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bigtree

(86,005 posts)
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:04 PM May 2023

Final number of judicial nominations impeded by Dianne Feinstein's absence: 0

Jennifer Bendery @jbendery 2h
NEW: Dianne Feinstein is heading back to D.C. today after a three-month absence, her office confirms.

She could be back at Senate votes as soon as tonight.


Matthew Chapman @fawfulfan 2h
So in other words: Dianne Feinstein will be back, and voting on judges in person, *long* before the Senate got through the backlog of already committee-approved judges awaiting a floor vote.

In other words, her absence will have had literally no impact on judges. None at all.











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Final number of judicial nominations impeded by Dianne Feinstein's absence: 0 (Original Post) bigtree May 2023 OP
Ro Khanna, et AL, should apologize to her mcar May 2023 #1
Well, let's see if she is "with it" or not RussBLib May 2023 #2
No. Khanna, et al, should apologize to her mcar May 2023 #3
Ro Khanna should apologize and many here on DU should do the same. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #24
Yep mcar May 2023 #39
+++ JohnSJ May 2023 #47
+100000000000000000000000000000000000 GuppyGal May 2023 #54
:) Hold breath. But it's about her senate seat of course, not as much her. Hortensis May 2023 #56
California Democrats, in the main, are very pragmatic and very liberal (not left-wing). Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #57
+1000. Our progressives who vote for Democratic to-do lists Hortensis May 2023 #64
What actually makes you and others say that? edisdead May 2023 #10
+1, the misinformation campaigns against good Democrats Nixie May 2023 #21
She's sharp enough to see who was using misinformation Nixie May 2023 #19
He's... 2naSalit May 2023 #4
Agreed mcar May 2023 #6
he's really not bigtree May 2023 #9
That is very disappointing. edisdead May 2023 #11
Ugh mcar May 2023 #20
Giant fail Nixie May 2023 #26
Yeah, shocking. Cha May 2023 #38
Hi Cha! Nixie May 2023 #49
Always Good to See You!💙 Cha May 2023 #51
Thanks, and you too, Cha! Nixie May 2023 #52
Khanna is easily one of my least favorite Democrats. BlueCheeseAgain May 2023 #32
+1 TY, BCA Cha May 2023 #37
How did it hurt our agenda? And the "three months" was actually 30 days. onenote May 2023 #44
Not surprised. Khanna is a political opportunist, and using republicans Thiel and Sax to help JohnSJ May 2023 #48
Yeah, but will they? hmmm Cha May 2023 #36
As we've seen here, they won't mcar May 2023 #40
My opinion has not changed. it's time to pass the torch. nt ecstatic May 2023 #58
You do understand that Rs will not approve her replacement on Judiciary, right? mcar May 2023 #59
I believe they'd have no choice if Newsome appoints a replacement ecstatic May 2023 #60
You are incorrect. 2 different things mcar May 2023 #61
Thanks for explaining. nt ecstatic May 2023 #62
You are welcome mcar May 2023 #63
Well Biden will veto a bad immigration bill that would have continued Trumps stupid wall...the Demsrule86 May 2023 #5
that makes a lie out of the claims that Sen. Feinstein allowed the bill to become law bigtree May 2023 #7
Too early to say for sure... but it looks likely FBaggins May 2023 #8
which ones? edisdead May 2023 #12
this from April bigtree May 2023 #13
Non of those were stalled because of her edisdead May 2023 #14
The five that had committee votes delayed two or three weeks ago FBaggins May 2023 #15
I presume the reason the linked article posted in another reply edisdead May 2023 #18
KnR Hekate May 2023 #16
Other important issues her absence endangered: TheProle May 2023 #17
I imagine some things were held up while Sen. Fetterman mcar May 2023 #22
Fetterman is back to work isn't he ? Fullduplexxx May 2023 #29
Yes, after several months off mcar May 2023 #41
That he is back to work Fullduplexxx May 2023 #42
And she is coming back to work mcar May 2023 #43
Good Fullduplexxx May 2023 #46
this is pure bullshit bigtree May 2023 #25
Meanwhile back in the real world onenote May 2023 #50
Is it churlish to ask for some unpacking of that claim? gratuitous May 2023 #23
lot's to unpack in your own claims bigtree May 2023 #27
Thank you gratuitous May 2023 #30
Actual facts: onenote May 2023 #45
When she gets back to the Judiciary Committee, my lead concerns are over. Tetrachloride May 2023 #28
Feinstein could have gotten her Shingrix shots years ago, as well. maxsolomon May 2023 #31
+++. I got mine before i traveled overseas. Tetrachloride May 2023 #34
lol bigtree May 2023 #35
I saw it as an allusion. maxsolomon May 2023 #55
she should have just told that shingles infection she had more pressing concerns bigtree May 2023 #33
When I heard this I thought of you.... #TrueBlue nt GuppyGal May 2023 #53
 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
24. Ro Khanna should apologize and many here on DU should do the same.
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:57 PM
May 2023

The attacks on a very well-respected Democratic Senator on a forum whose supposed purpose is to "support Democrats" have been shameful and over-the-top.

