids don't play outside no more! They just always inside lookin' at their phones!"
Tue May 9, 2023, 09:38 AM
May 2023

Gee, I wonder why...

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,449 posts)
32. Well, then you would be wrong.
Tue May 9, 2023, 09:56 AM
May 2023

I, along with many DUer's here, own firearms and are responsible owners who wholeheartedly back sensible firearm laws.

I own 1 firearm, a Colt .45 which is kept in a lock box at a friends home when I'm on the road, otherwise, it's in my 5th wheel when not on the road.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,449 posts)
34. Wow!!!!
Tue May 9, 2023, 10:02 AM
May 2023

That was deep.
Everyone is...........oh, never mind, not worth it.

Ban guns like all sane countries.


Do you realize just how ridiculous that statement there sounds?

Canada, Australia, Great Britain, etc, are all sane countries and they haven't banned all firearms, they're tightly regulated, but not banned.

Next?
 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
35. They ban certain types of guns.
Tue May 9, 2023, 10:05 AM
May 2023

Handguns are banned in the UK. Only shotguns and hunting rifles are allowed with a license.

Australia has no legal right to own a firearm. The only way you can get one is with a specific need approved by the government.


And we should tightly regulate ours, but that will never happen because this country is garbage.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,449 posts)
37. Yes they can,
Tue May 9, 2023, 10:14 AM
May 2023

they don't have a RW SCOTUS like we do, but it will change, it'll be up to my grand children and great grandchildren's generation, I won't be around to see it, but it's coming.

And we should tightly regulate ours, but that will never happen because this country is garbage.


You may think this country is garbage, but I and millions of others think otherwise and are working to better it, so if that's what you think, then get the hell out of the way of those of us willing to do the hard lifting.

Haggis 4 Breakfast

(1,454 posts)
46. There is no one on this site that is standing in YOUR way.
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:50 PM
May 2023

Many of us are tired of the never-ending fight. Life should not have to be a fight every day. Yet that is what it has become for some. Many here feel that the joy has been sucked out of our nation and that little seems to change, even for those of us who have been "in the fight" for the long haul. There comes a time when it is difficult to not become down-hearted. As more and more states are loosening up gun laws - despite the mass murders EVERY SINGLE GODDAM DAY - it feels like we are living in a time where nothing makes sense because we are NOT even close to common sense gun laws.

History has shown us that the pendulem always swings back, but I, too, feel as if my soul is dying by a thousand cuts.

I understand how the other poster feels. Sometimes it is just so overwhelming. And hope seems so far away. Instead of attacking someone who is feeling lost - and you did - try to seen the pain in their post.

Response to Haggis 4 Breakfast (Reply #46)

Haggis 4 Breakfast

(1,454 posts)
49. There's no need for that kind of response.
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:59 PM
May 2023

You are entitled to your opinion, Marine. And constructive back and forth often helps people see more sides of the conversation. I was hoping that you would understand that. Guess I wasted my time.

Just an old sailor drifting by . . . but, I'll keep tacking left.

Jedi Guy

(3,254 posts)
43. Everyone is a law-abiding citizen until they're not.
Tue May 9, 2023, 04:32 PM
May 2023

We'd better preemptively lock everyone up for life, just in case. Then we'll finally be safe.

Less flippantly, there's a conversation to be bad (among reasonable people, at least) for universal background checks, bans of certain kinds of guns/magazines, and similar sensible gun control laws.

But coming at it from the angle of "all gun owners are mass shooters in waiting" isn't going to further your cause, nor is loudly advocating for a full ban on all guns. Neither is helpful, each in its own particular way.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
44. Most civilized countries have restrictions on most of these types of guns
Tue May 9, 2023, 04:36 PM
May 2023

The US, however, is not a civilized country.

Pharlo

(1,818 posts)
40. I would rather be in a woods infested with responsible hunters
Tue May 9, 2023, 11:15 AM
May 2023

who believe you must make visual contact to verify what you are shooting at, than walking down a sidewalk in the middle of the day with some of these deranged gun nuts around.

Yes, hunting accidents do occur, but not with this degree of frequency. But then, all of the hunters i know - and I know a lot of them - have all taken a gun safety course. And as their kids get old enough to go hunting, they take the course again with the kid(s). I know some parents who have taken it 4 times. Once when they started hunting and again each time one of the kids started hunting.

stollen

(419 posts)
45. Kids finally want to play outside, yet get shot by the neighbors
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:46 PM
May 2023

Best to stay inside and play video games in this dangerous country, particularly in the South

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