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In It to Win It

(8,285 posts)
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:10 PM May 2023

A new Supreme Court case seeks to legalize assault weapons in all 50 states

Vox


The Supreme Court could hand down a decision any day now in National Association for Gun Rights v. City of Naperville, a case that could legalize assault weapons and high-capacity magazines in all 50 states.

The case challenges a Naperville, Illinois, ordinance and a similar Illinois state law, both of which ban assault weapons, which the state law defines to include certain semiautomatic rifles such as AR-15s and AK-47s. Additionally, the state law prohibits the sale of a “large capacity ammunition feeding device,” which the statute defines as long gun magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition, or handgun magazines that hold more than 15 bullets.

The plaintiffs, which include a gun shop owner and a gun rights group, claim the two statutes violate the Second Amendment.

Should the Supreme Court accept that argument and overturn these laws, it would have sweeping implications for the entire country. That decision would need to be followed throughout the entire nation — which would most likely mean that neither any state nor the US Congress could ban assault rifles or high-capacity magazines.

And there is good reason to fear that this Court could, at the very least, decide to make semiautomatic assault rifles legal throughout the United States. In 2011, a federal appeals court upheld the District of Columbia’s ban on assault weapons — over the dissent of an up-and-coming right-wing judge named Brett Kavanaugh.



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A new Supreme Court case seeks to legalize assault weapons in all 50 states (Original Post) In It to Win It May 2023 OP
This can happen... WarGamer May 2023 #1
"Should the Supreme Court accept that argument and overturn these laws..." J_William_Ryan May 2023 #2
WTAF???? FirstLight May 2023 #3
Not really. Straw Man May 2023 #8
This decision will be MOMFUDSKI May 2023 #4
If this occurs, all forms of security for the USSC should be eliminated. Let them know how it in2herbs May 2023 #5
Bingo! Mme. Defarge May 2023 #6
At what point do the gun humpers feel like their weapon is lethal enough? Timeflyer May 2023 #7
This will not end well. Haggis 4 Breakfast May 2023 #9
Imagine an attack on the SCOTUS with all that weaponry, Historic NY May 2023 #10
I think all these guns and any that people don't want anymore should be piled in front of the notdarkyet May 2023 #11
Where do Blue states draw the line and tell the corrupt SCOTUS to FOAD? Celerity May 2023 #12
It's all in Heir Putins plan RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #13

WarGamer

(12,484 posts)
1. This can happen...
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:12 PM
May 2023

See California.

SACRAMENTO (KGO) -- As early as this week, a federal judge could once again rule to overturn California's longstanding ban on assault weapons.

The ruling -- which would come from Judge Roger Benitez -- is believed to be imminent, according to Kostas Moros, a lawyer representing the California Rifle and Pistol Association. Moros said the final response briefs in the cases are due on Tuesday and Benitez could rule any time after that.

Advocates on both sides of the gun debate issue say they expect Benitez, who is known for ruling against California's gun control laws, will decide to strike down the three-decades long law.

J_William_Ryan

(1,757 posts)
2. "Should the Supreme Court accept that argument and overturn these laws..."
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:19 PM
May 2023

Which is will.

It would also result in an interesting unintended consequence for Republicans similar to Roe – in that Republicans won’t be about to lie about guns being ‘banned’ and ‘confiscated.’

Republicans use lies about guns being ‘banned’ as a way to keep the base frightened, angry, and going to the polls.

Straw Man

(6,625 posts)
8. Not really.
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:36 PM
May 2023
This would be like carte-blanche for mass shootings eve more so than now

Given the porous boundaries between states, individual states' bans on certain types of guns are unenforceable, for the most part, and certainly are no deterrent to someone bent on mass murder.

MOMFUDSKI

(5,657 posts)
4. This decision will be
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:23 PM
May 2023

all about how big their balls are these days. They keep inviting more scrutiny and they really don't seem to be enjoying being in that ride in the blender. Go for it.

in2herbs

(2,947 posts)
5. If this occurs, all forms of security for the USSC should be eliminated. Let them know how it
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:28 PM
May 2023

is for them and their loved one's to be afraid of getting killed when they go out in public.

A year or so ago Congress allotted funds for extra USSC security. Congress can start right now with pulling that back.

Same goes for members of Congress.

Timeflyer

(2,003 posts)
7. At what point do the gun humpers feel like their weapon is lethal enough?
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:33 PM
May 2023

It's probably pointless to ask about the number of guns they'd like to possess.

Haggis 4 Breakfast

(1,454 posts)
9. This will not end well.
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:36 PM
May 2023

Here in WA state, our governor, Jay Inslee, just signed into law a ban on certain types of rifles and extended magazines. It had wide-spread, across the parties, support.

We have a very schizophrenic relationship with state soverignty here in this country. States have rights to pass laws that THEIR citizens vote for or support until SCOTUS comes along and decides that we don't.

At this point, I have lost faith in SCOTUS's legitimacy and ability to rule fairly. No doubt out AG, Rob Ferguson, another good guy, is reading this closely.

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
10. Imagine an attack on the SCOTUS with all that weaponry,
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:37 PM
May 2023

they want to inflict it on the rest of the country, they should get into the victim game,.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
11. I think all these guns and any that people don't want anymore should be piled in front of the
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:58 PM
May 2023

SC lawn, as a memorial to the hundreds lost to gun violence. Give it up.

Celerity

(43,532 posts)
12. Where do Blue states draw the line and tell the corrupt SCOTUS to FOAD?
Tue May 9, 2023, 07:59 PM
May 2023

I know for sure some will if SCOTUS goes full foetal personhood.

What if they strike down basically all major Blue state gun laws enacted in the past 20 or so years other than, say, you must be 18yo to buy (or even 16)??

Remember, SCOTUS's power of judicial review is NOT in the Constitution, Marshall invented it with

Marbury v Madison
.

The SCOTUS is NOT a national suicide pact. No part of the Constitution is.

There damn well likely will come a point when the Blue States rebel or, if not, they basically are accepting that the nation has now been fully turned over (or at least set well upon the path to being) to minoritarian christofash rule.
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