Welcome back Sen. Feinstein!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
56. :) Hold breath. But it's about her senate seat of course, not as much her.
Wed May 10, 2023, 07:22 PM
May 2023

Most of the leaders of that tiny faction (6% of all/12% of Dems/leaners -- anti-progressive left not included) have probably been having wet dreams for years, females included, about somehow snatching the golden ring of a U.S. senate seat away from the giant liberal Democratic mainstream-plus-other-Californians who prefer their senator farther right than Democrats want.

Of course things get tense as this heads toward climax, anxious for weaknesses to exploit to victory. Feinstein's illness itself falls in that category.

That said, this is DU and I agree with you. But it must be hard.

Welcome back to DC to the Senator.



 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
57. California Democrats, in the main, are very pragmatic and very liberal (not left-wing).
Wed May 10, 2023, 07:30 PM
May 2023

We like politicians who are progressives in the actual meaning of the word: People who help advance positive changes.

Feinstein is far more progressive than those who hound her from the extremes.

Her record of accomplishments is vast. She makes those with other agendas look bad, so out come the long knives. It won't work here in CA.

We go for work horses over show horses, and populism doesn't fly here.



Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
64. +1000. Our progressives who vote for Democratic to-do lists
Wed May 10, 2023, 08:50 PM
May 2023

are the real thing, both mainstream and...more aspiring. You called it so well. Liberal Democrats are positive and goal directed, believers in using the power of government to advance society, and the relentlessly negative, ruthlessly destructive antagonisms of populism are antithetical in virtually every way. There can be no progressive achievements without an establishment to put to work producing them. Feinstein's record speaks for her.

Btw, for anyone interested here's Senator Feinstein's govtrack.us ideology score based on her 2022 voting record. I was looking at these for various people today.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/dianne_feinstein/300043

As for the various alt-left types who try to pass themselves as committed to progressivism to fool people into supporting them, but who have "other" anti-Democratic/anti-democratic agendas... Their own vaulting "great replacement" ambitions are for power they also always fail to achieve and aren't fit to handle if they did. Different breed of horse entirely, so to speak, not suitable for domestic use or breeding.

edisdead

(1,957 posts)
10. What actually makes you and others say that?
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:19 PM
May 2023

What exactly are you basing this demand that she show you that her acumen is intact?

I am pretty much fed up reading this garbage on this forum.

Nixie

(16,982 posts)
19. She's sharp enough to see who was using misinformation
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:47 PM
May 2023

to attack her in an obvious ploy to grab her senate seat.

2naSalit

(86,798 posts)
4. He's...
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:11 PM
May 2023

Working for Barbara Lee's campaign to replace her so I think he should cool his jets. I kind of liked him until he started in on that noise.

onenote

(42,768 posts)
44. How did it hurt our agenda? And the "three months" was actually 30 days.
Tue May 9, 2023, 09:00 PM
May 2023

She missed votes from February 27 through March 2, from March 6 through March 9, from March 14 through March 16, March 21 through March 23, March 27 through March 30, April 17 through April 20, April 25 through April 27, May 1 through May 4 and, finally, today (May 9). Those are the only days during her absence in which the Senate was in session.

JohnSJ

(92,416 posts)
48. Not surprised. Khanna is a political opportunist, and using republicans Thiel and Sax to help
Tue May 9, 2023, 10:59 PM
May 2023

those ambitions fits right into his personality

Cha

(297,693 posts)
36. Yeah, but will they? hmmm
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:45 PM
May 2023

So grateful Sen Feinstein is coming back to the Senate.. That's the outcome I was hoping FOR

mcar

(42,376 posts)
59. You do understand that Rs will not approve her replacement on Judiciary, right?
Wed May 10, 2023, 07:50 PM
May 2023

Judiciary is one of those committees that require the whole Senate to approve a member. Do you really think that Moscow Mitch, et al, will approve a new member to that committee?

mcar

(42,376 posts)
61. You are incorrect. 2 different things
Wed May 10, 2023, 08:09 PM
May 2023

If DiFi retires, Newsome appoints a replacement Senator. All good.

