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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJoe Tacopina: "Donald Trump is not convicted of rape", just convicted of pussy grabbing.
Of course the second part of the sentence was my addition but it is the only logical conclusion that he could have put forth had he been asked "what was he convicted of?".
Beachnutt
(8,909 posts)it was just sexual abuse.
Ocelot II
(130,533 posts)Nobody gets convicted of anything in a civil trial. He was found liable for sexual assault, not rape, only because Carroll couldn't tell whether TFG used his tiny fingers or his tiny dick. Nothing to brag about.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Ocelot II
(130,533 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)OK not guilty of A but guilty of B.
What is really really remarkable is how JT and DT have resuscitated the Access Hollywood tape and given it a second life. Not only are they replaying it multiple times but they have his deposition confirming it and a jury saying "BINGO".
All in all its a rather remarkable achievement.
"Give the guy a break here". He only used his short fingers.
Chainfire
(17,757 posts)But we know he stands convicted of a crime in the eyes of many of the people. Hopefully we will get to use the word properly in the future.
Johonny
(26,178 posts)sarisataka
(22,695 posts)It isn't surprising he wasn't convicted of that.
"What was he convicted of?"
NOTHING. It was not a criminal trial.
Lettuce Be
(2,355 posts)You find for the plaintiff and against the defendant (or the other way around) in a civil case. There is no guilt; there is no conviction. Taco-pnus is really stupid if he said that.
malaise
(296,106 posts)looks like semantics to me
Ms. Toad
(38,638 posts)since the definition of the crimes vary from state to state. What is rape in Ohio (the acts trump was found to have committeed) is not rape in NY.
But guilty v. liable is not semantics.
Guilty means (1) the state is the victim (Carroll would have been a witness, not thevictim) and (2) they can throw you in jail, put you on the sex offender registry, take away your right to vote.
Liable means you have to make the person you injured whole. (I.e. throw money at her.)
GoodRaisin
(10,922 posts)I dont want to be around a sexual predator or a rapist. Neither sounds very good to me. Nope.