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Beachnutt

(7,324 posts)
Tue May 9, 2023, 02:30 PM May 2023

Do the American people know this?

Rethugs passed an unfunded $2.3 TRILLION corporate tax cut under trump, then raised the debt ceiling (with NO preconditions) 3 times while ballooning the deficit, and NOW under Biden they’re refusing to pay THEIR bills?

The people need to know this.

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Do the American people know this? (Original Post) Beachnutt May 2023 OP
the Memory Hole maxsolomon May 2023 #1
And the Media Hole. ancianita May 2023 #11
"flibberdigibbet" FoxNewsSucks May 2023 #14
I first heard it from Oscar Ilsa May 2023 #34
Typical behavior for them, though. 2naSalit May 2023 #2
This has been the pattern for a long time. Irish_Dem May 2023 #3
I think not enough Americans know this. I believe many people are under the misconception that LoisB May 2023 #4
This is mostly due to FUX NOOZE propaganda, and LACK of "news". BComplex May 2023 #8
I am afraid you are right. LoisB May 2023 #9
A few do, a lot forgot, but even more never knew. -nt CrispyQ May 2023 #5
Those fuckers Blue Owl May 2023 #6
And they need to know it as succinctly as you stated it. BComplex May 2023 #7
Redleg's First Rule of Political Behavior Redleg May 2023 #10
No, the#1 rule ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #36
I SURE they saw it on Fox! dchill May 2023 #12
Sadly the fascist media is busy trying to prop up their lyin king. onecaliberal May 2023 #13
McCarthy has been Quanto Magnus May 2023 #15
Only if they ignore broadcast news and get their news in print Warpy May 2023 #16
The facts are there for all to see and know. lark2 May 2023 #17
Unfortunately... WarGamer May 2023 #18
You could fill the Grand Canyon with things the American public should know but does not. Moostache May 2023 #19
Are democrats not screaming it from the rooftops? OneBro May 2023 #20
Biden's press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre has mentioned it (probably several times) BumRushDaShow May 2023 #21
Anyone who has been paying attention for the past ten years knows this. So, no Ray Bruns May 2023 #22
ronald ray gun slashed and burned ca . took us 30 years to clean up his mess. AllaN01Bear May 2023 #23
He was worse than most people reaiize housecat May 2023 #25
The people need to hear this over and over and over before it's too late housecat May 2023 #24
Yes I Rebl2 May 2023 #26
They've done this BS for 30 years. BigmanPigman May 2023 #27
Republicans are Mblaze May 2023 #28
Lot's Of People Know modrepub May 2023 #29
There's a reason for that ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #37
k& highly recommended bagimin May 2023 #30
File this under "Things Fox News Won't Tell You." Sogo May 2023 #31
Excellent! You are so right - People need to know! liberalla May 2023 #32
K&R usonian May 2023 #33
We should have a thread in DU about all the things the Repugs don't know... flying_wahini May 2023 #35
This👇 Roy Rolling May 2023 #38
☝️Exactly Beachnutt May 2023 #39
But, but, but... look, there are hundreds of new millionaires... Justice matters. May 2023 #40
You've simplified it clearly enough that we can ALL use it! calimary May 2023 #41

maxsolomon

(33,342 posts)
1. the Memory Hole
Tue May 9, 2023, 02:35 PM
May 2023

this is what Dems were screaming when it was passed.

but Mericans are flibberdigibbets who are too busy murdering each other to remember.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
14. "flibberdigibbet"
Tue May 9, 2023, 03:46 PM
May 2023

someone at work used that term last week. I had to look it up.

Never heard it before, now twice in just a few days. . .

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
34. I first heard it from Oscar
Wed May 10, 2023, 12:30 AM
May 2023

and Hammerstein:

How do you solve a problem like Maria?
How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?
How do you find a word that means Maria?
A flibbertijibbet! A will-o'-the wisp! A clown!


From The Sound of Music.

Irish_Dem

(47,053 posts)
3. This has been the pattern for a long time.
Tue May 9, 2023, 02:36 PM
May 2023

The GOP robs the US Treasury blind and then blames the Dems and makes them
fix it.

LoisB

(7,206 posts)
4. I think not enough Americans know this. I believe many people are under the misconception that
Tue May 9, 2023, 02:36 PM
May 2023

raising the debt ceiling allows for more spending, not for paying the bills already accrued. I think they think it is like getting an increased credit line on one's credit card...now you can spend more.