The Judiciary then has an opening. A D Senator would be put forward to fill that opening (not necessarily DiFi's replacement).

The full senate has to approve that person to fill the Judiciary open seat.

Rs would filibuster. The Judiciary would remain 10-10.

Demsrule86

(68,691 posts)
5. Well Biden will veto a bad immigration bill that would have continued Trumps stupid wall...the
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:11 PM
May 2023

GOP has managed to get some shit through the Senate because of her absence.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
7. that makes a lie out of the claims that Sen. Feinstein allowed the bill to become law
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:17 PM
May 2023

...she no more allowed that with her absence than ANY other instance where republican legislation that squeaked through ran aground at the WH door.

The drama behind that sophistry should be embarassing to those who've lathered themselves in it.

FBaggins

(26,760 posts)
8. Too early to say for sure... but it looks likely
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:17 PM
May 2023

A handful of nominees will have been delayed for a couple weeks in committee… but that wouldn’t stall final confirmation since there’s a backlog on the floor

FBaggins

(26,760 posts)
15. The five that had committee votes delayed two or three weeks ago
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:28 PM
May 2023

They were up for a vote and the chairman had to hold them because she wasn’t there.

No real impact on final confirmation date if she’s really back… because they wouldn’t have received a floor vote for some time

edisdead

(1,957 posts)
18. I presume the reason the linked article posted in another reply
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:38 PM
May 2023

I presume the reason the linked article posted in another reply used the word “amid” instead of “because” is because it is a crafty way to spin a bullshit talking point.

We are mow onto foggy possibilities if the would have been brought up to vote in committee knowing that they likely wouldn’t have received a full vote anyway….


This whole thing is such absolute garbage. It is wordsmithing a right wing talking poibt being played out here. Unreal.

TheProle

(2,198 posts)
17. Other important issues her absence endangered:
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:34 PM
May 2023

This is from a couple of weeks ago, but it illuminates other areas that her ongoing absence impacted:

Ref: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/feinsteins-absence-complicates-democrats-path-to-5-biden-goals

Debt Limit

Congress is facing a deadline in the coming months to either raise or suspend the federal government’s borrowing limit — or risk severe economic repercussions with an unprecedented federal default.

“Right now she says she’s going to return, let’s make sure that happens,” Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) told ABC this week. “And it sure better happen before the debt-ceiling vote.”


Cabinet Confirmation

Democrats need to muster every vote they have to confirm Julie Su as Labor secretary to replace Marty Walsh. She has been facing fierce Republican and business opposition as moderate senators have been hesitant to endorse her.


Beating Back GOP Resolutions

Republicans have teed up over half a dozen measures overturning Biden administration regulations. They only require a simple majority to pass thanks to expedited procedures in the Congressional Review Act (CRA).

That means Democrats may face tight margins to halt measures that would force a Biden veto.

That’s most likely to happen on more partisan measures, like those blocking Biden from forgiving publicly-held student loans (H. J. Res. 45/S. J. Res. 22), implementing trucking emission standards (H. J. Res. 53/S. J. Res. 11), limiting qualifications barring undocumented immigrants that would designate them as “inadmissible” (S. J. Res. 18), and defining firearm stabilizing braces (H. J. Res. 44/S. J. Res. 20).


Thomas Ethics

A possible push by Judiciary Committee Democrats to subpoena Justice Clarence Thomas over recent ethics concerns is stalled with Feinstein out.

Judiciary Democrats met earlier this week and discussed their options. Republicans would almost assuredly vote in lockstep against a subpoena, and Feinstein’s absence would stall the vote, 10-10.


Appropriations

Feinstein as a senior appropriator would play a key role in government funding ahead of the Sept. 30 deadline.

Already, the Appropriations Committee has decided another Democrat will fill in as chair of her Energy and Water Development Subcommittee when it convenes for hearings, including one potentially next week. That’s a typical custom, usually when chairmen temporarily step out of an ongoing committee meeting.

But Democrats may need a full complement of committee members on hand when it comes to marking up those spending bills, which can be advanced to the floor with a simple majority. Spending bills markups are expected in late May, although in recent years those have not always occurred.

mcar

(42,376 posts)
22. I imagine some things were held up while Sen. Fetterman
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:51 PM
May 2023

was receiving medical treatment. Odd, isn't it, that only the woman gets held to the "she should resign" standard?

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
25. this is pure bullshit
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:05 PM
May 2023

...none of that was actually imperiled, because the Senator is returning. The drama has been proven false.

I get that some of her critics, who either couldn't find the courage or the political sense to keep from demanding one of their own party's senior senators resign on the hilariously absurd prospect republicans would then seat a more progressive appointee on the committee, will certainly want to continue the farce to save face.

But they can't credibly continue point to things which never actually happened - bills which never became law and nominations that had zero chance of leapfrogging the backlog already on the floor.

That's why I believe we saw the flurry of claims the Senator was mentally impaired, to buttress against the certainty she would return.

Senate's business isn't static, it's a nebulous exercise in party politics, both internal and opposition. There are myriad more reasons for the state of legislation, and more threats to passage than the temporary absence of one Senator.

The only way to sustain this sophistry is this "what if" absurdity. But, woulda, shoulda, coulda is a hollow and disingenuous argument in the face of Senator Feinstein's return.

onenote

(42,768 posts)
50. Meanwhile back in the real world
Tue May 9, 2023, 11:49 PM
May 2023

Debt Limit --- Have I missed something? Has there been a vote in the Senate on the Debt limit? Did Biden withdraw his threat to veto the Republican debt limit bill if it somehow is approved by the Senate?

Cabinet Confirmation -- Julie Su's nomination isn't in trouble because Feinstein has been absent. It's in trouble because several Senators (Kelly, Tester, Manchin, and Sinema) have expressed qualms about confirming her.

GOP Resolutions - Seven Congressional Review Act resolutions have passed the Senate. In six of the seven the margin was such that Feinstein's vote wouldn't have changed the outcome. In one instance, it would have resulted in a tie, but President Biden already has said he would veto that resolution if and when the House votes on it, just as he has vetoed two other resolutions and has threatened to veto others. So in the real world, Feinstein's absence hasn't resulted in any Congressional Review Act resolution becoming law.

Thomas Ethics -- It is far from clear that even with Feinstein, the Judiciary Committee will have the stomach to subpoena Thomas. Since she's supposed to be back tomorrow, we will see if that's the case soon enough.

Appropriations -- As noted, the Approps bills aren't scheduled to be marked up for several weeks, at earliest. So at this point in time, Feinstein's absence has not held them up.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
23. Is it churlish to ask for some unpacking of that claim?
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:53 PM
May 2023

After all, Durbin didn't have any votes on judicial nominees because a tie vote in committee meant the nominee lost. There were a handful of nominees who attracted Republican support, but there were quite a number of nominees who weren't put to a committee vote because the vote would have been tied. Were those nominations "impeded"? I'd say yes. Was it due "solely" to Feinstein's absence? How about "mostly"? The use of "solely" in ringwiss's tweet seems calculated to me.

But of the nominees that were lined up for consideration, there simply isn't time on the Senate's calendar to go through the list, and Feinstein's prolonged absence is the major contributing factor for why those nominees didn't get a committee hearing and vote. Another major factor has been Durbin's slavish fealty to blue slips and Senate decorum when the the Republicans are conducting themselves in the civilized manner of the boys in Lord of the Flies.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
27. lot's to unpack in your own claims
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:14 PM
May 2023

...I'd prefer the Senator speak for herself on this:


Feinstein on Status of Judicial Confirmations
May 04 2023

Washington—Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) today released the following statement on the current status of judicial confirmations during her absence from the Senate while she recovers from shingles:

“The Senate continues to swiftly confirm highly qualified individuals to the federal judiciary, including seven more judicial nominees who were confirmed this week. There has been no slowdown.

“This includes the confirmation of Judge Wesley Hsu to the Central District of California. He will make an outstanding jurist and I’m proud to see him join the federal bench.

“While the Senate Judiciary Committee has advanced eight strong nominees during my absence, I’m disappointed that Republicans on the committee are blocking a few from moving forward. I’m confident that when I return to the Senate, we will be able to move the remaining qualified nominees out of committee quickly and to the Senate floor for a vote.”

Background

Click HERE to view the status of every federal district or circuit court nominee in the Senate during Senator Feinstein’s absence.

Claim:
Senator Feinstein’s absence has brought the judicial confirmation process to a standstill.

Fact: The Senate Judiciary Committee continues to hold hearings on nominees and advance them out of committee, and the Senate continues to confirm judicial nominees on the floor.