BComplex

(8,050 posts)
8. This is mostly due to FUX NOOZE propaganda, and LACK of "news".
Tue May 9, 2023, 02:43 PM
May 2023

Until they shut down fux nooze as a terrorist organization, which I believe it is, we're going to have really uninformed, angry assholes shooting everyone they have an issue with.

Quanto Magnus

(895 posts)
15. McCarthy has been
Tue May 9, 2023, 04:12 PM
May 2023

claiming they made cuts with those debt ceiling raises....

Unfortunately, he's intentionally muddying the waters to give him leverage now and no one is calling him on that...

Warpy

(111,256 posts)
16. Only if they ignore broadcast news and get their news in print
Tue May 9, 2023, 04:18 PM
May 2023

and preferably from multiple sources.

No, the noise blatting out of the TV set didn't inform them. Maybe Maddow or some of the others on MSNBC mentioned it, but that's as far as it went.

Oh, they saw their own tax cuts and rejoiced. Nobody told them about the fine print on those, either, and they have now mostly ended.

lark2

(119 posts)
17. The facts are there for all to see and know.
Tue May 9, 2023, 04:19 PM
May 2023

Some are so blind they cannot recognize the truth - including all MAGATS in that bucket.

WarGamer

(12,441 posts)
18. Unfortunately...
Tue May 9, 2023, 04:21 PM
May 2023

I think the VAST majority of Americans think that the US prints cash when it needs it and that's that.

I think you'd shock a chunk of the population to tell them otherwise.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
19. You could fill the Grand Canyon with things the American public should know but does not.
Tue May 9, 2023, 04:39 PM
May 2023

That is 100% by design to promote and promulgate minority rule in a country that demographically and ideologically HATES one of the two parties and tolerates the other.

In any sane universe, Donald Trump would not be a viable political candidate, he would be an impeached and convicted traitor/ex-president, barred from ever again holding office or trust under the United States and in very real peril of conviction for seditious conspiracy and life in prison sentencing.

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
20. Are democrats not screaming it from the rooftops?
Tue May 9, 2023, 04:47 PM
May 2023

It isn’t a complicated issue as you so succinctly described it, but what little I’ve heard from our Democratic leadership on public radio leaves me thinking the public does NOT know about that background information.

I don’t watch tv, so I was just hoping above hope that our messaging is better there.

BumRushDaShow

(128,963 posts)
21. Biden's press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre has mentioned it (probably several times)
Tue May 9, 2023, 04:50 PM
May 2023


(the above was done May 2, 2023)

Ray Bruns

(4,095 posts)
22. Anyone who has been paying attention for the past ten years knows this. So, no
Tue May 9, 2023, 05:07 PM
May 2023

most Americans don’t know this.

AllaN01Bear

(18,201 posts)
23. ronald ray gun slashed and burned ca . took us 30 years to clean up his mess.
Tue May 9, 2023, 05:21 PM
May 2023

rs . cut everything . make a mess of everything. then dems have to clean the sandbox. move along, nothing to see here .

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
27. They've done this BS for 30 years.
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:16 PM
May 2023

And the moronic Americans do not have a memory of a gnat. Every fucking time a GQP is POTUS the Dems rescue the economy but the near sighted GQP idiots who vote either don't realize it (purposeful ignorance) or they choose to dismiss it.

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
29. Lot's Of People Know
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:23 PM
May 2023

I usually scroll through article comments and am (pleasantly) surprised at how may folks chime in how Republic tax cuts account for a lot of the debt. It's the M$M that can't seem to ask any Republic representative about how their tax cuts contributed to the debt problems our country faces. The only thing that seems (on their) table is cuts in spending.

In a more perfect world, Congressionally passed tax cuts or spending would be automatically rescinded if tax receipts couldn't pay for them.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
37. There's a reason for that
Wed May 10, 2023, 03:03 AM
May 2023
It's the M$M that can't seem to ask any Republic representative about how their tax cuts contributed to the debt problems our country faces.


It's not that they can't ask, but because they won't. Not as long as the MSM are in the income bracket to benefit from those very tax cuts.

People forget that these talking head traitors are among the 1%.

They will never speak up about it, because they won't stop that sweet, sweet tax cut $$$$$$ rolling in for them.

flying_wahini

(6,594 posts)
35. We should have a thread in DU about all the things the Repugs don't know...
Wed May 10, 2023, 12:44 AM
May 2023

It would go on forever and ever….

Justice matters.

(6,928 posts)
40. But, but, but... look, there are hundreds of new millionaires...
Wed May 10, 2023, 10:52 AM
May 2023

and a few* new billionaires so that's the proof our Corrupt Capitalist system works

* out of over 330 million citizens...

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