Claim: The Senate is unable to confirm any judicial nominees because of Senator Feinstein’s absence.

Fact: The Senate has confirmed 21 district and circuit court nominees during Senator Feinstein’s absence, including seven this week.

Democrats maintain a 50-49 majority on the floor and are able to continue confirming judges with or without bipartisan support. During the last Congress, the Senate confirmed 97 judges while the Senate was split 50-50 between Democrats and Republicans.

Claim: The Senate Judiciary Committee is deadlocked and unable to advance any judicial nominees to the floor without Senator Feinstein.

Fact: The committee has advanced eight district and circuit court nominees during Senator Feinstein’s absence.

Claim: There is a large backlog of nominees who are unable to advance out of the Senate Judiciary Committee due to Senator Feinstein’s absence.

Fact: Only four district or circuit court nominees are currently eligible for a vote in committee.

Three more nominees received a hearing last month but won’t be eligible for a committee vote until next week.

The remaining nine nominees pending in the committee have not received a hearing yet and won’t be eligible for a committee vote until mid- to late-June at the earliest depending on when their confirmation hearing is scheduled.

Senator Feinstein’s absence does not prevent the committee from holding a hearing on any nominees.

Claim: Judicial nominees are not moving to the floor fast enough.

Fact: There are 19 district and circuit court nominees waiting for a vote on the floor, compared to just four nominees waiting to advance out of committee.

If the Senate did nothing but confirm judicial nominees, it would likely take at least three weeks of floor time to confirm all of the judicial nominees currently pending on the floor.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
30. Thank you
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:23 PM
May 2023

I'll take a look at that, but my original response was to the tweet in the original post, which claims that "The final number of judicial nominations whose confirmation was impeded solely by Dianne Feinstein’s absence: 0." I'm asking what the tweeter Ringwiss means by "impeded" and "solely" by Feinstein's absence.

onenote

(42,768 posts)
45. Actual facts:
Tue May 9, 2023, 09:18 PM
May 2023

Twenty one nominees confirmed by the Senate during her absence. Hearings conducted on five nominees during her absence. (If you were familiar with committee practice you would know that hearings often are conducted with a bare minimum of members present -- In fact Durbin missed one of the hearing sessions during Feinstein's absence ). Feinstein was present and voting on February 16, but Durbin pulled all of the nominees that were on the Committee agenda that day. Eight judges were advanced by the Committee despite Feinstein's absence.

The major contributing factor to judges not being confirmed is that Schumer hasn't brought 19 nominations that have been approved by the Committee to the floor for a vote even though the Democrats have a majority without Feinstein's vote. A further contributing factor is that there are 40 vacancies for which President Biden hasn't nominated anyone. Of the 16 nominees that haven't been acted on by the Committee, four were nominated last week and haven't had a hearing yet, a few others were nominated in March or April and are waiting for a hearing. There are a few that have been held up by blue slip objections from Republicans. And there are a couple that have been held up because there are objections from Democrats (for example, Michael Delaney ).

There are seven nominees on the Committee agenda for Thursday. If, as has been reported, Feinstein is present for the meeting, it will be interesting to see whether all seven get votes and whether/when Schumer brings them to the floor.

Tetrachloride

(7,873 posts)
28. When she gets back to the Judiciary Committee, my lead concerns are over.
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:17 PM
May 2023

The Senate Dem leaders could have been more forthcoming.

Senator Feinstein could have been more forthcoming.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
31. Feinstein could have gotten her Shingrix shots years ago, as well.
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:37 PM
May 2023

As Christine Pelosi alludes to.

This entire affair was avoidable.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
35. lol
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:44 PM
May 2023

...that's not what Christine said or 'alluded to.'

She actually made a non-political compliment on the Senator's recovering health. But I suppose people will politicize anything, as her mother remarked earlier, 'for some political motive.'

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
55. I saw it as an allusion.
Wed May 10, 2023, 11:27 AM
May 2023

You don't. To each their own.

Did Feinstein get her Shingrix series? I doubt we'll ever learn.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
33. she should have just told that shingles infection she had more pressing concerns
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:38 PM
May 2023

...than the risk of reinfection, as well as the contagion possibility.

I daresay, her critics are responsible for their own furthering of the gaslighting and fearmongering from Politico and others who piled on than the recovering Senator.

I do agree that Durbin could have been more forthcoming that his own acceptance of republican blue slips will have been more of an actual hinderance to the advancement of nominees than Sen. Feinstein's temporary absense.



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